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January 30, 2006, 2:18 pm PST

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My husband has hinted around that he would like to do something similar.  He doesn't want to keep a mistress, but would rather be allowed to have an affair so that he can experience the things he would really like to do that I won't do for him.  He feels that he if gets them out of his system things will be fine.  He cannot guarantee me that he wouldn't want to keep doing it though.  He swears that if I am not o.k. with it he won't do it, but then he keeps pressuring me to do things that I am just not comfortable with or desire to do.  We have been married along time and I know that I have to help keeps things lively and fresh, but I either do what he wants or allow him to go somewhere else to get it.  What choice do I have?  I am afraid one day he will just grow tired of the same old routine and leave.  His other suggestion is for us to go to a swingers club and pick up another woman.  He says it isn't cheating if we're doing it together.  I asked if he would really want to kiss and have sex with another woman and his answer was yes.  Outside of this we have a happy and wonderful marriage.  He is a great father, wonderful provider and showers me with attention.  He just claims to have such a high sex drive that he needs more than what I am currently offering.  Any suggestions?
 
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January 30, 2006, 8:58 pm PST

02/02 Twisted Love

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I would love to talk to you.  I am the woman on the show Thrusday.  I am new to the message boards, is there a way to send a private message so I can give you my contact information? 
I am also new to the message boards, so I have no idea.  I would really love to talk with you.  Does anyone know how to privately send email information to someone?
 
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January 31, 2006, 2:47 pm PST

02/02 Twisted Love

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I wish Dr Phil wouldn't present these issues in such a sensational fashion.  There are LOTS of couples who have chosen to have a non monogamous marriage and many of them are quite responsible and sensible.  It is successful with good communication and very committed people. 

  

Polyamoury isn't dirty or slutty.  Polyamory ISN'T cheating.  It is a choice that BOTH a husband and wife make.  If one party is sneaking around or is forcing the choice on the other spouse, it really can't be considered polyamory or polyfidelity just as a "shotgun" wedding ceremony isn't a valid marriage.  Consent must be honestly and freely given. 

  

When my husband and I met, we were in our teens.  We knew that we wanted to spend our lives together but neither one of us wanted to have our relationship become a prison. We've been married 22 years so far without any big problems.  We have never separated, never needed marriage counselling and never needed to take antidepressants.  We discuss our desires and needs openly and we both want each other's happiness first and we are both willing to make the sacrifices necessary to get there. Sometimes, that has meant including another person-smile-they weren't all female. 

  

We do not have an open marriage nor are we polyamorous right now because we just needed that at this point in our lives because of health, kids and career issues.  It may last forever or we may make changes. 

How do you handle jealousy?  It is a human experience that we all feel.  I understand that they say there is a difference between sex and marriage, but I guess I am just not that with it.  My husband's arms are meant to hold me, not another woman.  His kisses and his gazes should be a gift for me, not shared with someone who doesn't care for him, raise his children, or clean up his dirty underwear!  I want to do all I can for his happiness and I understand that they may mean sacrificies along the way, but I am struggling with the idea to just say "Go ahead, find another woman."  Don't you worry that he will fall in love with her too?  Can you really happily share your husband with another woman? 
 
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February 1, 2006, 1:13 pm PST

02/02 Twisted Love

Quote From: judyblue22

It is really really difficult to tell people the secret needs and desires one has. So many people have repressive, guilt ridden feelings about their own sexuality and feel that being open and honest about their sexuality would make them unlovable.  Your partner took the big risk of telling you the things he would really like to do-that is really scary in a relationship.  Have you told him YOUR secrets too? 

  

Once you know what each of you desire, then it is just a matter of negotiating ways to meet those desires. There are lots of options, from role playing to trading nights to opening your marriage to others. If you both are committed to making each other happy, you can find a solution.  

  

We have developed some rules for problem solving communications that help us find answers to our problems:  

  1. It is important to understand each other well-to know where each other's sensitivities are.  When you are calm and reasonable is the time to talk about your triggers and how they affect you. It is hard to tell someone the doubts and fears that trigger insecurity. After all...you are insecure about them.  This step is hard but it is important. You can agree that you will always be sure not to touch on certain things. You want to communicate not wound.
  2. It is best to wait until anger and upset fades to discuss relationship issues. Set a meeting time for when you will be rested, relaxed and not rushed. Sometimes we prepare for a communication meeting by making love :)
  3. The first step is for both of you to identify the problems. Be prepared for your partner's problem(s) NOT to be the same as yours. At this meeting, make it your goal to completely understand all aspects of HIS problem and have him try his best to understand yours.
  4. You are trying to understand here-not defend yourself or blame the other. Don't do any 'historical' talks. Looking backwards with blame or recriminations is pointless and wastes precious time and emotional energy. You may want to skewer him with exactly WHY you have been cold and distant, but focus instead on defining the problem from his point of view and understanding his needs and explaining your own to him.
  5. Once you are able to explain to him his problem to him and he can do the same for you-you understand the problem(s). Now take a break of 2-3 days. You have to digest the information and get over any anger or hurt that arose thus far. This is the crucial step-don't rush to solutions.
  6. Once you feel ready to meet again,  brainstorm for ideas that will solve the problems. The only rule with this phase is that you have to solve all of the problems, not just your own. Don't evaluate the answers, just generate them.  Dream here, make the perfect answers, make ugly answers, make up any answer that solves the problems. The answer you don't say because it is stupid may just be the idea he needs to hit on a good solution.
  7. Take some time to explore the options. Check out the costs, available resources, think about them, maybe consult anyone that might be affected.
  8. Then choose one solution to try out. Give yourselves a time period to try out this solution-a day, a week , a month.  After the time is up, meet to evaluate how it worked.

I really appreciate what you said here.  You are totally right that it took a lot for my husband to open up and tell me what he is thinking.  What I decide to do with it is unknown to me right now, but I need to tell him I am thankful he feels that comfortable with me to share his most intimate thoughts and fantasies.  My initial reaction was probably more hurtful than helpful, and the last thing I want to do in our marriage is slam the door on a line of communication he was trying to open. 

  

Your advice is very good and I am going to follow it.  I appreciate all the websites everyone has put out there.   I have looked at quite a few.  I still feel that I am a monogamous person and will probably not come around to the idea of anything like poly.  I do however think I could come around to other solutions like other people have mentioned-i.e. role play, etc.  Thank you all for sharing your ideas and stories.   

 
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February 2, 2006, 11:44 am PST

02/02 Twisted Love

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A few years ago my husband decided we would go outside the marriage to have fun,  since he said our sex life was boring.  He pushed and pushed until I did with his best friend,  and another girl.  Now about two years later he says he can't get it out of his head ,  and wiil never forgive me for going along!!!  and dosen't want me anymore.  He is having an affair.  He works with her and brought her to my NY Eve pary, they were caught making out in the laundry room.  He was hanging all over her infront of about 40 people.  Including ME!!  Last night we went to dinner sat at the bar at chillis( so things couldnt be too intimate)  He starts hitting on a girl beside him,  flirting like crazy in front of me and my teenage son.  HE EVEN GOT HER PHONE # right in front of me.  The as she was leaving she dropped her purse and of course he jumped to get it,,  THEN he gave her a big hug and a kiss,   WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!!!!  i'M SO HURT  and Angry.   I dont know what to do now.  Kick him out???  My boys will be devestated with out there DAD!  We agree on everything but sex.....  He has never been satisfied with normal sex life.  Please help out there,,, Trashed
Oh, Bless your heart.  I am so sorry that this is happening to you.  Your husband is being a complete #*!@&!!!  I have no anwers when it comes to how to understand a man who goes outside his marriage.  Unfortunately, mine is fantasizing about doing just that.  In your situation I would say your husband is trying to hurt you on purpose.  His actions prove he wants to either make you jealous, make you the one who leaves (therefore being the bad guy who left, not him) or prove to you how "desireable" he is.  I know you have children and that you worry about them not having there dad, but don't.  By leaving him you are not taking away their father from them.  They can and should still have a relationship with him.  But what you must do is show them that you are not a rug for him to wipe his feet on.  You have respect for yourself as a woman and they need to know how a woman should be treated.  You deserve happiness.  If you don't take care of yourself, then how can you be the best mother you can be.  Don't stay for them, you are doing no one any favors.  Tell this SOB where to go and do it fast.  Trust me, what comes around goes around.  Remember, it is best to be alone for the right reasons, than with someone for the wrong ones.  Good luck-I will pray for you.
 
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February 3, 2006, 5:15 am PST

Is it Unusual?

Is is unusual for a man to fantasize about being with other women other than his wife of having a threesome with her?  If he asks for it and you say no and he is o.k. with that, is it a red flag for future behavior or simply a common male thought?  I am just trying to figure out if my husband's thoughts are normal or if they are something I should really be concerned with.  Don't most husbands stare at other beautiful women or enjoy the site of naked women (ie on a show or the Victoria Secret's magazine)?  It is not like he goes crazy, but he will comment like she looks good or she has a nice figure.  That is just typical, right?
 
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February 3, 2006, 7:15 am PST

02/02 Twisted Love

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 Please feel free to email me.......If anyone gets the message from the show and would like to share your possitive thoughts (please no nasty emails) ...I went on the show and am getting counceling.  Dr. Phil put the brakes on my train.   I have made mistakes and I admit it.  Tracy & I are getting the best help available. Thanks for all of you comments...............Charles

Charles- 

  

I am glad to hear you are getting counseling.  I will pray that you and Tracy get the help you need and the healing process can begin.  Cherish her and be thankful for her, she obviously loves you.  Remember to not confuse love with lust.  Your mistress did not truly love you or she wouldn't have accepted your attention.  And you chose to seek your own personal happiness rather than face the problems in your marriage.  Your wife however, has stayed by your side.  I realize that it takes two people to make a marriage work and I am sure she has her faults in what was happening in your marriage before the affair, but your way of fixing it wasn't right.  Show your boys the true man you are.  Permanently ditch the mistress and any other woman that might catch your fancy, and rebuild your love.  Remember that you will probably have to apologize a thousand times or more before she can forgive, but be happy to do so.  Put yourself in her shoes and you will see the long journey you have ahead of you to regain her trust, passion, and love.  Best of luck! 

 

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