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November 28, 2005, 10:49 am PST

I was expecting this

I was looking for someone to play the "condom card".  If you are in a commited adult  relationship and you tell your boyfriend you are on the pill why should he doubt you.  I am a 35 year old married woman.  When I met my husband I assured him that I didn't want kids ever.  A year later I changed my mind, so like any adult should do I discussed this with him.  I was fortunate and he agreed to let me have a baby.  But if he had said "sorry but no"  I would have had to live with that.  He entered the relationship with me saying, no kids, and I was fully prepared to honor that statement. 

I understand accidents happen, although my parents were married and had one child already I was a "birth control pill baby".   

There is a HUGE difference in the pill failing to work and deliberately getting pregnant so someone will marry you.  Getting pregnant on purpose is so utterly deceitful and childish.   

 
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November 28, 2005, 10:55 am PST

You rock!

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It isn't enought to have every possible birth control device available.  We have to make it "OK" to use them.  In my opinion, here in the US, we still have this "cowboy/baptist" attitude toward women.  A women (like me) who sees sex as her own choice, and birth control as just one more medical responsibility, is often labeled a (horrors!) feminist, ie. unnatural man-hater.  Catholic teaching (my own experience here) is STILL saying not to use birth control at all.  So a young girl who wants to keep a boyfriend will choose taking a chance over using birth control - somehow in a twisted patriarchal way, that's the less perverted choice!  Why isn't birth control FREE?  Why is Viagra covered and not birth control - hello!  Being married is no excuse for not protecting yourself.  In fact, being married makes accidental pregnancies more possible, right?  

  

In the end, I agree that people get what they bargain for.  If I had too many kids already, um, tubes tied / pill / depo provera already!  That way, a sneaky husband can get some fun, but no more kids! 

I agree whole heartedly.  I am a grown, mentally sound, woman.  I am responsible for my body and my decisions, no one else is.  I also agree that birth control should be free, I strongly think this would lessen the number of children that get abused every year because there parents didn't want them and take that frustration out on the child.
 
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November 28, 2005, 11:02 am PST

I agree

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Putting aside the lies and nonconsentual issues, how can anyone expect to have a good marriage when there is no time for the couple to build their foundation before there are babies.  My husband and I didn't decide to start our family until we had been married long enough to know that we were compatible and we knew we were ready to take on that challenge.  We had our careers started and we were living in a community where we wanted to stay. 

  

Even though our first child was born after our 9th anniversary, it was a big adjustment and we still had to overcome some issues. Planning on having a baby immediately after marriage sounds like you are asking for trouble.    

  

A happy and successful marriage isn't automatic, even when both spouses are completely into getting married.  Using pregnancy and trickery to trap someone into a marriage they otherwise wouldn't choose is a mistake. 

I am expecting my first child in February.  I will be 35 when she is born and I purposely waited this long to have a baby.  I don't care if I look like her granny at the playground, I am free to love her with my whole heart.  My husband and I don't have to worry about money or housing and I will never have to wonder about the "road not traveled".  We can just enjoy being here Mom and Dad and she can enjoy having a loving stable home that can be her safe haven. 

  

 
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November 29, 2005, 8:41 am PST

Why?

Why does death bring out the ugly in people???  I had a dear friend die suddenly of a massive heart attack in September and the mud slinging has already started.  The 2 daughters especially are scared to death that one of them might get fifty cents more than her.  My own Mom and Dad are wonderful people and I feel like I already have my inheritance.  My inheritance is all the wonderful memories and funny stories that are beyond price.  

One such funny story is Mom's engagement ring, which I have and wear as my own.  Mom was expecting an engagement ring for her 18th birthday but Dad bought her a gold watch instead, my sister has the watch. Dad took Mom with him to pick out a ring, the ring cost $350 and it took them 3 years to pay it off!!!!  It is obvious that I came from humble beginnings.   Before my Grandma passed she was bedridden and she would work on those "find the word" puzzles but she wanted hers to look neat so she used a ruler to make her lines.  I have her puzzles and they look like little works of art.   My Grandpa was a jolly little Irishman, with very fair skin, he had to wear a hat everywhere or his bald head would sunburn.  I have one of his hats and my sister and brother have one also.  My Grandma was a tiny little lady but she carried a humungous purse!  my mom has her purse which contains her hair brush and a coupon for a discount on new glasses.   Money gets spent and jewlery gets lost why not value the things that are truly priceless? 

 
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November 29, 2005, 8:55 am PST

I can feel your pain

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Greed is a terrible thing. The real tragedy of it is, that you "spend" so much of your life being greedy that when you maybe get the money that you wanted, the money is  worthless because of the life that you've "spent" 

  

You know those women just wanted to get their hands on Grandmas land so they could split it up and have fake nails put on every week, or go to the hairdressers more often.  Which, once the land and money is theirs, they can do with it what they want- but kudos for Gram for holding out on the vultures!!!!! 

  

My Gram was the coolest woman in the world. She has been gone 4 years now and I miss her every damn day, keep her picture on my refrigerator and tell my kids stories  involving her. We live in her house. She kept wanting to sign it over to me, my brother and sister wanted me to have it,and I told them that our  mother would have a fit if she did. So, she left it in my mothers name. Today, after paying rent  to buy for 6 years on the house, (32,400, total) and giving my mother another 30,000 down payment, we are buying the house!!!!!!!!! We will have a 50,000 mortgage on a house which I believe is a mansion of memories, and it was worth every last penny. Jimmy Carter may be the great "peace keeper", but he has a rival in me!!!!! 

My Grandma was my girlfriend, she was a tiny little lady so by the time I was maybe 12 I already towered over her!  she went to heaven 14 years ago and I still have days when I feel like it just happened.  She didn't have anything of "value" to leave me.  But I couldn't care less I will always have my memories of her and the LOUD pants suits she wore when she "went to town".  She only weighed about 85 ounds but she carried a HUMUNGOUS pocketbook. I loved your post it is nice to know someone else doesn't bow down to the almighty dollar.
 
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November 30, 2005, 9:51 am PST

Tell the Truth Ruth!!!

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I can't believe that spoiled girl who wants  a  lexus! It could be how I was brought up, but I've never been impressed by brand names. I'm not sure if her day on the farm is going to get through to her as much as when she doesn't get stuff that costs nearly as much as my rent for free! A purse for 350.00? That's gotta be one damn fine purse, indestructible. Heck, for that price, it should come with money. 

  

I agree w/ Dr. Phil that it's not all her fault, she was brought up this way, spoiled rotten. SHe has no idea how hard it is to earn money.  It may sound very sheltered of me to say this, and it may be the truth, but I never knew people like that existed aside from Paris Hilton, and Simple Life esque television shows. 

  

I am 27, and have paid for my own vehicles, gas, ect for my entire life. My parents helped me out when I needed it, and since then I have helped them out when they needed it. Its what family does, and part of what family is about.  True, I do have some nice things, like my truck ( used), and my rings I've rec'd as gifts. I do not mind paying money for something of quality, something I really want and am willing to work for.  

  

I just don't get it that people can be so materialistic. They are insane to give a girl that young a lexus. Imagine the insurance on that thing? The insurance payments alone would be more than what most people have as a monthly car/truck payment.  

  

Where am I going with this? I don't know, more or less venting, and using this show as a primer on what i do not want to instill in my future children. 

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On the topic of the jock godfather and his band god daughter. Having been in band for many years, I was always made fun of and teased for it. I can be athletic, but I do not enjoy team sports. In my experience, it's way to competitive with in the team itself and not the team working together. Not all athletes act the way that the godfather did on the show, but many of them do. It's a bad stereotype, but it does have some truth. I'm glad that he changed his tune ( pun intended). It was definitely a flashback to watch that segment, and it makes me wonder how many people who made fun of me still feel the same way about band people. Sports can be very taxing, both mentally and physically, but so are many other persuits.  

Growing up my Mom would have liked to have spoiled us, but she couldn't, what little money we had couldn't be spent on treats.  But even at that I had no idea how hard it was to make ends meet, when I graduated high school and worked fast food while I was in college.  I was like HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how did Mama do this and not lose her sanity. 

I had to drive a car that I could afford and it was a BOMB!!!!!!!!  but I learned to work on it and I learned to be self reliant.  I have been in the work force full time since I was 19, I'm 35 now, and I don't think the world owes me living.  The $350 purse made me laugh like crazy, that is what I paid for my first car. 

 
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November 30, 2005, 10:54 am PST

Don't hate me

Anyone rememebr those shampoo commericals where the model would say "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful"?  and you were saying to yourself Oh don't worry honey , there are so many other reasons.  The apprentice chic should take note. 
 
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December 2, 2005, 7:41 am PST

They deserve it!

These beautiful strong ladies deserve every gift they recieved and more.  Picking yourself back up after someone you loved knocks you down is harder than anything in the world, but it is so rewarding 

We are women hear us roar 

  

 
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December 5, 2005, 11:32 am PST

People marry to young

Quote From: hazelann2

What ever happened to staying married? For better or for worse? I've heard say that if Divorce was a virus then there would be an epidemic? I do understand that a person can take so much, and they have to leave , but why can't we communicate before that reaches that point anymore? 

I know I will take a tongue lashing for saying this but, I think most marriages fail because people marry to young.  That is certainly the case with my own parents, Mom was only 18.  What is wrong with getting an education and living on your own and learning to support yourself for a few years before you get married?   

I was an "old maid" when I finally married at 33.  I'm not saying that everyone should wait this long but I was completely grown up and had experienced life I am expecting my first baby, at 35, I certainly won't be the youngest Mom on the playground but I will never have to look back and wonder about the road not traveled. 

 
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December 6, 2005, 12:20 pm PST

Me too

Quote From: bewitched

At least we can thank Oprah for exposing some of the celebrities for the true undersireables they are.  After watching some of the interviews I certainly won't pay money to see a show made by a certain celebrity who doesn't believe in medications that help post partum depression, who goes around jumping on people's furniture.  The media may portray them as HOT but I think NOT.
I wouldn't spit on this "celebrity" if he was on fire.  I would love to tell him this to his face
 

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