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November 4, 2005, 2:32 pm PST

Dr Phil did not get through to them

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I didn't catch what kind of doctor he is, but I would not want to put my life in the hands of someone that words too many shifts and probably can't concentrate on what they are doing. 

He could put a freeze on all the credit cards except one.  Since she has no income of her own, how would she be able to get more cards?  That would be one way to stop her. 

If my 16 yr old quit school, she wouldn't get another thing until she either went back or got her GED.  You can barely do anything with that now a days much less quitting school. 

She wants him home more, but how can he be there when he has to work all he can just to pay for her selfishness.  

I didn't see any signs of love between them at all. 

You summed it up so well. I would never go to a doctor who is overworked and it is SAD that he is an ER doctor.  

  

Somehow, I got the feeling that Dr Phil today acted very politically correct in his conversation. Either that or they just edited out the moments where he really laid it into the family. The wife/mother showed no remorse for what she is doing. It is as if she just can't wait to get off the show and go back to her habits. She is selfish with everything...'my children', 'my credit cards' my this my that' What on earth is she an alien from another world!!! Does she think at all!!!  

  

What is it about those selfish children can someone paint them a picture of what happens in the real world!!! Go to school, finish something you have started that will benefit you in the longterm. No one can take an education from you. You are young beautiful children don't throw it away. 

  

I could not CARELESS what has happened in the past NOTHING is worth sacrificing your soul, your husband, your children and your lifetime to pay for it.  

  

Get it together, find some peace in your life and just try to live. 

  

I don't know and unfortunately families like this pervades our society and and they do not add one iota of anything to the betterment of human kind....then again the one person who is trying to do his best at saving lives is being leeched on. WHAT AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION FOR ALL INVOLVED. 

  

BUT THERE IS HELP IF YOU REALLY WANT IT. 

 
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November 6, 2005, 12:14 pm PST

Blame, blame, blame,

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How is gets started 

  Lets be real, most women look for certain qualities in a mate and a physical or emotional attraction is only one  or two of the things we consider. We also want a mate that is successfully employed or at the least able to support us and a family. I suspect all three factors were evident in Bridgete's choice of Micheal. I suspect she spent many long hours on the home front while he finished med school and his internship. He chose to have an affair to reward her support and she reacted in an "over the top" fashion suited to his "crimes".  

    The trouble with being married to a workalcoholic is that someone must maintain the homefront, doing all theemotional and physical  work, while the other is focusing on the work and nothing else. That is where the term  workalcoholism comes from ....work is the only thing that matters. 

   This is a very common problem in marriage. This couple may have been picked cause they are the extreme example of how things can get out of control, when MONEY is the focus of a marriage. In this case he is focused only on making it and she only on spending it. Everything else gradually has faded into the background or is non existant.  

  This couple is so "trapped" by money oriented thinking, and are commmunicating ONLY through the money that there are no victims or perpetrators, unless you want to name money issues. Being the one, the only one, holding down the homefront and the long lonely hours and the stress is like being a single parent. If the only "perk" to being married is the ability to spend money  far too often desperate women, in an attempt to cope and fill the lonely, rejected, stressfilled hours will often turn to shopping.  It is a safe alternative to other counterproductive activities available to a woman wanting to honor her marriage vows.  

    Show me a woman that shops too much and I will show you a man that works or is away from home too much. Men drink and have affairs and a large number of  other wise intelligent and capable women shop. The stores are to capacity on weekends with lonely women, trying to find the "magic key" to get and keep their husbands attention.  

     This goes to the core of our primal instinces as men (goal chasers) and women (hunters/gathers) in addition to societies current  attitudes towards worship of the almighty dollar.  The more you make, the more you spend. This couple is an over the top example of how this kind of thinking can get totally out of control. Both are guilty of excess, and both have interpersonal issues at the core of the problem and how  and why it has gotten totally out of hand. 

   This couple is not as unique, as it seems due to the large amounts earned and spent. Lower the amounts and Bridgette and Micheal   have lots of company. Far too many men egotistically put work ahead of everything and use making money to justify the grossest sins on their families  who are trying to survive emotionally without Dad.  

  He is as guilty as she for the excesses/indiscreations  that are destroying this family. Lay off her for falling into the obvious trap his attitudes set. I suspect he worshipped money, made it the god in their family and she and her children are now guilty of following his "religion".  

   I believe that the man is entrusted with the leadership in the family as God would dictate, but this man chose to make MONEY his God, and they are all paying the price for this immature, poor judgement on the part of THEIR leader.  

That is all everybody wants to do. We are so use to it ourselves that even when we see foolish behavior in others we want to justify it for them ... we blame their family, their upbringing, their environment, the husband, the wife and the whole laundry. This is because the first thing we instinctually want to do is shift the responsibility onto someone or something else. LAZY R US!!! Arise and take responsibility for our actions we are man and woman enough to do it (whatever it is to each of us) let us become accountable!!!
 
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May 8, 2007, 2:02 pm PDT

Pathetically Selfish

Got home in time from school to catch today's show. Of all the days to see a show I chose today to watch a young woman so selfish destroy three lives. Within 7minutes of the show, that is the adjective I had to describe her SELFISH. I don't care how much in your head you feel confused. There is always the right thing to do.

 

I believe strongly in premarital counseling and this show has just endorsed this belief. It doesn't matter how much forever we see in someone else's eyes the baggage of our past comes quickly open after the vows, after the novelty of worn. I believe if she had given herself some premarital counseling and a year long engagement then things perhaps would have turned out differently.

 

In the meantime, she is utterly selfish, shows no remorse for the situation she is creating, has gotten use to Brent, an obviously wonderful sweet guy, tearing his hair out over her. She loves it, loves the control she has in her hands and Dr. Phil was right at some level she appears to find it INTOXICATING.

 

Get up and do the right thing WOMAN!! and if you can't do it within a given period of time I hope Brent knows that it will hurt like hell at first, but he was created to be happy and happiness he will eventually find again if he walks away and allows himself some counselling some fun times and find social support.

 

It's much easier than she thinks it is, she just doesn't want to lose control.

 
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May 8, 2007, 2:15 pm PDT

05/08 Torn Between Two Husbands

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I kinda am in the same situation but I'm not married. I totally understand how you "don't know" what you are going to do or if you can even change how you feel. It's very hard and I just want to let you know I understand how it feels.
Get premarital counseling and have a long engagement. Whatever you do step back and don't make it all about you and your emotions.
 

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