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December 22, 2005, 3:48 am PST

This is nothing new

   This is my first message on Dr. Phil's site so please excuse me if I am not following protocall.  I just wanted to say that I am almost 32 years old and I can remember playing this game when I was about 11 or twelve....20 years ago. I was a bit bigger than the other girls that I played with so I wasn't their favorite person to catch when passing out so I was not usually, if ever, the one being choked.  I remember a couple of friends passing out for 10, 20, even 30 minutes at a time and my friend's mom came in and we told her about the game. She was a young "fun mom" so we thought she'd think it was fun too and luckily she had enough sense to make us stop.  I'm not totally sure that my friend listened to her mom but I know that once the passing out time reached 30 plus minutes we got worried and stoped the game....I know I did at least.  I can't totally speak for the other girls since I was not around them all the time.  Hearing Dr. Phil makes me wonder if my friend's epilepsy and Lupus that she developed later in life could be related.  If that's crazy talk then, I'm sorry.  I just started watching the episode on this topic, paused the tv and came online to write since I had done the choking game so long ago but it seemed like there can be serious consiquences from choking that are unknown.  I hope the show has opened people's eyes about the appearent epidempic and will save some lives.
 
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December 22, 2005, 4:15 am PST

Nitrious Oxide

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Actually, many things kill brain cells - sunlight, orange juice and many other common things. Also, cells die on their own. The big problem with this kind of cell death is that is is caused by anoxia - oxygen deprivation. The reason there is a "high" to choking, huffing, dusting, etc. is anoxia. It causes the brain to try to compensate for the lack of oxygen and side effects of this are the spots, rush and other effects that the users seek.

So, it's not so much that brain cells are dying, it's HOW they are being killed during these activities. They literally  explode, hence the possibility of clots and strokes.
 
Also, did you know kids can use a whipped cream dispenser and those capsules of nitrous oxide that are used as a propellant for them? They suck on the dispenser nozzle and get the same effect as these other methods. Yes, it's the same gas as used in your dentist's office but it's not mixed with oxygen as it is there. Just an FYI....


  My sister's ex-husband got very addicted to Nitrous and she says (after researching it) that it actually changes your personality.  It's totally self inflicted brain damage.  Have you ever seen people addicted to huffing? Like on an episode of cops? They are totally crazy homeless people and never recover. The people on that episode anyway.  My sister's ex was super smart, a computer programmer, never *ever* at a loss for words and he started speaking less clearly, losing his train of thought, fumbling for the right thing to say. She says he's into things he would have made fun of before the addition. Like his sense of humor, hobbies, etc.  He's dating a sex worker now, someone we would have found gross before.  He's a totally different person.  He yelled at my sister, called her weak and stupid and worthless...stuff he would *never* do before he had the drug problem.  I'm rambling but I wanted to agree that Nitrous is a serious problem too.
 

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