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March 5, 2006, 8:10 am PST

Worry has no power unless you give it power

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Well I seem to have a fear of many things, because like some of you, I too am a worrier...and I am only 19 years old. This can't be getting better with age either. I think I get this worrying thing from my mom, because she constantly worries about so many things. Anyhow, one of my greatest fears are spiders. I don't know when this started or why exactly, but it's so bad that I cannot even stand the sight of them. Sometimes just thinking/talking about them keep me up at night and I can't sleep. I won't even go near a small spider to kill it. Also, my fear of bees has been growing over the past few months, and I think it's because at school I encounter many bees. I have always been afraid of bees, and you know how people tell you not to run from them? Well I did, and it always worked, because I have NEVER been stung before. Well this fear has gotten so bad, that sometimes I dread walking across campus because I know I will encounter bees. I even noticed that they mostly fly around trash cans and I am constantly watching in front of me for bees when I near a trash can. I think it's mostly the pain of the sting I fear, because I have never been stung and I don't know what to expect. I heard one time that we tend to fear the unknown, but I don't think that's always true, because I fear some things that I do know too. But that's a different story. Lastly, another great fear I have is elevators. Once I went up 6 stories of stairs up and down just to avoid an elevator. 6 stories may or may not seem like much, but when you are nearly late to class because you had to take that extra time walking down the stairs instead of using the elevator, it becomes a problem. My main fear is that the elevator would get stuck, because I am somewhat claustraphobic (which I think came from an incident as a child), and feel like I would not be able to breathe. Maybe these are common fears, but I don't know if I am any better or worse than others who have these fears. Does anyone feel the way I do about these fears, and do you think these fears are a real problem? I mean they do keep me up at night sometimes, and I avoid these things and the places they exist, but is this normal for any fear or am I going to the extreme here?

Worry solves nothing.  Worry has no power in and of itself.  Try running your computer with worry.   Try buying groceries with worry.  It is the action or inaction that you take from worry that has power.  

  

 Worry just  results in more worry and starts the downward spiral of depression.   

  

Starting in Oct. 2005 I offered a free CBT course on line.  I have just recently stopped offering the course due to time constraints.   

  

If you click on my user name: "pinetree" it will take you to my profile.  If you click on: " view message board posts from this user"  you will find a handout from my course about:  "Worry".   

  

I would suggest reading other postings there as well. There is one there on the best approach to desensitization.  This will help you with your irrational fears of bees, elevators, etc.  

  

There is also a posting on panic disorder, as well.  

  

If you wish to e-mail me my e-mail address is also there.  

 
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March 12, 2006, 1:46 am PST

Support Group

  

  

Hi everyone,  

  

I have not posted on this board for a while because my main focus has been on anxiety disorders, so I usually post on those boards.  

  

Both my wife and daughter suffer from bipolar disorder.  Theirs is the type that has long cycles of mania and depression.   

  

My son did suffer from generalized anxiety disorder and agoraphobia all his life, age 43 until he overcame it using a home study CBT tape series.  

  

Due to his fantastic success I decided to offer a free CBT course on line starting in October 2005.   

  

I have discontinued offering the course free just recently.   We have people suffering from all the anxiety disorders to bipolar disorder in the group, as well as people like myself who support people suffering from pyschological illnesses.   

  

The course has been very successful and many people have told me that the information has turned their life around.  

  

I am now setting up a support group for people suffering from anxiety and depression and I would encourage you to join if you suffer from anxiety or depression, or are a support person for those suffering from these illnesses.   

  

To reach me simply click on my user name: " pinetree"  and it will take you to my profile page.  There you will find my e-mail address.  

  

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March 12, 2006, 4:48 am PST

Borderline Personality

Hi everyone,  

  

This is the first time I have visited this board.  I have studied anxiety disorders and bipolar disorder for about five years.   

  

I have supported a wife who suffers from bipolar disorder, a daughter who has bipolar disorder and a son who just overcame generalized anxiety disorder and agoraphobia using a home study CBT tape series, after suffering for his entire life of 43 years,  

  

  Luckly I suffer from none of these illnesses.  

  

I looked up "borderline personality disorder" on Goggle and this is the definition I got: 

  

" In psychiatry, borderline personality disorder (BPD) is a personality disorder characterized by extreme 'black and white' thinking, mood swings, emotional reasoning, disrupted relationships and difficulty in functioning in a way society accepts as normal. "  

 

  

 

 

I hate labels.  The problem I see is that if you are labelled incorrectly then you are treated incorrectly.  Psychiatrists love labels, but I suspect often label people incorrectly.   

  

My son was labelled as being bipolar, but in fact suffered severely from generalized anxiety disorder (GAD) , which is a fear of virtually everything.   GAD is an anxiety disorder, and I believe all anxiety disorders are a learned behavior, and as such can be unlearned using cognitive behavior therapy (CBT).  

  

Psychiatrists love to dispense pills and revisit your childhood memories and little else.  Neither did any good for my son.  They simply made him worse.  

  

 Medication does help deal with the symptoms of  anxiety and depression for some, but they will never reprogram the mind to think rationally.  I believe CBT is the fastest and most effective way of reprgramming the brain to remove all the negative false perceptions and beliefs, and replace them with the rational truth permanently.   

  

Starting in October 2005 I offered a CBT course free of charge for people suffering from anxiety and depression.  I just  ended this free course a couple of weeks ago.   

  

People tell me that the course has been very helpful, but I felt something else was needed.  As a result I am organizing a support group for people suffering from psycological illneses.  This is not a pity party.  The purpose is to put into practice what has been learned in the CBT course in a group setting, in a safe environment before using these strategies in the real world.  

  

The group also consists of people who are supporters of people who suffer these illnesses, as well.  

  

If interested click on my user name: "pinetree" .  It will take you to my profile where you will find my e-mail address, and other postings I have put on various message boards.  

  

Pat 

 
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July 19, 2006, 3:51 am PDT

CBT

Hi everyone,    

   

It has been some time since I posted on this message board, but I thought it was time to do so again.    

   

I have offered two free CBT courses on line, and am in the process of setting up a support and therapy chat room.  The course has proven to have been most helpful to a number of people suffering from anxiety and depression.     

   

These courses were free.    

   

For more information click on my user name "pinetree".  This will take you to my profile where you can see other postings I have made and also my e-mail address should you chose to contact me.    

   

Bye for now, Pinetree   

 
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August 29, 2006, 3:03 am PDT

Overcoming anxiety without medication

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Okay, so is there anyone who knows if it's possible to overcome depression without taking any medicine?  I have gone to psychologists in the past for therapy and have tried different medications, the most recent being effexor.  Nothing has worked.  My biggest problem is communicating with my husband.  I am always on the defense with him.  I raise my voice a lot and at times when he questions me about why I am angry or upset,  I can't even remember.  I feel like such a loser.  I don't want to be dependent on medicine just to be happy.  The other thing is that I work in customer service and would treat my coworkers or customers the way I do my husband.  Am I the only clod out there?  I don't know how to fix this.

Hi,

 

My son suffered from generalized anxiety disorder (a fear of everything) for over 40 years.  He has overcome his anxiety using cognitive behavioral therapy. I have offered two free CBT courses on the internet over the last year.  I would strongly suggest that you click on my user name and it will take you to my profile.  You will find several postings I have put on the message board there.  You will also find my e-mail address there as well, if you wish to contact me.

 

All anxiety disorders are learned behaviors and anything learned can be unlearned, and CBT is the fastest and best way to overcome an anxiety disorder. 

 

Medication can be helpful to dull the symptoms of anxiety and depression, but it will never fix the problem because you need to reprogramme you mind, and no medication can do that.  Only you can do it.

 

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October 6, 2006, 7:38 am PDT

Agoraphobia

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I have been suffering from Agoraphbia for 5 years now. I have tried every med availible to me. I am currently on wellbutrine for depression. I have tried CBT and am in therapy weekly.  I feel like I am running out of options.  Everyone seems to have a different view of what causes Agoraphbia.  My therapist thinks it is related to abuse as a child. My doctor thinks its can be treated with medication. The CBT people at the hospital think that I am "choosing the behavor".  Even Dr. Phil asked the Agoraphbic woman in his show "what the pay off was?".  Do people really think that concously or unconcously chosing to be like this?  I am fighting back at this as hard as I can.  I have a 2 year old daughter and I don't want her to suffer because of my "disorder".  I am really in need of help. 

Hi,

 

My son suffered from agoraphobia, and generailized anxiety disorder since childhood, and finally overcame it after 40 years using CBT. 

 

About 5 years ago I gave up hope with the traditional approach to treating anxiety disorders with drugs and started looking elsewhere for answers. 

 

I am totally convinced that anxiety disorders are a learned behavior and anything learned can be unlearned if you know how.

 

I am presently offering a free CBT course on the internet for people suffering from anxiety.  This is the third free course I have offered.  If interested in joining the present group click on my icon "pinetree" and go to my profile page. You will find my e-mail address there. 

 

You will also find various postings I have placed on the message boards as well.

 

My son is living proof that CBT works.  He went from being terrified to leave the house, and as a result being unemployable, to being in partnership with a friend in the construction industry and working every day. 

 

Before CBT his greatestest wish was to go to sleep and never wake up because he seen no future.  Today he gets up with optomism for the future. 

 

Bye for now, Pinetree 

 

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