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August 22, 2005, 11:09 am PDT

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 When my now husband and I were dating for only about a month when I was gone on my ship for two week he cheated on me. I thought I forgave him but now I just can't stop thinking about it and it is eating me up. We have now been together for a year and some odd months but there is never a day that I don't think about it, I feel that I am obsessing. I don't think he would do it again in my heart but I still can't trust him and I am afraid is will ruin our relationship. Please I don't know how to stop letting this small one time cheating go. One thing I don't think he understands is that since he has cheated I feel small, ugly and worthless. I can't stop thinking that if a prettier girl than myself approached him he wouldn't pass up the offer.  I am so scared that I get mad when he just looks at other females when we are together. I know that it sounds childish but I am still hurt and I don't like this feeling and I don't know how to let it go and forgive him with my whole heart. This is the root of all of our problems and if we could get past it we would be so happy. Please, please anybody help me I am going crazy.  

  

  

When your husband cheated on you, you guys had only known one another for one month, far too early to know if the relationship would be permanent! I know its hearbreaking to find out that he cheated, but to continue to think he's cheating is only hurting YOU. You don't deserve to punish yourself like this everyday! I don't think that this is the root of all of your problems, though...I think the root of your problems is your feelings of low self esteem and insecurity. You've got to tell your husband exactly what it is that he can do to make you feel more secure and confidant that he won't cheat ever again, that is the only way to get over this! It doesn't just go away, it would be nice if it did-- but it takes hard work. I'm sure that if he promised never to do it again, that wouldn't be enough, you've got to have evidence that you can actually see and feel. Maybe he needs to give you more compliments? Dr. Phil's book, "relationship rescue" is really great, I recommend that for you and your  husband...it can help both of you learn how to have a happier, more secure relationship. You deserve to be happy!! Its okay to forgive him...its a risk, but one that you can't afford not to take. Also, marriage counceling would be good for you, too...if he won't go, as often men refuse...I highly urge you to go for yourself, because you need to learn the reasons why you even married a man who cheated on you. You are the one suffering because of this, you are the only person who can do anything to make this better. Start taking action now, get dr. phil's book and seek counceling. You won't regret it!! 

 
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August 22, 2005, 11:20 am PDT

Getting on with life......

Quote From: parisienne

Thank you to all who answered my question about the Definition of Toxic. I am still sort of unclear as to the blanket definition. It is a such a popular term but the definition seems to be up to the individual labeling the offensive person (i.e. The Toxic Person) which I don't believe to be a fair thing. I could label someone Toxic because I don't like the fact that they don't like pink the same way I do-- I mean, it is a fad description run amok.   

   

   

   

I think that putting the reasons in a letter for a friend with whom you choose to sever contact is an excellent idea. However, please make sure that this letter actually explains the reasons and doesn't just resort to name calling and being hateful. Hurtful, accusatory letters don't make the person you are addressing feel any better.  

   

   

I don't know. I suppose the reason I am so intrigued by this question is that I don't think I will ever have the opportunity to sit and discuss this issue with the person in question because they are unwilling to even entertain the idea of a simple discussion to try and work out the issues. It is very hard for me to get past the idea that someone out there in the world wants nothing to do with me and has nothing but hateful things to say to anyone they can about me.   

   

   

They (this mother and daughter who have hurt me so) that I am toxic, and evil and that I need help. Well maybe I do need some help, but I have never thought of myself as being evil. This whole situation (see my blog http://diaryofabully.blogspot.com/ for the whole story) has caused me so much pain, but I can also say that it has caused me to examine myself very closely.  

   

   

I have gone through and dissected the friendship that I supposedly spent the better part of (as they accuse me) bullying my friend and "underminding her". I can't understand their accusations because realistically I didn't spend enough time with "Danielle" to have time to bully her. We weren't that close, but that makes the situation even more hurtful.   

   

I just need help in dealing with this accusation that she (and her mother) find me to be "an indecent person" for no apparent reason. At least they refuse to give me a reason. Instead they want to talk to all my friends and try to convince them that I am no good, and that I am dangerous.   

   

   

Luckily, all my friends think that she is crazy. I honestly can't see how I have ever offended her in the ways that she claims.  I am honestly trying to figure this out. I know that I am not perfect but I have been able to maintain healthy relationships, and this is the only one that has turned out to be this way.   

   

   

I can't completely understand why it hurts me so, but it does-- and I am still in the process of trying to figure it all out. I am still researching some clinical definitions of toxic friend, but it appears to me that it is a personal definition.   

   

   

If it is, indeed, a personal definition then it stands to reason that a person could make up reasons to get rid of someone else? Most of my good friends, and family have postulated that perhaps Danielle and her mother wanted an excuse to get rid of me as a friend?  

   

   

I have also heard that there are those people who routinely "clean out" their friends list. I have always thought this to be a rather cold and unfeeling thing to do. What ever happened to loyalty? Working out problems instead of dropping a friend faster than a bad habit?   

   

   

I have never been through this before and it is my first experience dealing with all out rejection like this. I am sorry if I seem obsessive or something, but I am trying to work it out and I feel like if I figure it out then I can get on with my life.   

Girl, I think its only natural to be a little "obsessive" about this-- these people have "dumped" you, given you no actual reason that you can understand, and they are spreading nasty things about you. It would only be human to obsess a bit about your situation! Like you said, its never happened to you before.  

I'm willing to bet you will come out of this a better person. You are willing to examine yourself and your actions, to admit your faults, and to do your best to try to be a better person. This person and her mother sound like hurtful, manipulative people, its actually quite childish. I know its easy to say "forget about them!" but hard to really do that, because this has been very hurtful for  you.  

Have you read any of dr. Phil's books? His books "life strategies" and "self matters" are both really good, you should read either one of them. Its helpful to have guidance when you are going through a personal growing spurt, thats what I felt I was going through when I read the books.  

Listen, you can try to define the meaning of "toxic friend" for the rest of your life, but its not going to help you to heal and move forward...it doesn't really matter what the real definition is, its different for each person who uses the term. For reasons that are not understandable, these people don't want to be your friend any longer. Its their loss...move forward and enjoy the friends you do have. I wish you the best!! You will be happy and have many more friendships. 

 
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August 24, 2005, 12:19 pm PDT

Your mom.....

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Im 18 and I live with my mom. My mom is mean and rude about almost everything I do. She has to know everything I do, everywhere I go. If I go to walmart or something, she even has to know what I bought??? This summer, my g/f of 9 months, were going to move out and get a place of our own together. Then when we had everything going good, we were going to get her son back and take him in. At the time, he was staying with her uncle. I was looking forward to moving out and being on my own, and being with her. But then after I went to see her at her uncles while she was seeing her son, she decided she wanted to come back with me. So I was going to wait the weekend and take her back to the women's shelter where she had been staying.(Long Story, she's 18 too) So, I was going to have her just stay here at the house for a couple of days, knowing my mom wouldnt mind. Then all of a sudden, I wasnt even included in the conversation, my mom told her she could stay here. And then some things happened at her uncles house and my mom knew something was going on, and she told me to send my gf into her room, they talked and when she came out she said "Your mom said me and my son could stay here" SO I was like ok, good, great. Then, about a week or 2 down the line, she says, Im going to have to charge her 50 dollars a month to stay here, which isnt bad, but she shouldve told her that in the begining. And when I first started dating this girl, my mom told me i couldnt, and my mom made it obvious that she didnt like her. I had the nerve to bring her to our house once and my mom was courteous to her face, but rude after she left. What I want to know is, is my mom just jealous, that is what the rest of my family thinks. Was she mad that I was happy? Did she just think that im not ready for that kind of relationship? Or was she just scared that my g/f was about to take her place in my life, and im the youngest so, what is it?

You might not ever know what the real, true reasons why your mom acts this way, but it does sound like she has some jelousy and possesiveness towards you. What was her childhood like, what was her life like when she was your age? Did she miss out on things, because if so, she could be jelous that now you are living the life of a teen that she didn't get to live.  

When you buy things and she wants to know about what it is, is it out of concern that you are wasting money? Does she try to guide you towards being frugal or staying on a budget...or is it all just because she is very nosy? It would be good if the reasons why she is concerned about what you buy is because she wants to teach you the value of a dollar....however it sounds more like she has the attitude that, "this is my home and you do what I say, just because!"  

Its possible that your mom is jelous, but she has allowed your gf to move in, right? Is she nice to her? Is is possible to talk to your mom, like when she is quizzing you about your purchases, say something like, "mom, I know you are concerned about my budget, but why do you need to know everything I buy?" It doesn't have to be a fight, just a conversation so that you can understand her better. You are at the age where you relationship with your mother is going from parent/child to adult/adult now, it can be a rough time when you are figuring out how to assert your adulthood onto your parent. I wish you the best!! 

 
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August 24, 2005, 12:32 pm PDT

Doubts...

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I have been reading through some of the other messages and I guess I'm not the only one with letting go problems.   I am currently seperated from my husband.  I actually have an order of protection against him - the 3rd on in the 4 years we have been married.  I find myself struggling with my feelings for him and I usually find myself going back time after time.   My husband is extremely controlling.  He needs to know where everyone is and every moment.  There is no communication inbetween us - if I have something to say about anything, I might as well keep it to myself.  But on the other hand I better be right there when its something about him.  I could go on and on about different things - he is just a controll freak because of his own insecurities.   He has been out of the house this time for a little over a month and I have completely consumed myself into a wonderful circle of friends, but I find myself everyday questioning my decisions.  I have children from a previous marriage that are standing strong against working the marriage out and I know that is the only reason I haven't let him back in.   Time is ticking and our divorce date is approaching.  My husband wants me to consider marriage counseling.  He tells me that the fate of our marriage lies in my hands now and that if it is at all important I won't blow it off.   I know in my head that I am making the right decisions, but my heart is killing me with doubt.   Does anyone have any suggestions.
Its wonderful that you have a good, strong support system and wonderful friends to keep you occupied. When you feel yourself having those doubts, you need to get out a pen and some paper and start writing a "pro" and "con" list about your husband. Ask yourself, can you go back to living with his controling ways again? Can you live that way forever? Listen, there must be a good reason why you've got your third restraining order...don't doubt yourself any longer!! The more that you listen to your instincts and stand strong in your decisions, the more you will be convinced that your instincts are correct. What happens when you are in a controling relationship is that you get disconnected from your own instincts and you devalue your own opinions because thats what the person controling you does...you start to believe that you can't live without someone controling you. But he's been out of the house for quite some time and you are living just fine, right? I suspect that being in the controling relationship is a kind of toxic comfort zone for you, its all that you've known for a long time, so by being out of the relationship, you are out of your comfort zone...and if you fail at something, it won't be his fault, it reallywill be yours...but girl, you've got to do this...its better to fail then to not try at all! Its better to be healthy, safe, and without a man then to be dysfunctional, codependant, and scared with a man. Keep your chin up, stay strong! Do you have friends that you can call when you are feeling weak who can remind you of the reasons why you are going through with this? I know that when I was in your shoes, I had one super close friend who I could call when I felt weak, and when things he would say started to really get to me, and she would remind me of the reality of everything, she was awesome! Also, having that list of pro's and con's helped. Your husband is probably in disbelief that you are really doing this...he's had just control for so long, he is probably confidant that if he keeps hammering away at you and playing into your doubts that you will give in. Don't give him what he wants. Start living for YOU :)
 
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August 25, 2005, 10:31 am PDT

Inlaws and holidays.......

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Maybe I didn't explain it completely right. I don't take his family out of his life all year long. They do. It's their choice to not be a part of his life during the year. That's what makes me upset. His family talks behind his wifes back,(They have even talked bad about him to his friends trying to get them to slam on HIM) they don't ever do anything to have a relationship with him or me all year long, and then EXPECTS us to be there for the holidays. I could understand if things were normal and they had a relationship all year long. But they don't. So, it's not ME, who takes them out of his life. We have close friends and family that are always there all year long. They are there for my husband, my children and me and we are there for them. So, We all share the stuff through the year, the good the bad, the ugly, then at the holidays when you are suppose to spend time with the people you really care about and love at the holidays and celebrate I am with the people who back stab all year long. This isn't normal. And There  is nothing stopping him from going there. I have told him if he wants to go, why can't he go and then come home when he has had enough time with them. I have tried to compermise with them about getting together with them on Christmas Eve and then spend Christmas with our children on Christmas. They said it wouldn't be the same. Well, It's only the same for them. They are not taking into account that they are ruining my holidays. My children don't get time with their mommy on the holidays that's quality. To me my children and my husband and I should be happy together on those days, NOT just him, and NOT just his family. They are not the only consideration here.  

You need to give yourself alot of credit, here....this has been going on for nearly five years and you've tried and tried, and now you have accepted that this just isn't going to work..its not that you haven't tried..you have done all that you can do. Its time to have happy holidays with your husband and children, make memories that they will remember when they grow up and have families of their own. Its time to start your own traditions separate from his family. Who cares what they think or say if you aren't there...you are putting your own happiness and the happiness of your kids FIRST from now on. It sounds like your husband understand and acknowledges how his family "is", right? Its not fair that you are expected to endure this treatment year after year. From now on, you need to come up with a plan for your family for the holidays and stick to it. To have your family home on Christmas morning is wonderful, the kids get to open their presents and play with them, and mom and dad get to share in that. If they don't want to do Christmas eve with you guys, then thats their choice, but you don't have to keep tolerating their treatment of you. Encourage your husband to go on without you if he wants to, but be clear that you've had enough. Don't feel badly about this, you've tried!! I wish you the best!
 
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August 25, 2005, 10:46 am PDT

time and money

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My daughter has been suffering depression since early teens.  She has been seeing a therapist since she was 16.  She is now 17.  Everytime it is time to start school, she starts making bad decisions.  She starts being sick, migraines.  She recently went off her birth control stating she just missed a few, was having unprotected sex with boyfriend, then thought she was pregnant.  I try to explain how her choices are making her physical symptoms and how they are really bad decisions, but then she starts blaming me, I have never been there for her, that I have no right giving her advice now.  I know it is because she doesn't want to face herself, but I am at the end of my rope.  So is her granny.  I have her staying with her granny to have allergy shots to help with the migraines and she was fine with it because her granny would let her get away with things me and her step-father wouldn't.  Now her granny doesn't and she isn't liking it and saying I have abandoned her.  I am the one paying the bills still, and taking her to many of her appointments, but she says I never have time for her.  I have tried to tell the therapist this, but I am not sure how far that is going.  I keep trying to help myself to help her, but helping her takes alot of time and money.  Any suggestions.

Yes, mom...its going to take alot of time and money!! Is your daughter on medication for her depression? Is her therepist aware of your daughter's attempt to get pregnant? Thats what she's doing...she has low self esteem, and she thinks that if she gets pregnant, her boyfriend won't leave her...which is very flawed thinking. She sounds desperate for your time. Its time to take her home. You need to know where she is every hour of every day and what she is doing. Stop blaming yourself and start taking action. Kids can't raise themselves, teens definatly can't raise themselves, even though they think they know what they want. She is displaying self destructive behavior by having unprotected sex, and thats because she doesn't think she is worthy of having a healthy and happy life. You might want to find an alternative therepist, someone who specializes in teens and self destructive behavior, not just depression, because there should be some results from her therepy by now. Sometimes, a person and their therepist just don't "click", and that might be what is happening with your daughter. Ask her. This is going to harder before it gets easier! 

 
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August 26, 2005, 4:53 pm PDT

Manipulative MIL

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My MIL was great before my husband and I got married and had a baby. She acts like she is the mother of my baby, not the grandmother. From the timewas daughter was born she insisted on me leaving the baby at her house. When she would come to see the baby she will carry her into another room to be alone with her. She wants to be in control of everything that has to do with my daughter. She wants her to be raised the way she wants. She will teach her to do things (like drink out of a real cup instead of a sippy cup) behind our back and then lie to us about it. She has even told me that my daughter won't crawl, she'll walk, and she won't use a sippy cup, she'll use a real cup. She doesn't say things like that or act controlling and pushy in front of my husband. Her lies worry me. She lies not only about things regarding our daughter but also about other things. She will lie to get my husband to do things for her that she just doesn't want to do. She also made made up a lie about the dentist saying and doing inappropriate things to her 10 year old daughter (my husbands half sister). I think she just wants attention from my husband. When my husband tried to talk to her about the issues we have with her she told him that she doesn't come over much anymore because she gets a bad vibe from me. I am very nice to her and act friendly. I have made the decision not to leave my daughter with her anymore. She can come visit and we will go visit her but I will not leave her there. I can't trust her to respect me as my daughter's mother. It has taken time for my husband to see her for who she is (somewhat). I don't get why she lies to us. She is 50 years old, it is very odd to me that she would act the way she does. She will hardly talk to me anymore or look at me. I have done nothing to her for her not to like me. I think she is just angry that I don't let her have her way with my daughter. My husband and I don't know how to fix this and have a relationship with her again. They used to be very close and don't talk much anymore.

The decision to not have your daughter stay at your MIL's house without you is a good one. You have to listen to your intuition on this...you are right about this woman, something isn't "right" with the way she is.  

Its only natural for a baby to crawl and then walk, and to drink from a sippy cup and then from a regular cup!! It sounds like she is desperate for attention, any kind of attention, even from a baby, thats why she will take the baby in another room to be alone with her- because she needs the one on one attention from the baby. I suggest following her when she does that!! She is using the baby to fullfill her needs, and its not healthy for the baby to grow up with the burden of making sure her grandmother is happy, its suppose to be the other way around!!  

Its going to be difficult for your husband to fully realize what his mother is doing because this is the woman he was raised around, so to him, some of her behavior is seen as 'normal' and other behaviors he might know are not normal, yet its just too difficult to admit that the person who is supposed to love you would do things harmful to you and/or your child. Who wants to admit that their own mother is a lieing manipulating sneak? Its not easy. But your husband needs to realize that the happiness of your child is in yours and his hands, and it is in your child's best interest to protect her.  

Keep smiling when you see your MIL and ask her about her life.. usually people like her love to talk about themselves. It is unfortunate that your husband and his mom aren't as close as they used to be, but how do you make another person stop being a liar? You can't. The only thing you can do is change your behavior towards her, as you have been. Is it possible for your husband to point out to her that he knows she has lied about certain things, or from now on could you agree that he will speak up when he knows she isn't being truthfull about things? She lies because she can, so the less she can lie and get away with it, the better off things will be.  

 
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August 27, 2005, 2:56 pm PDT

alcohol & enablers....

Quote From: kandyland2

I cannot believe how much you read into what I had posted; my husband has actually been saying all along that this situation is fully about the alcoholic & the enablers; I also agree that these relationships aren't something that should be forced; last Friday, my husband & I took his mom (my MIL) out for dinner; we had a very pleasant time; we talked & she seemed so much more relaxed than when she's around her daughter & son-in-law. I showed my husband your response to my post, and he agreed with everything you stated.  However, there is one small problem: my SIL (the one living here) had a baby in June, 2004; my husband "wants to see her growing up", even though he rarely if ever makes any attempts to set up time to see the baby; of course, when we do see her, we have to deal with all the adults in the situation: MIL, SIL, BIL and all the nonsense (BIL's drunk friends, etc.); my husband is very "insistent" about this, but at the same time, I really would rather just have the baby visit with us, IE: we could take her out or bring her with us to a special outing, rather than visit with all the other chaos that goes along with it.  My husband still gets upset when I say "I don't mind going there, as long as we're not there for hours at a time"; I guess I'm just feeling that our most recent history will repeat, and the pattern of our visits will go back to before the "blow up" on the 4th of July weekend; any suggestions on how to convince him that maybe we should leave things alone for a while?

I've had personal experiences simular to yours, thats why I'm able to read the underlying 'stuff'.... I guess its not clear to me why your husband gets upset when you say you don't mind going, but you don't want to stay for hours at a time? Whats so upsetting about that- you are offering a logical compromise for a potentially chaotic situation with his family. He's fully aware of what will happen, there is a very clear pattern of your BIL's verbal abuse and alcoholism, so why stay and tolerate it? There isn't any need to do that. 

As for your neice, what about offering to babysit her, like you suggested taking  her out with you guys or even sleeping over at your house, she's a toddler now, so that would be a wonderful way for your husband to forge a bond with her. Its difficult, if not very near impossible, to have a healthy bond with this neice when the "visiting" is done around all of the family chaos. If you guys take her and do special things with her, creating fun memories for her, she will always remember you guys as saving her from that chaotic family environment- and thats a good thing. Every kid who has an alcoholic parent needs to have other adults in the family willing to take them away from that once in awhile and show her what "normal" really is...otherwise she will grow up thinking that kind of home life is normal, and she will seek out a mate like her father. Then, the cycle starts all over again.  

You are so right about the pattern of your visits returning to how they were...as long as everyone just pretends that things are fine, things are great, then the BIL will continue his rude behavior and others will continue to cover and make excuses for him. Keep your distance. You guys don't have to be in on the enabling! If you return to your same old pattern of going there, its like saying its okay to be treated like crap by him...and its not ok.  

I suggest offering to take the baby for a few hours here and there, and once she gets more familiar with the two of  you, then offer to have her overnight. I don't see how your husband can "see her grow up" otherwise, unless he decides to go there and be a verbal punching bag. I wish you guys the best of luck- whatever you do, don't allow this to affect your relationship with one another! Honestly there might always be some problems or tension with the in-laws, things might never be perfect, but it shouldn't effect your relationship. 

 
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August 27, 2005, 3:10 pm PDT

to 'kltait'..............

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My story is a tough one, to me anyways. I am engaged to a man I love more than anything. We will be married Dec 14th of this year,a nd have been together for 2 yrs. We are both in our 30's, and have been previously married. We both have kids from our past marraiges also. All of our kids get along better than I could have ever imagined, and we each are close with the others kids.  

My problem is that my Fiance is NOT an affectionate man, and I feel like I am almost starved for affection, a hug, a kiss, to hear him say he loves me.. ETC.. It never happens. I feel lonely. Does that make since? I have spoken to him about it, and that is hm by nature. I know he loves me and I see it in other things he does, but I still feel like I am starting to get resentfull because I want so much to feel love from him too. When we go to bed at night he wants to go right to sleep, he wakes early for his job, I undersatnd, but hey, can you ever give me 10 min. I get mad, and then he feels I am nagging at him. Am I being selfish? Am I wrong?  

Another thing I have noticed is that when his kids come over to see us (they live with the mom) I sometimes am on edge. We get along great, and he dosen't leave me out, but I think I almost feel like I am goingt ot be ignored even more than I normally am. I have tried to give a brief run down. If anyone can offer me some advice.. PLEASE DO!!!!!  

No, you aren't selfish to want more affection! However, there needs to be some way that you can come to terms with the fact that, as you said, thats "just the way he is".... I think that the tension, or feelings of being 'on edge' as you describe when his kids are over, might be due to feelings of low self esteem or low self worth. Your value as a person shouldn't hinge on how much affection your mate gives you, it comes from within YOU. Both of your concerns that you describe can only be solved by you, not some outside source or your fiance. That probably isn't what you want to hear, and of course I'm no professional, but from what I have read in Dr. Phil's books and from my own personal experience, thats my advice to you.  

A very close friend of mine was with a man who was much like you describe your fiance- very good provider, very upstanding and honest man, but he wasn't intimate with her, she finally decided to go to see a therepist due to her depression and after a few months she realized that her self worth wasn't equal to how much intimacy her boyfriend gave her. Its not an easy concept to accept, because I think alot of us women are raised to equate our self worth with men's affection- but they actually don't have much to do with each other. I wish you the best and hope that you can accept the way your boyfriend is, love him with his flaws, or decide you can't and move forward. 

 
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August 27, 2005, 3:17 pm PDT

What Dr. Phil would say.....

Quote From: lucky35

Hi, me and my husband are recently married 1 1/2 year and our marriage has already been tested. I just want to know if what we are going through is normal for married couples?  We love each other deeply, but our finances are not that great.  I just left/lost a $43000.00/year job and my husband starts at Starbuck's on Monday as a barista.  Neither me or my husband have held a job longer than a year, but we are both educated.  I am highly educated. I get so mad and frusterated because I got married not only because I loved my husband, but because I wanted help financially.  Since the marriage it has been probably a 60/40 or even 70/30 split on expenses with me carrying the greater load.  How can I not let financial worries affect our marriage? I am 7 years older than my husband and I know it will be a long time before he gets his act together, but being the impatient person that I am, the wait is killing me!  HELP!

I think I know what Dr. Phil would say, he'd tell you that money problems are what break up most marriages these days, and that to make things work, you BOTH have to be on the same page where  your finances are concerned, or it just won't work. 

You've got to ask yourself some tough questions, such as, what are the facts/reasons why neither of you can hold a job for more then a year? Why did you marry a man who isn't finacially stable? Both of these answers might be the same, is it low self esteem? Perhaps you have a low level depression that leads you to losing jobs due to missing work or poor performance, or low self esteem that lead you to settling for a man you love but who isn't financially stable. You DO deserve to have a sense of security within your marriage, and that has nothing to do with age! Many, many people hold full time jobs from the time they are old enough to work. Your difference in age doesn't have anything to do with him not holding a job. He doesn't keep a job because he doesn't have to, he probably knows that you will tolerate him being not employed as long as he keeps promising to "try".... I suggest that you read Dr. Phil's book "self matters"... I know that it really helped me alot when I was depressed, and I still have it right here on my nightstand to review from time to time. Best wishes. 

 

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