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August 26, 2005, 12:03 pm PDT

08/18 'Fighting for My Children'

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 Well, if you contact any of the folks at the Intersex Society of North America, I think, no- I know  that they will probably disagree with you that they are a "medical disability."  Most of them resent having been operated on as babies to change their genitalia, as the operation can affect sexual pleasure as an adult.  In fact, they have lobbyists in Washington trying to make it illegal for doctors to change their body until they are of the age of informed consent.  Most surgeries performed on intersexed babies are not medical emergencies, only "social" emergencies, as defined by the attending physician, who is acting, knowingly or not, as a gender policeman.

I don't always agree with trans folks that we are born into the wrong body, either.  As a female to male person myself, I believe that God knew that I would be born with gender conflicts, and that He wanted me to go through all of this so that I would be more compassionate towards others.  I can do more for His kingdom when I've suffered and have come through it more submitted to His will!

Genderbend, I am glad you are changing the subject.  I know a handful or 2 or 3 of people with gender issues.  I have watched the Jerry Springer show a few times, but I am not a regular like I am to the Dr. Phil show.  I do think inspite of some far out guests, Jerry has some WISE things to say.   I personally think Gender issues are related to:  REJECTION and TRAGEDY (did I spell that wrong?)  and NOT GENETIC.  Again this is MY OPINION related to the ones who I have talked personally with or observed.   Most of these when you really talk to them they have come from very broken homes and deep hurts in relationships.  AND IF YOU ARE AROUND THEM WHEN THEY ARE REALLY DRUNK:  They start talking about someone who was very, very dear to them WHO DIED.
See if you notice this next time you are around someone like this who is really, really drunk and speaking the honest truth from their heart?
 
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August 29, 2005, 5:08 am PDT

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 I don't mean to be rude, but it is a litlle difficult following your train of thought with your writing style.

 Just to follow up, the Bible speaks of salvation "ONLY" in terms of whether one accepts Jesus Christ as personal Saviour, not whether somebody changes their body or not.  Read up!

I wasn't implying that it was God's ultimate will that I have gender conflicts, only that He has used it for good in my life in reaching out to others.  I will stand before my Maker with great expectation that He will say "Well done"!  Perhaps, if maybe you reached out with a little more compassion towards folks, God could use you in a mighty way.  Your passion is admirable, your harshness is not.  Even if transexuality was sin, per se, which I don't believe it is (at least not in my case), your attitude doesn't exactly encourage one to repent.  Are you saying that you are a Christian?  Only God can judge your heart, but if you are, please give me some "fruit of the Spirit", such as "KINDNESS".

Maybe we should just agree to disagree.  What do you think?
What does that have to do with that quote?  I don't think I have said anything mean toward you.  Please read back:  I have been sticking up for the underdogs.  ????????
 
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August 29, 2005, 5:26 am PDT

A baby

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 I don't mean to be rude, but it is a litlle difficult following your train of thought with your writing style.

 Just to follow up, the Bible speaks of salvation "ONLY" in terms of whether one accepts Jesus Christ as personal Saviour, not whether somebody changes their body or not.  Read up!

I wasn't implying that it was God's ultimate will that I have gender conflicts, only that He has used it for good in my life in reaching out to others.  I will stand before my Maker with great expectation that He will say "Well done"!  Perhaps, if maybe you reached out with a little more compassion towards folks, God could use you in a mighty way.  Your passion is admirable, your harshness is not.  Even if transexuality was sin, per se, which I don't believe it is (at least not in my case), your attitude doesn't exactly encourage one to repent.  Are you saying that you are a Christian?  Only God can judge your heart, but if you are, please give me some "fruit of the Spirit", such as "KINDNESS".

Maybe we should just agree to disagree.  What do you think?
I really think Linda should have a Baby.  I really don't mean it in a smart alec way.  I really think Linda should have another baby and that it would solve EVERYTHING. 
 
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August 29, 2005, 8:23 am PDT

08/18 'Fighting for My Children'

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That's a fair post, but Mrs. Millionaire chose to stay so that means she has to accept Mr. Millionaire for what he is.  Sadly Mr. Big Bucks must only be able to attract women with his wallet and maybe his wife is an older version of Marks.  But with the twins being so young and if she loves her husband and forgives him enough to stick around, she could and should love the twins.  But then again if she's a woman like Marks, it would stand to reason why you might think she should keep her man and throw the baby to the wolves at the mercy of a mother like Marks.  Here's what Mrs. Bucks should do.  Stand with her husband to get sole custody of the twins.  Then divorce him and take the kids away from both their cheating father and nude model mother.  That's what I'd do, take the kids from both of them.  But then again all three of these people might deserve each other.  The only real victims are these twins.
**laugh**  OK Jadaok, I will give Mr. Millionaire a little Compassion now:  MAYBE HE WAS GOING THRU MIDLIFE CRISIS!
 
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August 29, 2005, 5:24 pm PDT

Where you Live

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I am having difficulty understanding how she earns $22,000 a year and is able to support 4 kids and a $500.00 a month drug addiction.
I think it's WHERE YOU LIVE.  I live in a big city and it's kind of expensive, but alot of things you can buy that you don't need, but you buy anyway.  I go travel to this farm town in our state that is 2 hours outside the city and it doesn't even have a McDonalds.... You can buy a nice house in a good school system for $45,000 or less. And there's NO WHERE to spend your money:  NOT EVEN A WALMART.... 
 
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August 29, 2005, 6:35 pm PDT

Emotional Damage

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Look, many of us transgendered folks come from "normal" families.  Gender confilicts aren't just exclusively for trans people.  "EVERYONE" has issues with their gender identity in some respect.  If they didn't, why do we have wars between the sexes?  Many girls, who are anorexic, for example, when you get them to be honest in talk therapy, will tell you that they judge their "femininity" to the extreme.  A girl/woman who feels good about her gender and body doesn't "starve" herself to death.  Most of these girls jucge themselves "harshly", particularly their bodies. 

In my opinion, gender stereotypes are manmade and are very" harmful to most person's self esteem.  If parents and other authority figures in a child's life would just let that child be the personality God intended them to have, instead of "socializing" them into very harmful gender roles and expectations, perhaps transexuality would go away.  I don't believe that trans people are born into the wrong body, but that they are born into the wrong society!  I am treated so much differently as a man than I was a woman, but I have the same character and personality that I've always had.  Don't you think that being treated differently is soooo.....stupid, when I am the EXACT SAME PERSON, except for my looks?

OK OK OK.... but what I am saying is that I think it is related to damaged EMOTIONS more than anything else.  You say some come from NORMAL families.  BUT NORMAL?  You might have a family that looks perfect to the outside world, BUT when you watch the 24 hr 11/7 footage you see alot of the personalities that we see on this show who are NORMAL, but behind closed doors are CONTROLLING, or CRITICAL, or UNSUPPORTIVE.   

    

I had 2 very wonderful grandmothers in my life Who I can say loved me more anything.  No bully, No nothing can ever take from me the LOVE they gave me all the years. They MADE time for me ALL the time. And although they're gone now:  Their influence and Legacy still are with me.   

    

Now like I said when I talk to gender issue people, they say things like:  My dad always put me down or My mom always called me stupid.  or they complain of getting beatin' in bizarre ways. or THEY were never there. I think when you have a NORMAL so called family.... or a certain religious or public family they are worried about impressing others and what everyone thinks.  Their kids get scolded for not sitting up straight or petty things all the time.  They can't relax. or  being hurt by bizarre relationship details.  I mean this is a Hollywood society and you have to be really cute to be loved..... that is what society encourages.... unfortunately and not what is on the inside.  

    

It's hard because people see thru the eyes of how they are raised and JUDGE or BLAME other people when they haven't walked in the pain of their shoes or lack of them.  I don't know your story, but I do know the stories of some of those I know and it breaks my heart it really does.... that someone would have to endure some of the things they do in our world.  

 
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August 29, 2005, 10:24 pm PDT

IMAGE

IMAGE is who you want everyone else to think you are, but not necessarily actually who you really are.  For example, in real life I work 9-5 for the FBI.  Now in the evenings I drive an ice cream truck, but I accidentally bumped into this old guy while I was backing up.  I was eating a red, white and blue popsicle and wasn't looking in the rear view mirror or I would have seen this guy who was just trying to come up to the truck and buy a fudge sicle and he had just enough money to buy a fudge sicle, but the coins flew out of his hand in every direction.  And now he's in the hospital and if he dies I lose my Ice Cream truck license and I won't be able to drive my ice cream truck, but if he lives I get to keep my Ice Cream truck license so I am a little worried about it.  But to make up for it on the weekends I work as a bag and fry girl at McDonalds so I have been getting by.  But you see now that you know this I am a little embarassed and won't be able to show my face here in this discussion again because now my IMAGE has been tainted.  But there is a difference between IMAGE, WHAT YOU WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT YOU and WHO YOU REALLY ARE...... 
 
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August 31, 2005, 1:55 pm PDT

Scooby Doo

I like Scooby Doo.  Do you like Scooby Doo?
 
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August 31, 2005, 5:44 pm PDT

too many Animals

I love my sister, BUT I am glad I don't live with her BECAUSE she lives in the city in a suburb and has 10 animals living with her in her house.  She also has 2 toddlers.  She doesn't understand why her house is messy.  She doesn't think it has anything to do with the animals.  If you met her in public you would not guess this about her.  I have threatened to take pictures and send them to the Dr. Phil show.  She blames her husband for their messy house, but he wants to get rid of all of the animals.  You name it:  dogs, hamsters, rats, rabbits etc.  She has some of each!
 
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September 1, 2005, 10:14 am PDT

Scooby Doo

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Hi there i love scooby Doo.LOL  

I bet Bridgetts twins love Scooby Doo too and would rather us all be talking about Scooby Doo than on and on about their parents past mistakes.....   

    

101160  ANY SCOOBY DOO CARTOON PICS TO POST?   

 

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