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June 12, 2007, 10:39 pm PDT

Just a thought..........

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I agree with you.

My husband and I have been together 18years, two kids two dogs and five cats, we're as "Married " as we are getting, and before anyone gets started, I've heard all the arguments, and they don't make any difference to me.

What I find funny, is it is always blamed on the man it dosen't seem to occur to people that there are women out there that NEVER dreamed of being married as little girls, or who never really thought of marriage as a neccessary way of validating being in Love with someone (I will admit I have the diamond ).

But, we didn't bow to the pressures of society, and to know us, you would never guess we weren't "Married" unless we actually told you, and our kids are happy and well adjusted (as well adjusted as two teens can be hehe), the only difference, I don't share their last name, so what ? there are Married women who keep their names.

I don't really think marriage is neccessary ( if they're going to leave a ring and piece of paper won't stop them) but I do belive if you are going to take the step of either marriage or a Common Law union, the rules are the same, and for heaven's sake be honest, if you don't want to do either then DON'T.

Don't worry I'm not getting started, however....

 

If marriage isn't necessary and you don't believe in it, that's your business, but I find it IRONIC that you refer to your partner? lover? friend? w.h.y.... as your HUSBAND......

 

According to the dictionary, a husband is "a married man; a women's partner in marriage; a man to whom a woman is married". 

 

You may be as married as you're getting but he isn't your "husband" and that's the difference between your man and mine.  I didn't get married to ensure he didn't leave nor did I marry him as a way to validate my love.  I wanted the privilege of growing old with my "husband" AND a happy "marriage" and I didn't think about society - I was 20. 

 

You refer to him as your husband and wear a ring -  of course no one would guess you weren't married :)

 

BTW - Congratulations on 18 years, two kids, two dogs and five cats - I'm at 20 years, two kids, one dog and two cats LOL  and that, my friend, is all that really matters, right?

 

 

 

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September 4, 2007, 6:41 pm PDT

Thank you for writing.

Thank you to all the strong women who have posted their stories here.  I can't imagine what you have been through - I really can't.  I also can't imagine what it would be like to have to walk away from it all... and especially after being abused.  All of  you women are an inspiration and I hope that many who are suffering as you have, will get strength from your stories and leave too.  No one deserves anything less then love and friendship.  Anything other than that is abuse and life is too short to let anyone mistreat you.  Peace.

 

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September 21, 2007, 11:03 am PDT

I'm so sorry

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My son is 22 and his female boss at work came onto him.  Now 2 years later they live together which makes me ill.  She has a son 1 yr younger than my son and just had her first grandbaby.  More than anything it is embarrassing to me as a parent that he has chosen this woman.  Before this he was in college and lived off campus with his girlfriend who dumped him when she graduated.  He left college, came home, got a job and was vunerable to her sexual advances.  He says he feels sorry for her, they really have nothing in common accept his paycheck.  She has serious past history of money woes, bankruptcy and 3 ex husbands. They fight continuely and he has moved out several times.  This last time he didn't take anything but his clothes back with him.  She has him so woven in her web  he will not listen to us so we have just thrown up our hands as parents, my husband says one day he will come to his senses and wonder " what was I thinking."   

 

I am so sorry for what is happening with your son.  It must be very heartbreaking to watch. I can understand why you are embarassed and by a grandmother on top of it all. Keep staying strong with your husband and take care of your marriage.   

 

How dare these older women manipulate a young man like that.  I am an attractive 38 yr old wife who stayed home with the kids.  My youngest is now 15 so I work part-time in the building supplies industry.  (I love renovations).  I am flirted with, daily, by men of all ages. I was kind of shocked to find a lot of young guys sure seem interested - maybe because of the whole M.I.L.F. thing... since American Pie - I don't know. I'm married (17 years - together 20), and happily I might add, to a guy 10 months older..... BUT If I was single I would NEVER EVER consider such a young person.  How disgusting. We are the adults here and we know better. Its basically abuse, to me.  Now as a person matures and gets older, age differences aren't such a big deal, but not when you are still a teenager/early 20's and a young adult.  HOW SICK. And it is up to the adult to put a stop to it - stop being so selfish and think about the consequences LONG TERM for the "child" you are messing with.

 

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September 21, 2007, 11:14 am PDT

09/21 Does Age Matter?

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I AM CONFUSED AS TO WHY DR. PHIL CAME DOWN SO HARD AGAINST THE 38 YEAR WOMAN AND THE 18 YEAR OLD BOY. MEN DO IT ALL OF THE TIME!  AS WAS EVIDENCED BY THE FIRST COUPLE, ADRIENNE AND THE bRADY GUY! WHY NOT BRING FORTH THE SAME HARSH JUDGEMENT FOR THEM? IS IT BECAUSE OF THE SEX DIFFERENCE OR FAME  OR BOTH?
UM you answered your own question.......the woman and the BOY - Men do it all the time that's fine. NOT BOYS its the fact that he's so YOUNG that's the problem and if it was a man and a young girl I'd say the same DAMN thing its child abuse. Nothing less.
 

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April 25, 2008, 11:50 am PDT

I have walked a mile in these shoes

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I am amazed at how many comments have been made so far on a show that has yet to air.  How quickly people are to judge......to assume that I never sought out help for my son before this point......to go so far as to call me a monster.

 

The truth of the matter is that I had no recollection of my own abuse until 6 years ago.....at which time I did cut the ties with my father.......unfortunately the damage had already been done.

 

As far as reaching out for help.......I exhausted every resource I could find in my area.  My son has been seeing counsellors, therapists, and psychiatrists since he was in grade one.  We tried group therapy and even had numerous appointments with the principle of the school he was attending at the time.

 

Turning to the Dr Phil show was simply one more effort on my part to seek out more help.......help that I had been seeking for the past 6 years. 

 

It is sad that the level of understanding is as such.......there are so many agencies out there that help people with addiction, anger management, domestic abuse and so forth.......however when it comes to sexual abuse I have found it more difficult to find the help required......especially for a child.  If you look into some of the amazing programs for children like I have, one of the things that they make very clear is that they will help your child so long as he or she hasn't acted out in unacceptable sexual ways......

 

I recently had an invitation to enroll my son in such a program but after sending in the application, I was told they don't accept a child who has a sexual history such as my sons.

 

Along with seeking out help, I also have been to the police.  I have filled out a written statement as well as a video interview........no action has been taken on the part of the authorities.  I continue to feel like I keep hitting a brick wall.....however, that has not stopped my quest for help, healing and justice.

 

When the shows are aired this week, I hope that people will be able to come away more educated and with more understanding rather than accusations, anger, and finger pointing.

 

Not one of us can really know exactly what we would do if we were in someone else's shoes until we actually walk in them.

I had a very tumultuous relationship with my family over the years.  Suddenly six years ago, my brother was hit by a stray bullet and killed.  Everything (the mental and physical abuse) was forgiven because we had lost my brother.  I had to go 5 hours from home everytime for court to help my parents and support them.

 

I had never stayed overnight at their house since moving out 16 years before.  Imagine my horror when a year later, my 12 year old tells me what my father has done to her while we were at their house - dealing with court for the murder of my brother.  This came up a week before the murder trial was to start.

 

He blamed my daughter who was 11 years old when it started... for seducing him, I never saw my mother, father, brother or sister again - that was five years ago.  They all beat the crap out of my dad and freaked out that night.... but it was time to hide and keep a big secret.  And I... went to the police (who failed us miserably).

 

We healed from this because we never saw them again.  I looked at my Dad and said you will never see her again and I was right.  If I could have got away with it, I would have killed him.  But my love for my husband and children kept me from doing what I most wanted... because he's not worth spending my life in jail for. 

 

By the way, you would never suspect it - my parents are normal middle-class fakers who sit in church every sunday. Believe me that's where the danger is.... right in the family.

 

Today my daughter is 17 and strong  and a community leader - because I believed her... and she never had to see the predator again.  I am heavily involved in the community as well and have started a youth program for ages 12 - 17 - to give teens a place to be safe and accepted.  35 kids showed up at the first meeting.  That's how I healed.  And you can too.

 

 

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April 25, 2008, 12:35 pm PDT

04/24 A Boy in Trouble

I just turned on the tv and this show happens to be on - so further to my previous post.....

 

 

my father was exactly the same... denied it and then when pushed because I believed my daughter and wouldn't let him deny it he admitted and blamed my 11 year old.

 

He said she was a whore just like me.  (One man in my life since 18)  I will never forget the sick and disgusting things he said.  All the while smirking with this supposed belief that he is forgiven and can stand before God - well if that means he's dead than the sooner the better.

 

My stupid mother has stood by this man.  The man who verbally abused her and who we begged her to leave over and over.... guess we don't want the neighbors to see.  Even when he admiited to sexually abusing her only granddaughter - she still shares her home and her life with him.

 

THEY DESERVE EACH OTHER

 

And I deserve a happy life with my family - NO NEGATIVITY

 

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April 25, 2008, 12:45 pm PDT

04/24 A Boy in Trouble

This family looks just like mine..... I AM SO SORRY for you - the mother.... how do you not remember?  I didn't have you Dr. Phil to ask the real questions and maybe you are getting through to her - HE's LYING - throw your wedding rings at him and kick the disgusting creep out.

 

My mom didn't.... she chose to cut me and my wonderful husband and our beautiful children out of  her life - her only grandchildren - and I had already lost a brother - who was tragically murdered - an innocent victim - very traumatic - and then I lost my other brother and my sister too

 

 

BECAUSE OF A SICK IMMORAL LYING PEDOPHILE

 

who chose to abuse his granddaughter while we were at their house for court appearances - THIS IS WHAT A PERSON WITH NO CONSCIENCE DOES

 

I am so devastated by this show

 

OH AND MY DAD HAD PEACE TOO - HE STANDS BEFORE GOD - The pedophile has peace and the rest of the family is completely DEVASTATED

 

 

 

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April 25, 2008, 1:53 pm PDT

04/25 Confronting Grandpa

Quote From: barbee1212

A lot of very tragic stories have been posted on these message boards.  I'm concerned (and yes, concerned, not accusatory or trying to prove anyone wrong) by the number of adults molested as children, who vow that their children will never be left alone one minute with their former abusers.  I just don't think that anyone can be vigilant enough to prevent something like this from happening.  It can only take a second.  I know that these parents want to spare their children the pain they suffered, but this approach seems like playing with fire.  I don't have the answer, if indeed there is one to be had, but cutting ties might be the only way to ensure your children's safety.

That's what I did - CUT TIES - and move away
 

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April 25, 2008, 2:12 pm PDT

04/24 A Boy in Trouble

Also.... just the other day I got a facebook message from my brother best friend.  We hadn't talked since the funeral six years ago.  He goes on in his message to say that no matter what I think my parents may have done its in the bible to respect them and honour them and blah blah blah.  Seems my poor parents are telling people how mean I am and cruel and that for SOME REASON I haven't talked to them in years.

 

When I told him the truth he immediately aplogized and was just devastated to find out what had happened to our little family and my daughter.  And couldn't believe what evil had happened to my family that they would carry on like I was the problem.

 

The truth will always come out.

 

By the way, I had talked to my kids, knew where they were at... all that I was a stay-at-home for my kids.  But you see my daughter knew what grampa was doing and she didn't want my mother to be even more devastated since the murder of my brother.  My little 11 year old tried to protect her grandmother ... and the rest of the family.  Everytime we had to go their house, she would just stay out of grampa's way.  And that pedophile did it when I would go to the bathroom or to the kitchen to get something.... like he was ready to prey at a moment's notice.

 

THANKFULLY I BELIEVE and HAVE FAITH... I believe that there will be justice one day .  And that's what makes me live the best life possible. 

 

Oh and the pedophile apparently had a heart attack.  He faced death (unfortunately they saved him) and still had no remorse.  There are no words for people with no conscience like this.

 

 

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April 25, 2008, 10:42 pm PDT

peterspumpkin and livewire13

Thank you so much for responding.  I've had an emotional day - one show like this and it all comes back.  After I posted a couple of times I got really BRAVE and added my PICTURE.  I hope everyone who has ever known my family sees it and learns the truth. 

 

I have heard over and over from women who's mothers didn't believe them - or protect them - or stayed with the pedophile - just the other day I shared my story and this lady of 60 started to cry and then confided in me her deep dark secret about Uncle Earl and what he did to her when she was 12.  All the girls were warned to stay away from Uncle Earl - the family pedophile.

 

WHY WAS EARL THERE????  At all the "christian" holidays - Christmas and Easter and all that. Why did the children have to stay away from HIM?  He should have been taken deep into the wilderness and dropped off - never to be seen again.  But no... the precious girls of the family spent their holidays getting victimized over and over for years !!

 

Their mother's put all the responsibility on their children to avoid a sick digusting criminal.  HOW UNFAIR AND SICK AND WRONG. 

 

 

 

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