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October 16, 2005, 7:08 pm PDT

09/28 Overmedicating America: The Cruise Controversy

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By the way when I read Talking Back to Prozac and The Antidepressant Fact Book by Peter Breggin, I learned that NIMH is essentially a pro-drug organization. They have no interest in studies that would determine the long-term effects of drugs on the brain, which is why my neuroscientist friend probably doesn't want to take the time to do that study when I asked if she would. Because it probably woulnd't be publishable or fundable. 

I am very suspicious of aritcles written by anyone who works for NIMH or the FDA. There is bound to be huge bias involved when your life is devoted to studying the wonders of drugs. I also recently heard that the FDA head resigned, I never knew the details but I am extrememly curious why he or she did resign. The news story that talked about it was short but it said, "So and so resigned today, SO and so was the head of the FDA and saw it through many recent controversies." 

  

So you are basically calling the NIMH liars and they work for drug companies?? 

  

OK 

  

 I have to say...thank you for giving me a GOOD laugh today...a drug rep!!! me!!! 

Nope, sorry. I am a fulltime mom, student, girlfriend, friend, animal caretaker, and homemaker extraordinaire.  

  

While I would love to debate this with you extensively, it's pointless.  

We are never going to agree on this issue.  

  

I will say this again................. 

Life is much better with the chemicals that balance my brain.  

  

 
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October 16, 2005, 7:27 pm PDT

09/28 Overmedicating America: The Cruise Controversy

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Were any of these drugs you listed used as prescribed?  I am not sure myself if the Columbine boys were taking their meds as prescribed. I think only they know. They may have went off them and had the horrible side effects that you talk about. They may have been taking too low a dose or for that matter to high a dose. 

  

I  know for myself I have not felt better in the last few weeks as I do now and I strongly believe if people take their medications as prescribed and the right med and/or combo they will be greatly helped. 

  

also I know for a fact that MOST bipolar people tend to spiral into mania and then a crushing depressive cycle because they get the false sense that the medication has cured them and they stop taking it.  

  

Read An Unquiet Mind by Kay Redfield jamison 

  

She talks about her use use of Lithium and what happened everytime she stopped taking it and she also talks about the factthat Lithium is a MUST for her to be alive. 

  

Very good book. And she is highly respected. She is a psychiatry Professor at John Hopkins School of Medicine. 

I know that if I ever need a med change,  I will try the lithium. Since it is one of the oldest meds, there is a lot more data and research on long term effects and such.   

  

I wish that my mom had gotten me the help that I needed when this crap first started. I had to get really violent before I noticed it myself. The only thing that is different about me is that I have never attempted suicide. I have never been able to think that way, not even in my wildest moments. 

  

I am done with this board.  I can't help but take it personally. It may be weird or odd to some people, but for someone like me,  it is very unsettling to even think about life as I once knew it.  

  

TOODLES 

 
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October 16, 2005, 8:02 pm PDT

HI TAMMY

Good to see ya on here. Actually, I'm glad you topped by, as I wanted to tell you that I'm not going to the b/f or other board. Total monopolization if ya catch my drift. If not take a trip. 

  

Night 

  

Jen 

 
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October 17, 2005, 5:36 am PDT

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I have several situations that is bothering me and don't know how to handle it anymore. My hubby is a social drinker he calls it.  He gets drunk every weekend and when he drinks to much he makes rude remarks, goes on and on about his past about his rich friends or his past girlfriends.  He drunks drive with me and my son in the car which I put a stop to it the last time it happen.  He repeats things until I get mad.  And when he sober he tells me to ignore him when he drinks.  Well how in the hell do you ignore him when you have an outspoken personalilty.  And being bp to boot? 

And if I explain the problem he just tells me it's in the past just forget it.  Or if I make a rude remark he tells me I mean.  And I tell him no just getting you back fromt he other nite.  Then I have to listen to a friend of mine cry her tears out about a man who don't give a damn about her.  He's worse he's a drinker and a drug user. My exhusband, his wife is a drug user too and wants to cause trouble for my family.  I am at my wits end about the whole situation.  Does anybody thinks I need counseling cuz I am about to blow up at everybody around me. Accept my son.  Is this normal or do they have the prob not me. 

Anybody have any comments or advice are welcome to help me in anyway. 

Hello and boy did you come to the right place! 

  

I do know how you feel. Unfortunately, I have many years of experience with an alcoholic father, stepfather, a husband, and a boyfriend.....and my 2nd husband was a drug abuser. ( i divorced both hubby's). 

  

For me, I can not stand to be around people that have been drinking. I'm not talking about a "social drinker", which to me consists of a few drinks, a few times a year. I give you kuddos for putting up with that. 

  

I would say counceling is a plus for you, because you can express exactly how you feel with no explanantion. No backlash will become of it. It is helpful if therepy teaches you coping skills. 

  

As far as your question, I would definitely say that it is not your problem,or your fault.  

  

I wish that I had more to offer you. 

  

Jen 

 
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October 17, 2005, 5:40 am PDT

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     This is my first message on a message board.  I'm feeling anxiety.  (This is a fairly common emotion for me.)  I was diagonosed as Bi-Polar Type 2 in June.  I've been on meds for a few days now.  I haven't stopped crying yet.  My loved ones try to be supportive, but don't know how to help.  And I haven't figured how they can help me either.  More than anything, I just want to feel peace.  I'm terrified of getting my hopes up that this medication will work and being suicidal if, for some reason, it doesn't. 

     Why is it easy for me to "fix" other people, yet I'm unable to "fix" myself?  Is this the high price of being a high functioning manic-depressive?  I feel so alone.  And writing this, I feel like a crybaby. 

First of all welcome! 

  

Secondly, you are NOT a crybaby.  

  

What meds were you given? I'm sure you know that it takes a week or two to get things running in your system. 

  

I just wanted to let you know that you are not alone! 

  

Jen 

  

 
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October 23, 2005, 7:16 am PDT

Tammy

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When Emily started experiencing the sever swings in mood the doctors put her on Depakote which is a mood stablizer. She is not taking this anymore and has been switched to Lamictal, which is also a mood stablizer but does not have the same risks with theliver as depakote.  

  

She is also on a small dose of Risperdal, which is an antipsychotic. The risperdal was added when she got very agressive and was hallucinating.  

  

She also takes 60 mg of Allegra for allergies and 300mg day of zantac for over production of acid which is caused by stress. The doctor is using this medication to prevent her from forming an ulcer.  

  

  

The risperdal was double what she is taking now (she is currently taking 0.5 mg). once her symptoms subsided and she stablized I aksed that this medication be reduced. It was my intention of stopping this altogether but the aggression is still out of control with myself and my 3 year old (choking and hitting her when she gets frustrated) so at this time the doctor does not feel comfortable letting this medication go completely. She is doing better and the agression is not as prominate as it once was. She also needs to work on her coping skills for her frustration and outbursts and i am confdent once she starts applying those to daily life and using them accordingly she will not need the risperdal. 

  

She is on a low dose of the lamictal only 50mg a day and my hoep is to keep her at as low a dose as she can survive on. She wa snot stable on the depakote until she reached 1000mg a day and I am glad they switched it, at my request and are trying this med.  

  

  

Time will tell. 

I hope one day she will be able to function without these meds but a lot of functionign has to do with being able to control oneself and use the tools provided (therapy teaching coping skills) She is only 14 and still doesn't understand how to use or them or when so as we work towards them the use of meds may become less and less. (thats my hoep anyways) 

  

I have written crongressmen and others about the mental health and ask you do te same for those that need help but cannot afford it. 

  

Thank you for understanding me :) 

tammy 

I had to jump in.......... 

  

I take my meds every day like I am supposed to, yet I absolutely can't stand it. I do it though, to feel and be somewhat  "normal". If I didn't take them as perscribed, then I would be aggressive and rude, which would in fact, affect many parts of my daily life. My relationship with Thom, my kids, neighbors, fellow students, my professor. You get the gist.  

  

I am always a little zany and off the wall, but that is my sense of humor. I have changed somewhat. I am not a doormat for anyone. When, i was in the depths of depression, it was a free for all.  

  

My problem is with my coping skills............I have them, but do I use them when I'm supposed to? Not Really.  For example....when I get pissed off by someone, 9 times out of 10, I will go off on them. CBT goes out the window, hon. It's the last thing on my mind. If you are doing something dumb, I wil tell you how stupid you are. Is it mean? Well hell yes!!!! Is it rational?, Prob not. 

Although, it is usually in the back of my mind about the consequences. When the rage takes hold, it is hard to deal with anything, BUT that.  

  

If I sound all for the drugs, its because they saved my life. Why wouldn't I be grateful? (and I'm not programmed by the docs and pills). I guarantee you,if not for them, I would be sitting in a jail cell, awaiting trial for murder. (not my kids).  How can that not be a good thing? 

  

Jen 

  

  

 
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November 1, 2005, 8:08 pm PST

Hey Everybody

What's up?  

  

I'm not as mobile as I'd like to be. I dug up my friends burning bush for her and lifted it up out of the ground and into the backseat of my car. It weighed over 100 pounds. My back started hurting w/in 5 minutes. I have pretty much been on my couch with my heating pad on high. The bummer of it is, I had a dr appt for today, but missed it b/c I thought it was the 2nd. I am going to call them and ask to be seen, so that I can have it checked out. 

  

I did want to stop in and say hello and I'm here, just in 5 min intervals  

  

I am going to go watch the news. It is on at 11pm now, instead of 10. What sucks for us is that our time never changes, but our tv viewing does. Meaning people like me lose an hour of sleep, per night. 

  

Gotta get on the heat. 

  

Toodles 

  

Jen 

  

PS- I miss everyone! 

 
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November 6, 2005, 11:34 am PST

Cathy

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so sorry you hurt your back Jen .What did you think you were superhero?LOL When i hurt my back in dec/04 i was down for seven weeks and i used cold paks then i used hot paks as well .But they say not to use a hot or cold pak for more then a half hour at a time.It can tighten the muscles in your back.Jen you shouldn't be losing an hour sleep you should be gaining .your time doesn't change? that sucks big time .Ours went back last sat. in oct.Did you celebrate Halloween?How is Thom doing ?I haven't heard from you in awhile so i thought i'd look you up.How is class going?Well talk soon again.take care of your back.Cathy

My back is much better, thank you for asking. It was just a muscle strain.  

  

As far as the time change, the part of IN that I live in does not participate in Daylight savings time. 

(My state has 3 different time zones at one time....crazy, huh?) 

  

What does change for me is the time that Survivor comes on. Before the time change it came on at 7, now it comes on at 8. Same thing with the news. It used to come on at 10, now it's 11. So it makes me stay up later than normal. Oh well, such is life. 

  

Thom is doing okay. He's his usual nice self.  

  

As far as school, I finished the writing class and have already started a new one. (Human Resources Mgmt). It's not hard. I'm maintaining an A so I can't complain too much. I did all of my homework early yesterday, so i read a whole book early this am (An Unquiet Mind, by Kay Redfield Jamison....I loved it!!) 

  

I hope you have a good time at work. This time of year brings many baked goodies. 

Later 

  

Jen 

 
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January 1, 2006, 10:36 am PST

Hello Tammy

I haven't been on here in months, but wanted to stop in and say hi and HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!! 

  

Jen 

 

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