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November 13, 2005, 7:21 am PST

Give him a gift!!

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My boyfriend and I have been living together for 9 month now and we have been known each other for 13 month. We both have kids. He has an 11 year old boy and I have a 9 year old girl. The thing is that now I am ready to move on to another step - get married. But I think he is never going to marry me. Why? I think I even know why! He is a very wealthy guy and he is just afraid for his money. I tried to talk to him to see what is going to happen to us in the future, because I want to know what his plans are and his responce was: "I just want us to be happy". But I am not happy. I tried to tell him that but he does not want to listen. I work and make very little money. I live in his house. He has his own money I have my own. He has all the benefits from us living together: he has a lover and a cook and a cleaning leady (Me) and what do I have? I just have to watch him spending lots of money on his son and me not been able to afford to take my daughter anywere. I feel so poor next to him, I feel like he can throw me out of his house any time he wants to. I spend alot of my money on the food for the whole family. Here's what I would like: I would like to marry him and I don't even mind signing a prenup where He would keep whatever he had before marriage and can give it to his son or whatever he wants to do with it in case of his death or in case of anything else. And he would never have to pay alimony in case of a divorce. But I want to have a joint bank account where he would put all the money he makes and I would put all the money I make (and I make ALOT less than he does I know that) in together so that we could be in charge of it together and so that I don't have to feel that poor and insecure next to him like I do know. I am very depressed....I would kill myself if I did not have my daughter that's how bad I feel. I feel like a failurer like a bad mother like a bad girlfriend like a looser. I see no bright future. I wish me and my boyfriend could talk........So we could come to some kind of agreement on how we are going to live together. He is happy and he does not want to change anything. He does not want to listen to me because he is afraid to hear what he does not want to hear. I don't even have a medical insurance because I can't afford it. He knows it but never offered help. He spends $800.00 a month just on the games with his son and does not want to help me out with the medical insurance and I will never ask for his help. What should I do? Am I just a bad woman? Do I just want to much? Please help me!!!!!!!

Here was my situation briefly: After living with a man for 10.5 years in a happy relationship, where marraige came up once in awhile, I caught him cheating. In his defence he justified the cheating because we were not married.  I gave him 2 chances too many to change his behavoir and ended up walking.  I have never been happier.   

  

Since then I have asked him if we were married would it have made a difference.  He said yes, because he would have felt more secure.  I didn't feel any less secure not being married, nor did I feel that we were less committed to each other. I will never ever really know - who can trust a liar and a cheater. 

  

It makes sense to me to live together.  It is like a trial run, you can see if you are compatible living with one another, expenses are cheaper, blah, blah, blah. But, (and no that doesn't mean disregard everything I just said, it means - on the other hand) men seem to have a different perspective on the cohabitational relationship.  It's  like a freebee for them.  All the benefits of having a wife without the commitment. 

  

I will never live with man again.  Now back to you (this message board sucks, I don't remember who the poster was).  Often times we don't know what we can do because we don't know what we can do.  It is great that you have reached out for advice so you can see what some other options are.  

  

Of course he is happy!! You both think he has all the power and you are buying into it!! You sooooooo deserve better than that.  You need someone who appreciates you.  Why not start with yourself?  Find your self-worth.  Stop all of the "I'm a failure", "I'm a bad mom" , "I'm a bad woman", "I want to much" tapes and replace them with "I am worthy", "I'm an awesome mother", "I am a great woman", "I deserve more and I will get it!!".  I know exactly how much strength you can get from your children.  We all feel or have felt, while going through a crisis, if we didn't have this person or that person we would die.  The reality is we all have an inner strength and it comes when we are our own best-friends.   

  

Now, since you do have your daughter you can pull that into the picture and draw upon that strength, until you discover your own self-worth.  Do you want her to grow up thinking she needs a man to survive? Do you want her to see how you have to be disrespected in order to live? No, no, no... that is not what you want her to learn. 

  

There is no doubt in my mind that you are worthy of this man's love, and attention.  I don't think he is worthy of you giving him another thought.  Obviously, you entered into this arrangement thinking it was some type of partnership.  So, get a plan together.  Plan A, and Plan B.  Run them simultaeneously.   

  

Plan A could be you try to renogotiate what the relationship is.  Start by what he thought it was when you moved in and what you thought it meant when you moved in.  What you both think it is now and where you both want it to go, and come to some compromise. You must do this with confidence.  Pretend like you are a actress if you have to.  Say things like as if you were selecting a flavor of ice-cream, not like your daughter's life depends on it - because it doesn't.  And keep things in about a 20 minute time frame.  The goal is that he sees that you are worthy of a partnership, you have self-respect, and he is in training to treat you the way you deserve to be treated... Like the queen you are!! 

  

Plan B (in my opinion) should be you preparing to walk.  Where can you and your daughter go? Are there family or friends that will help you out?  Take inventory.  How much money do you need to save for another place to live? What kinds of programs are there in your area to help you? Maybe a church or other organization.  Stop providing extras in the current household and don't be guilted into spending your money on the household. Your contribution is all the other stuff you do.   

  

1. You are number One.  Take care of yourself!! Eat right, exercise, look nice. 

2. Be happy about it.  This will free you of a lot of stress. This is a happy time -  you get what you want or you go and get what you want. People like to be around happy people. 

3. Don't need him - really you don't need someone that is selfish and makes you feel like a looser.  No one has the right to make you feel bad!! Seriously, there is not one person that should have that much power over you.  He's taking advantage. 

4. Tell him what you prefer... I prefer to stay here and be your mate, but if you want me to move out I understand.  Like I prefer to have vanilla ice-cream, but if all you have is chocolate that's fine.  I would like to give my self to you but if you would like the gift of missing me that's fine too. 

  

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November 13, 2005, 7:57 am PST

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My husbands best friends are my best fiends they are great guys. They are brothers one is single one has been in a relationship for over 10 years. He is very worried about his relationship with his girlfriend, she went away to visit her sister for a week and when she came back she had lots of questions for him. Where do you see yourself in 3 years? My parents want to know what are your intentions. Would you be responsible with money? Her parents don't want her to live with him before marriage. He is 28 and he said he would like to be married before he turns 30. Her parents and her would like him to start going to church he said he would like to but for her not for her mom and dad. Now the problem is they both still live at home with there parents, I think her parents are pressuring  to either move on or start thinking about plans for marriage but they want him to join there church. Growing up he didn't go to church very much, but he is willing to go for her. He said he didn't want to tell her that because she is trying to decide if she wants to move on without him or stay with him. He was willing to buy her a ring but she said she would say no right now  because he would be doing it since she is bringing everything up now. Same thing with the church issue he is willing but he doesn't want to say anything because she would think it was because she brought it up. She also said they never do anything different. I told him they are in a rut. Take her someplace new. he does and she just gets mad and says he is just doing it because of everything.  He doesn't know what to say or do to him it's just a waiting game he loves her and doesn't want her to brake up with him. We talked for hours about it and I just listened I was at a loss for words. I don't know what to say. She also asked him if he wondered what it would be like to be with someone else, he said sometimes but he would never want to be with anyone else. When he asks to talk about everything she gets mad at him. He wants to know if he should sit and wait for her to make up her mind or should he tell her to call him when she makes up her mind. What do you think of this?

I think it is for them to work out.  You are doing a great job by not seeming to take sides.  I think that is that the best place for you. You should just listen and be supportive.  Maybe they should ask the church for advice, or some sort of pre-marriage counseling? It is obvious by your post that men and women communicate differently and that they need to understand those differences and work this out together. 

  

 
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November 13, 2005, 8:07 am PST

Age Difference

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  I am a 22 year old white female and I have been dating my boyfriend for around 2 years.  I love him with all of my heart and our goals in life are one in the same.  I have had a lot of life experience for the age of 22 and I know myself very well.  So let me get down to my question.
        Kevin is 34 years old and a very hard working man.  He is a wonderful Christian man that wants to be my husband and also a father to "our children" one day.  We enjoy each others company tremendously and spend all our free time together usually doing outdoor sports.  At first we were just casually dating that eventually turned into head over hills love.  I want to marry the man of my dreams very soon!  My family thinks he's a good guy but he's too old so that makes him "just not the one for me."  I want to just go with my heart because I feel God sent him to me.
       He and I both know that most marriages these days end in divorce.  But both of us are pretty traditional and know we can make it work with lots of dedication.  Do you guys and gals think I am going to be making a mistake considering the age difference. Thanks again and I am looking forward to you guys response.


I don't think there is any problem with an age difference.  The biggest thing is to realize that there is an age difference, he has lived a little longer and has more experience.  That should be recognized when making decisions. You are younger and may or may not be as mature or responsible as he is.  I am not saying you are or aren't, and it shouldn't make that big of a difference.  If this is what you both want then I say go for it!! I don't think age should stand in your way. 

  

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November 14, 2005, 5:24 am PST

Interesting

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I am constatnly accused to cheating on my husband. Just cuz I am a stay at home mom trying my best to maintain my family and marriage. It hurts to know that even though you are trying your hardest to do what you think is best, your sig. other just reads too much into things and feels that you are just doing everything possible to do things behind his back. Even when you are new to an area and really don't know anyone. My husband thinks I am cheating on him behind his back with everyone practically.

Hummm... My long-term, live in boyfriend of 10 years started accussing me of cheating also.  Come to find out he was the one doing the cheating.  It seems to be a trait among cheaters.  I don't understand it myself.  I know there is a lot at stake here and you need to do something.  Your first instinct is do everything to please.  Nothing wrong with that, especially if you are happy doing it.  If it were me and of course I don't have all the details I would 1. Make friends in the community - the worst thing you can do is isolate yourself. 2. Look for signs he is being faithfull (I choose the positive here - I mean rule out cheating) 3. Take care of yourself!! Eat right, excercise, and look nice. 4. Always be happy around him. 5. If he is cheating what are you going to do? Make a plan. 

  

How to deal with the accusations? Don't be defensive.  You've done nothing wrong.  Only once tell him that you are emotionally mature enough to end one relationship before starting another. That these accusations have to stop. You have choosen to spend the rest of your life with him and that you would never do anything to jeopardize that.  Let him know you refuse to be treated as if you are not trust worthy.  Let him know how you really feel - hurt, angry, and whatever else it is.  Tell him he has nothing to worry about.  After that if he continues turn the tables... say playfully maybe I need to buy you a leash!! or I'm so flattered you think someone else would be interested in me. Think up some good ones. 

  

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December 10, 2005, 9:30 am PST

Cheated On

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I haven't tried to isloate myself at all. I just don't make it out much. Not with 3 kids and no car.  I know he can only change himself andI don't get defensive. I just try to get him to tell me who he thinks I am doing it with.  He usually won't answer. Any suggestions on how to make him talk ? He's got this containment system where he doesn't like to talk about anything. But then again, he is a former user and has been clean for 7 years. I know that has something to do with the not trusting thing. Any Suggestions ?? 

  

I am stuck !!! 

  

Thank you 

Three Kings 

I see... You haven't tried to isolate yourself.  The end result is the same.  You are still isolated.  It is the same thing.  You don't have a support group, which in turn makes you feel stuck.  That, in my opinion, is his objective.  And I could go on about this but, your question now is how to get him to open up.  And I understand that you want to make this work and how frustrated with the situation you will have to be before you throw in the towel, and how you will feel if it doesn't work.  So, I will give you some ideas of how to get him to open up, because you think he is having trust issues with you, which, I will tell you he doesn't.  I will tell you with certainty that this has nothing to do with you at all. 

  

I guess to figure out what will make him open up you have to know why he won't open up?  Because a. he would have to go through his pain and feel what he is feeling, and b. he would have to hurt you to do that.  He doesn't know how much pain you are in now. He justifies not telling you his issues by protecting you.  What he is really doing is what he wants to do, when he wants to do it to make himself feel better.  This is such a dangerous game.  Because you end up being the victim.  So, either you are going to turn that around or you will be the victim. 

  

Timing is everything... You will have to catch him in between activities.  No man wants to talk in the middle of a football game.   

  

1.  You can find out what he does like to talk about.  This will take a lot of poking and prodding with questions until he starts talking.  Some questions about work things, character, values, sports, family, friends, what he likes and doesn't like, aliens, reincarnation, movies.  Just anything you can think of.  Your bound to find something he likes to talk about.  What ever it is or the subjects are turn bring the conversation up later and ask what he thinks about what you want to know.  Like if it sports you can ask what he thinks about athletes being role models, about their conduct on and off the field.  I think you get the idea.  The problem with this is that you have to carefully choose your words and tone so that he doesn't feel interrogated.  The flip side is that you may feel that you are not getting any where and end up frustrated.  This is where that support group comes in handy because they can diffuse the frustration and cheer you on - if that is what you want. 

  

2.  Stage as much time as you can alone with him.  Maybe establish a date night.  Use your creativity to put the kids to bed and then you and him have dinner.  Make a big deal with music and candles.  Or just plan on playing a card or board game.  Plan to carry a conversation.  Make yourself vulnerable, tell stories.  Have one or two questions for him... What intrigues you most about women? What are your 3 top achievements? Or what ever things you can think of that challenges him.  Just ensure your not going to be left starring at him and bored to death.  The objective is to become interesting and engaging not frustrated so, prepare for the worse.  He takes his plate to the living  room and turns on the TV... What are you going to do? He asks you to be quiet.  What then?   

  

3.  State your position.  Make him aware of what your position is.  You probably aren't clear on this yourself.  And this can be on any subject.  After you state your position ask him what his is.  He may not have thought about it so ask him again later.  The objective here is you have let him know where you are coming from and you want to know where he stands.  Again opening up an avenue for communication on a deeper level then "I enjoyed the weather today."  

  

I suppose all of my concepts are to get him talking about something, showing him you care and are interested in him, letting yourself be vulnerable to him and that you are free to opening up to him in hopes that he will open up to you.  I have found that the lectures don't work.  Combining general conversation and an activity with a message sometimes work.  Acceptance and understanding usually work.   

  

You have a hard row to hoe.  It will take a lot of effort.  I do hope you find what you looking for and I wish you the best life ever!! 

  

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Kindle 

  

 
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December 11, 2005, 5:18 am PST

Jaded?

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The funny thing is that by the time a girl gets it, it's too late for HER.  She's so old, why bother? 

  

I was once that nice guy.  I was ALWAYS there when a girl needed me.  What resulted?  I was cheated on, lied to and worse. 

  

Now I tell guys that women are like cars.  Always get the one off the lot.  No one wants the car with 150,000 miles.  Same with women.   Do you a want a woman who doesn't want to be touched because that reminds her of the guy who beat her up (the same guy she went back to five times?) or do you want that cute college student?   

  

I truly feel that as women age, they want the nice guy because they've lost their beauty and can't be as manipulative.  Nice guys are whimpy enough to fall for it because they're desparate.  They're happy that anyone wants them-even if its an old maid. 

  

I don't believe I'm exaggerating.  American women are all the same.  Foreign girls are your best bet because they aren't as taken by the illusion that they can have it all.  They're not supposed to. 

  

Sure, all the old women are going to respond negatively.  But, remember girls, I was once at your feet and offered you a lifetime.  You wanted to screw around and now that you've lost your polish, you come crawling for a life partner.   

  

Isn't life funny?  Men get better as we age.  The same can't be said for the women who roared! 

  

  

  

You are a very unhappy, bitter man.  I don't think you will have to worry about anyone ever raking you over the coals again.  And if you do find someone who is interested I would run the other way as quick as possible, because anyone that is that desperate will be a heartache waiting to happen. 

  

Just re-read what you posted and the same can be said about men.  Why do you think so many women are dating younger men?  How do they get those guys?   

  

Do you think sweet young women want some bitter, middle-aged, jerk, who's afraid of someone pulling at his heart strings, because he is either too stupid or too lazy to figure out what he did wrong before? I don't. 

  

You need at least a year of therapy before you should be allowed back into the dating game. 

  

I wish you well, 

Kindle 

 
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December 11, 2005, 5:29 am PST

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A word of advice, friend.  American woMEAN are a waste of time.  Go to Mexico, Asia or Europe.   

LMAO!! ..."scratches head*.... I really can't believe you said this.  I'm laughing so hard right now I can't hardly type.  You're kidding us right?  And you call it advice?  Interesting... Really, how is this helpfull?
 
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December 11, 2005, 6:44 am PST

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No female no matter what age would want you.  Men age too, I see them with wrinkles and beer bellies and wide middles.  We all age take a good look in the mirror.   Not all women like bad boys and it has nothing to do with age.   My value isn't based on my ability to attract men or reproduce with them - I'm past the physical too bad you're not. 

  

  

Ms. Coffee, 

  

How do you reply on this message board with out the full message? 

  

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December 11, 2005, 7:35 am PST

Calling all Knights!!

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  I'm Theresa and I have been single for 6 yrs now, My ex husband is remarried and has 2 more kids  with his wife. I have a son that I love, I'm tired of being alone, I'm over weight and no one likes me... I just want to find some one that will like me for who I am. I live in Orlando,  I mean I have depression, and I really hate feeling this way, 6 yrs of being alone with no one to love u and care for u, It really sucks... 

Let's see here...  

  

1. You are over-weight (no problem if you like being over-weight, but it sounds to me like you don't think this is a plus) 

  

2. You are depressed 

  

3. No one likes you 

  

What's the problem? Guys should just be trampling each other to get your digits!!  What's not to love?  Come on Theresa!! Six years?  Waiting for someone to save you?  Start today!! Get a plan and put it into action!! You deserve better!! You owe it to yourself - Get a life!!  

  

The trueth of the matter is that no one wants to put any effort into you if you - yourself, are not putting in any effort.  I want you to pick yourself up and brush yourself off and make a life for yourself and your son.  Today I want you to leave that pity party!! Take off the dress!! Don't dance that dance anymore!!  

  

Stop eating the junk to make yourself feel better and start doing yoga (or other excersise), it will make you feel fantastic!  Find a therapist - depression is extreamly hard to kick by yourself.  And no one likes you? Why? Change the why... Again... Start today. 

  

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December 11, 2005, 10:36 am PST

Places to Meet Guys

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 I'm a guy having the exact same problem....I think we should build a place.  A coffee shop maybe.  I just find its hard because all of my friends are married, and only ever want to stay in...which means I'm stuck with the same 6 people all the time, and have nobody to go out with...if I had somewhere to go out to.

My old standbys are take a class, or just be a regular at a nearby coffee shop so people recognize you...but that hasn't been working for me...any one else with ideas?

According to Dr. Phil these are the best places to meet men: 

  

Church or Temple, Batting cages, The U.S. Opens, Baseball games, Sporting events, Sports bars, Cigar bars, Sporting goods stores, Music festivals, Concerts, Art galleries, Car shows, Golf courses, Your office, Clubs, Bars of trendy resturants, The park, The dog run, The internet, The gym, Philanthropic groups, Political campaingns, Auto racing events, Airplanes, Bookstores, Tennis courts, Shooting range, Starbucks, Lacrosse games, Hockey games, Hardware stores. 

  

He says go to where the guys are.  I personnaly have had great success meeting men at the gym, Border's, and Starbucks. 

 

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