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December 21, 2007, 4:36 pm PST

12/19 Parents’ Ultimate Test: Dealing with Autism

Quote From: mom1979

I can't believe that you think we don't want to be parents to out children with autism.  It is very obvious that you have never tried to raise a child with autism.  WE DO NOT EXPECT THE WORLD TO SERVE US!!!!  What we need is people like you to understand what we go through on a daily basis.  Shame on you for putting us parents down for something you do not understand!!!!!

Maybe you don't expect the world to serve you, and your child. Then you're in the minority. Shame on you, for not realizing that you don't need to be a parent to know about parenting. As well as assuming because I never raised a child with Autism, I don't understand.

 

Let me see, are you searching for a cure for your child's Autism? If you are why is that? I mean, if you supposedly want to a parent to a child with Autism. Why would you try to fix that? Why would other parents try to fix their children with Autism? It's not about a cure, Autism isn't a disease, it's a different way of seeing the world. Why are there so many supposed parents who want to be parents to children with Autism, trying to cure them? To end their suffering, or their own? Do they realize they're most likely doing more harm than good, by trying to force their child as a round peg into their square hole?

 

So explain to me then, where am I wrong in thinking parents don't want their child to be Autistic?

 
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December 22, 2007, 11:26 pm PST

12/19 Parents’ Ultimate Test: Dealing with Autism

Quote From: fromthesquare

I have a teenage son who has Asperger's Syndrome too.  He is very well liked and his different- ness is a part of what makes him special to his friends and those who love him.  I am glad that you wrote in on these boards.  It is good to hear from those who are living with this.  You are very articulate and I imagine that your parents are proud of you.  Best of luck to you.
Thanks alot!
 
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December 22, 2007, 11:31 pm PST

12/19 Parents’ Ultimate Test: Dealing with Autism

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The first of November of 2007 I received a call from my son who has moderate Autism that he was involved in a incident in school.  There was a lot of blood I drove like mad to the school and his mouth was nothing but blood, gushing out.  Some teeth were gone and some were hanging out and he was screaming.  I pushed teeth back in his mouth the permanent teeth and stopped the bleeding the best I could.  Stood right there and called his dentist, and got him right away.  They told me that he would need surgery but caused more problems for George is six years old well aware of things.  51 inches tall and weighs 68 pounds and extremely strong.  It took six of us to hold him done to take x-rays, but could not get a good one.  So we just held him down while the dentist pulled out the broken teeth that were still in his mouth that could cause damage to him.  We found a surgeon by our OT therapist that did major surgeries that offered his services for free, for our insurance would not pay to help our son.  My son has been through a lot and this has set him backwards in a lot of ways.  He is back to sucking his thumb and putting his hand down my blouse like he did when I nursed him.  Needs me a lot more and was so more independent of me, Cries when I take him to school now, before hand he was standing at the door saying come on mom lets go.  was the first in the van.  Loves school straight A's in spelling and math and has a following of friends.  Language is not good and can't tell anything except this bad kid kicked me and hurt me.  The school won't tell me who did it and this is not the firs time he has been hurt.  We have had staples in the back of the head, bruised sprains.  George is not a clumsy child can climb and tree in nothing flat and can run in nothing flat and walk over river rock to a shore without falling.  Very aware of his body and where it is just not his surroundings.  Now what do we do?  I have fought for everything for my son, everything and have gotten it.  Now how do you fight this one?
Why aren't there shows about these sadistic bullies? They are the ones who really need to be cured.
 
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December 22, 2007, 11:54 pm PST

12/19 Parents’ Ultimate Test: Dealing with Autism

Quote From: sisterchick

Thank you!  I would be second in line.  There is no cure. Period.  Autism seems to be the hot topic for holly wood to talk about nowdays.  It was there long before the media turned it into a circus.  I'm all for awareness but they never , and I mean never, show what life is REALLY like.  They only show snipets.  Those snipets are either really bad or of some kid whose mom "has found a cure".  Never about those hundreds of adults living with autism and doing quite well.  My son is 18.  I've never believed in the vacinnation theory.  I was kind of a "tardy" mom and didn't have my son vacinnated "on time".  His vaccinations don't even begin to coincide with the onset of his symptoms.  I wanted them to so I could have something to blame.  But they just didn't.  It's genetic.  And we've been through it all too.  I finally just learned to accept it and go on with life.  We are all happier now, my husband, my other children , and my son with autism.  And some of you will never believe this, but I am so very blessed that God chose me to be the mother of a child with autism.  It has changed my life.  For the better.  15 years ago, I wouldn't have said that.  But I'm saying it now!!!!Thank you, Jesus!!!!!

 

Lori

I agree. It seems to be just the latest issue parents can martyr themselves over. Talk about how they suffer so much having a child with Autism, while they let their child suffer. Or worse, force dangerous "cures" on them like Chelation therapy, which has been known to severly malnutrition people. All in hopes to get rid of supposed bad metals, that might not even be there in the first place.

 

Alot of people I talk to on the Asperger's Syndrome bulliten boards, I have Asperger's Syndrome. They say people like to only see Autistic/ Aspie children, they don't want to hear about them as adults. It's like once someone who's Autistic or who has Asperger's Syndrome become an adult, they don't exsist anymore. There is no support for them.

 

In order for there to be shows about Autistic children being ok, there needs to be a change in our society. From parents who cry out, "YOU'RE NOT A PARENT, SO YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING!" To parents who say, "You don't know how HARRRRDDDD it is, how much I SUFFER!" They don't say this out loud, but they certainly speak in a way that states these feelings.

 

We need to start being a society that hold parents up as being responsible as parents. We need to stop feeding what these martyr parents what to hear to them. They have to realize what is important is their child. It's too much for them? Perhaps they shouldn't have been parents then. Don't want to have to hear that? Too bad. While you're going off whinging about how you can't have your little social life anymore, or how you have to spend 24/7 taking care of an Autistic child instead of doing what YOU want to do. Your child is suffering.

 

The answer isn't to cure them so they can be more self-sufficent, so you can continue with your fantasy of being a parent and having time to do things for yourself, you need to be a better parent. That is the answer. There should be no more of these pity party for parents who didn't realize what they were getting themselves into. Nobody seems to take having a child seriously anymore. It seems when people have children who are "imperfect", they just see it as an excuse to whine about it to anyone within ear-shot instead of doing something about it.

 

Like the woman on the show, her son did say horrific things to her. However, it's very immature to go on a show and cry over something her child said, when he might not even be able to control saying it. How about talking about helping your child, going to a psychatrist? Doing something. I'm sorry, taking things personally like that from a child who clearly is sick and doesn't realize they're being harmful, is like a over-sensitive child who takes everything personally. The world doesn't revolve around her, she needs to get help for her son. Not go on Dr. Phil and cry cause she didn't realize she'd have to put in extra effort when she had children. Nothing will be accomplished until she realizes her son needs help, and that her wasting time feeling sorry for HERSELF, only is a hinderance to his healing.

 

You know, maybe I'm nuts. I think it's ok to say you know what, maybe I wouldn't be fit to be a parent. Ok, maybe handling children would be overwhelming for me. Fine, it isn't imperative that you grow up and have children. Perhaps if more people had this view, there would be less children suffering a life in a house where the focus isn't on them, because their parents didn't consider the responsibility of having them.

 

Maybe there would be more Autistic children, being able to be born to parents who would truely love them and take their time to help them, rather than sit and stew in their own greif over not having the perfect child whom they could leave to take care of themselves at home, while they went off having a life of their own. It seems people really don't understand the concept of, your children are your life, these days.

 

I know I will be flamed for this message, I'm certain I'll get a bunch of  "You're not a parent, you don't knoooooowwwwww" responses. I know what becomes of children who are born to parents, who think raising them is a part-time job. This might not even be an issue, if we lived in a society that said if you're a parent your life should be dedicated to your children. Instead of treating all parents, like high schoolers with little to no sense of responsibility. People who can't tell wether they want to hold a job, or have their social life and go to the prom with their friends. When you have a child, you have to be prepared for anything. Shows like this one about Autism, just feed into the pity party, for parents who were surprised and disheartened, they weren't born a perfect child.

 

It's not about the parents, it's about the children. Parents, really you need to get over yourselves and focus on helping these Autistic children. Helping them, not trying to cure them, not trying to make them what YOU want from them. Accept them as THEY ARE, and work with them. Maybe you will have to spend the rest of your life taking care of them, maybe that's the hand you've been delt. If you are a real parent, you'd be thankful for the gift to be able to care for someone, who will have unconditional love for you. Instead of mourning the life you could've had if you didn't have children.

 
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January 3, 2008, 7:27 pm PST

The insulin withdrawal doesn't surprise me

It really isn't surprising, in a society where people who are obese deal daily with constant prejudice and harassment, that there will be people who will try anything to be thin. How about instead of seeing this as a trend, realize the source of this trend. Our society which attributes every disease to being overweight. A society that not only encourages, but celebrates making fun of those who are not thin. If you were a teenager looking for acceptance in today's schools, wouldn't you do anything to be thin?

 

There were people asked in a survey would you rather be fat or have Cancer, most people chose having Cancer over being fat. The problem is that our society is far too prejudiced towards people of size. This issue will only be solved, when we learn that body size is NOT a choice. It's a matter of GENETICS. We no longer prejudice based on skin color, when we learn not to be prejudiced over body size, this will stop.

 
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January 15, 2008, 3:45 pm PST

Ian of Fire's site

I went to the Ian of Fire's site, what doesn't trouble me is the language or even the girl who was supposedly pratically naked. I don't know, the music video is no longer on the site. There is alot of suicidal idealization on the site.

 

There's a picture of a guy and a girl standing in front of a bloody razor. There's also a image in the background of the page, of a guy about to shoot himself in the head, while cutting his girlfriend's throat. I don't think that's at all appropriate for school.

 

Also, maybe I'm dated, but what is with this Emo stuff? I mean, I was a Goth in high school, and there is alot of suicidal idealization in Goth music. I don't really know if it's a teen angst thing, I mean I found out I had depression after high school. You don't know who's going to that site. What answer would the band have for someone who saw your site and decided to kill themselves? What would they say to the parents of that child?

 

Suicide isn't a joke, and it's not something just to throw around like "Oooh I'm so angst-ridden and hate this world" You don't need to advocate killing one's self, to be counter-culture. If anything, it probaly would be counter-culture if you didn't advocate suicide.

 

I don't really know, when we have students who "fall through the cracks" who clearly have mental issues, as I had and don't get treatment. I mean, who's fault is that then? If the schools says, you're getting good grades therfore you can't be having problems. I lost 10 years of my life, because I went to a public school who couldn't even see someone who was a poster girl for being  Goth, and think "Hmm..I don't know, maybe they're depressed." Clearly, seeing as one of the girls on the 30 Reasons to Call It a Night site, is supposedly a straight A student. Grades are not a good measure of mental health.

 

I know that seemed off-topic, er, it probaly was. What I'm trying to say though, is that it's irresponsible to be a subsitute teacher, and give a link to a website advocating suicide. You don't know that person's situation, and especially being teens and unstable. Obviously, it would seem Ian is just looking to make money off of impressionable teens. Who cares, if it means he whores out his band while being a teacher at a school right? As I said above, and who cares if one of those teens do kill themselves. Oh, well it's just music, and it's not the band's responsibility to look after their fans right? Whatever. I think it's unfortunate for them they went on Dr. Phil. All the more people to go their site and go, "Haha! Look, another generic brood-band".

 
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January 21, 2008, 6:04 pm PST

This is going on in every school in our country

In every school, there are students being taught that being social is more important than learning. If you are not with the correct social group, your grades could even suffer. What's more important, teaching children how to be bullies and victims, or an education?
 
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January 21, 2008, 6:06 pm PST

01/22 Cojo: Back from the Brink

I just wanted to say, I think Cojo is really cute. Ummm....that is all.
 
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January 21, 2008, 6:08 pm PST

01/11 "My Big, Fat, Spoiled Family Member"

Cause we all know being fat corresponds directly with negative behaviours right? Just another idiotic way to bring fat prejudice into an issue that has nothing to do with being fat.
 
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January 22, 2008, 4:22 pm PST

01/21 Real Life Gossip Girls

Quote From: uofwmom

I am older and in medical school with a bunch of kids very similar to those in the show. If you're different in any way people, not just teens (the teens have to become adults but they don't have to change) draw you out & make fun of you. The school psychologist teaches Psychiatry & Ethics and it surprised me to discover that she is vehement that environment does not play a role in psychological disorders. It is this kind of thinking that allows people to continue "picking" on people and then blaming them for their disorders. So the people being picked on are to blame for their disorders not because environment initiated the "on" gene, but because they reacted to being  bullied and that's their fault. Wow!

I wonder why we don't look at people who do the bullying as the people with the real psychological illness instead of always blaming those "sensitive" psychologically ill people for the problems? Could be something to talk about Dr. Phil since bullies never take responsibility - they were just "clowning around" - having fun!  We're all supposed to just lighten up. I wonder if that's how Britney's kids will feel when they get older. Hmm, Maybe mom should have just lightened up! Not!!!! Maybe people should learn to have some humanity left in them, some empathy and compassion for others.


Good luck with the show.

Amen. I've been saying this for years. I mean, it's truly the bullies who show a sociopathic personality issue. It never made sense to me to blame the victims, and the let the "innocent" little sociopaths go on ahead to ruin someone else's self-esteem.
 

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