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There is enough room in all our hearts to reach out and help the survivors of Katrina, as well as, victims of crime, of missing persons, and victims of terrorism, and so forth. Like many, I have given money to various relief charities, Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc., and tomorrow I begin volunteering to help the survivors/evacuees of Katrina.I find the news of missing people and victims of crime very upsetting. It feels as though everyday we hear of another child, female, young mother and so forth, "is missing." It is aweful. Whether it is Natalee Holloway, Latoya Figuerora, Julie Popovich and countless others, my heart goes out to all of them. Although many of us feel helpless, thank goodness for Joe Mamanna and the fact he is helping Beth! [Dr. Phil I hope Joe will be included in your show] Just as he is helping the survivors of Katrina, just as he helped with the cases of the above mentioned "missing" and countless others!!!! No wonder they call him the Angel of Philly!! If you haven't heard of him, google search Joe Mamanna.Lastly, my thoughts and prayers are with everyone on this day, September 11th. I will never forget that day, never forget the courage of the NYPD, the fire fighters, every hero and brave soul, and will continue to pray for peace and compassion. IS ARUBA’S GOVERNMENT COVERING UP AGAIN??????Posted on 2005-07-01http://www.savesannicolas.com/articles.php?news_id=3 IS ARUBA’S GOVERNMENT COVERING UP AGAIN?????? The Minister of “Justice” in Aruba by the name of Rudy Croes has every opportunity to question the Holloway investigation to assure that there is justice in Aruba even against the people that he did favors for and those he received favors from (the Dutch judicial officials) . Aruba is in a very difficult situation and this is not because of the American press, the Holloway case and most definitely not because of a web site by the name of “to hell with Aruba.com.” Aruba is going through an extremely difficult period because of a very nasty and corrupt government that owes favors to the different departments of the judicial system. The current government in Aruba, MEP has serious problems with the Dutch justice department yet they can not take a stand and voice their concerns due to the favors that they received over the years. The MEP government is maliciously leaking out information to the press about the Dutch police commissioner Jan van der Straten instead of confronting him or any other member of the justice department to ensure that there is no cover up in the investigation of the Holloway case. The minister of justice, the political party MEP and the Dutch judges are portraying their impartiality by bringing in a judge from a different Island to rule over the case yet the officials that are preparing the investigation are all friends and family of the suspect. How impartial is this?? Those who are preparing the investigation/case have access to all declarations, forensic reports, suspects and suspects family. Several reports by the international press have proven that the van der Sloot family is very close to the investigating team (The Dutch prosecutors office) . The habitual partiality has been demonstrated in the past with several cases, one case in particular stands out. The case of Alexander Mathew against a Dutch government official, Ben Vocking whom now goes by the name of Ben King . In this particular case documents disappeared, forensic reports were over looked and witnesses were denied, these documents were in the favor of Alexander Mathew. Paul van der Sloot is a high ranking official in the judicial system and is close friends with Ben King, whom now works at the prosecution office. Mr. King was reportedly seen visiting Paul van der Sloot at his home when the Arubian police were performing a search of the van der Sloot residence. Mr. Mathew’s entire case was tampered with. Mr. King said that his friend Paul van der Sloot helped him in the Mathew case. How many cases has and will Paul van der Sloot help cover up?? Mathew was isolated for two years and eight months to ensure that the truth would not surface. The Arubian press and the minister of justice, Rudy Croes played a large roll in the defamation of his character to justify his isolation. Now that the truth has surfaced, certain politicians and senators have raised concern that this corruption will repeat itself in the Holloway case and justice will not be served. The minister of justice Rudy Croes is attacking Alexander Mathew, the politicians and the senators in the local newspapers based upon lies. The minister of justice is even accusing Mr. Mathew of owning the website “to hell with Aruba. Com”, this is a false accusation that is being supported by the Arubian newspaper “Bon Dia Aruba”. Mathew states that the government and the prosecution department is corrupt and is harming the Holloway family and the entire Arubian population. If the Holloway case had been investigated appropriately from the beginning it would have been resolved by now and Aruba would not still be suffering. The Holloway family must be aware of the corruption that encompasses the Arubian government and judicial system so that they can obtain the appropriate international aid to assist in the search for the truth, justice and most importantly their daughter Natalie. THE GOVERNMENT AND PROSECUTION OFFICIALS SHOULD OFFER TO TAKE A LIE DETECTOR TEST. Assure the world that there is no cover up in the Natalie Holloway case. Help clear Aruba’s name.

Surpressing San Nicolas And Its People: Discrimination Exposed Posted on 2005-06-14 http://www.savesannicolas.com/articles.php?news_id=1 Surpressing San Nicolas And Its People: Discrimination Exposed EAST GREENWICH, R.I./EWORLDWIRE/June 14, 2005 --- White pretty girl from Alabama, U.S.A. disappeared in Aruba May 30,2005 - Last seen with white Dutch boy belonging to a very powerful and influential family that is well-connected to the head of the heads of the justice department in Aruba. All evidence that could have been accumulated to keep the white suspect detained was ignored and overlooked solely because the white man's word weighs more than the black man's word. "If you are a white Dutch suspect in Aruba, you can easily be turned into a witness as long as you point your fingers to a black man/Arubian," says Edwardo Mathew. Mathew is uniquely suited to provide commentary on the situation. A native of Aruba who served a sentence at the KIA correctional facility in Aruba from 2001 to 2004, it is widely believed that Mathew was wrongfully convicted. His case is currently being heard before the European Court of Human Rights. The laws governing Aruba reflect a customary practice of unequal and discriminatory treatment reminiscent of the 1800's when blacks had no rights in society. "How can Natalee's family find justice in Aruba if there is no justice under the Arubian Dutch laws?" asks Mathew. "No man in a civilized country or island anywhere in the world should be held in prison for kidnapping and murder or any other crime by a public prosecutor behind closed doors - yet the public in Aruba is not allowed to receive information. Why?" The Dutch have most often attempted to portray their disposition as strong advocates of human rights, which stands in stark contrast to a legal system that can hold a suspect without bail for 116 days or more with little or no evidence in a four foot by four foot cell - without a mattress, accompanied by rat and cockroach infestation. The Dutch/ Arubian justice system permits cases to be heard behind closed doors, providing free reign by the public prosecutor to withhold and/or tamper with information. The Dutch legal system allows judges and prosecutors to function without checks and balances - rulings may be swayed in any direction or favor that suits them personally. "The world should be concerned about this mysterious case as it clearly poses a personal concern for the Dutch public prosecutors and friends," states Mathew. If there was a crime committed, the American family of Natalee Holloway is looking for justice and not for the innocent black or white man to pay for a crime he did not commit. "The overriding question is - can justice prevail in Aruba if those who are in charge of enforcing justice have a personal stake in the outcome?" adds Dr. Arianna Mathew, wife of Edwardo Mathew and American citizen. "The appropriate course of action would be for Prime Minister Nelson Oduber to step aside and permit the FBI to lead the investigation in full to prove to the world that Aruba is doing everything to seek equal justice as mistakes have already been made by initially releasing the three boys and holding the two black men." As the current government, MEP reportedly stated in the Arubian national media that the Dutch judges are not to be trusted. "We must remember that the Netherlands, 'The Dutch,' for personal reasons held onto their slave trade 15 years after it had been abolished by using this same Dutch legal system," concludes Dr. Arianna Mathew. "Based on the legal system's past patterns and history - can we trust this system now?"

http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138459&tid=aparubamissingteen&sid=37138459&mid=75346 Article on "to hell with aruba.com" - ARUBA ISSUE & LINKS #3 EVERYONE CHECK OUT THE ISSUES & LINKS & INFORMATION ON TOHELLWITHARUBA.COM A Smugglers' Paradise The Intercon Financial Bank on Aruba is represented by the law-firm Croes & Wever. One of the partners is former Minister of Justice Hendrik Croes. The firm's trust-company Arulex was implicated in setting up the bank. ""Yes, we are involved with that bank"," says Croes. ""We still handle all their legal affairs, but we don't know anything of their financial accounts"." (70) Hendrik Croes – a brother of the island's legendary leader, the late Betico Croes who guided Aruba to its semi-independent status in the Dutch realm – is one of the leading political figures on the island. He led several election campaigns for the MEP, now in the opposition. The Croes Family has been accused of ties with Cuntrera-Caruana. The Sicilian mafiosi payed for a trip of another brother, Rudy Croes (who succeeded Hendrik as Minister of Justice in a previous MEP government) as party secretary to a meeting of the Socialist International in Turkey. This has not been denied. Paolo Cuntrera visited the island regularly despite his expulsion in 1988. The government opposed his legal actions for re-admittance. But Hendrik Croes has to admit the procedures were not stainless. A blundering government lawyer, an official who signed a residence permit 'by mistake', meant that "de facto" Paolo Cuntrera was able to circulate freely on the island. According to Canadian police reports, in 1978, Pasquale Cuntrera owned the Holiday Inn Casino – although the registers indicated otherwise. ""At the start of 1980s the Cuntrera's were often at the Holiday Inn casino"," says a croupier. ""In 1989 they were there again, although they were ostensibly thrown of the island"." DEA agent David Lorino, the case-officer in Operation Wiseguy, claims that ""when the Cuntrera's moved to Venezuela they carried some 15 to 30 million dollars with them, which were invested in hotels in Caracas, but also on Curaçao and Aruba"." 71 The DEA had used the Miami-based Italian-born Venezuelan business man Raffaele Bellizzi to contact Pasquale Cuntrera. Before 1983 Bellizzi owned a shipping-company, but that year it went bankrupt because of the debt-crises in Venezuela. ""He told us that his ships transported narcotics and money from Caracas to Aruba and Europe","says Lorino. As mentioned before Canadian investigations show that the clan used Aruba as a trampoline for cocaine to North America. (72) According to Lorino, ""the names Cuntrera and Caruana were well known on the island"." Now nobody on Aruba wants to know that these gentle and well mannered Sicilians ever existed. ""Oh, but a lot of people knew them then","says Bianca de Mey, who set up the company "Investeringen Tweehonderd en Tien", which was the holding for a nightclub and pizzeria for the Cuntreras. The company now has nothing to do with them any more, she adds. The Cuntrera's must have felt at home on Aruba. The island has been a smugglers' paradise, since colonial times, when it was used to evade the Spanish trade monopoly. Whatever disagreements Arubans may have – and they have a lot – this is something they readily admit. Even Prime Minister Eman acknowledges ""it is an island of smugglers ... For years Aruba was the most important coffee exporter, while there is no coffee-plant to be found on the island"." Aruba is also the biggest exporter of Philip Morris cigarettes and every imaginable kind of whisky. On Aruba it is all imported and exported according to the rules. What they do at the other side on the South American mainland is not the problem of the islanders. Legal trade or contraband, the difference is thin. ""A lot of families became very rich with this trade","says Eman.

To Beth and the family and friends of Natalee, Good For You. Just as you are not giving up, we are not giving up either!!! Our thoughts and prayers have been with you and will remain with you. We pray and hope for the return of Natalee, safe and sound. Thank you so much Dr. Phil!!!! We will be watching your show on Thursday. Article in Bon Dia yesterday and posted on Scared Monkeys today:Mother of Natalee Holloway Moves Back to The United States, But Will Be in Aruba Every WeekORANJESTAD- Beth Twitty is back in Aruba, but tomorrow already she’ll go back to Alabama. Nevertheless, as she told American media, she’ll be coming to Aruba regularly to see what is happening with the investigation. Even more, it is her intention for her to come back every week.The mother of Natalee Holloway is disappointed in the judicial system of Aruba. She does not hide this thought, not even for the local press anymore. Beth Twitty says that based on the comments that she saw, declarations of the three suspects that she read, that she finds it totally impossible for a judge to suspend the detention of Joran van der Sloot and the siblings Satish and Deepak Kalpoe. Even more, the lady told Bon Dia Aruba that the suspects were set free, just when they were starting to talk against each other.Beth was met in her suite at the Wyndham Hotel, the suite that was her house for all these times. She is going to send the majority of her things back to Alabama, and she herself will return to Aruba “every week for a few days”, only with a suitcase. She already has a good understanding with the management of the hotel, who will keep on giving her accommodations.Mrs. Twitty said that she saw the documents signed pa the three suspects, where specifically Joran van der Sloot admitted to have had sexual relations with Natalee, while the youngster [Natalee] was going in and out of unconsciousness. This according to the mother of Natalee Holloway is sufficient to show that Joran had sexual relations with the youngster [Natalee] without her consent, and as such, she thinks Joran must be sentenced for this. “This is rape”, Mrs. Twitty said.The mother of the youngster of Birmingham, Alabama does not talk of murder , but she is convinced that a crime took place, based on the declarations of the the three suspects. “I can’t say with assurance that Joran killed her,but I think that I have enough motive to think this. And my lawyer said, that on September 1st, the suspects were not denying that a crime had been committed.Documents that she had access to, according to his own declaration, show that Joran van der Sloot changed his story at least 4 times, and not twice as he declared during his interview with Exclusive [local news show and news magazine –Arubagirl].Beth Twitty also says that she isn’t saying that Natalee didn’t drink alcohol during this trip. But “Natalee had the age to drink. She was 18 years old, and she didn’t break any laws Joran did break the law, by being in a night club, in a casino without having the age.”I’m Not Staying Quiet AnymoreBeth Twitty said that she has a lot of information and out of respect for the Investigative Corps, she didn’t talk. But now she has no trust anymore. For two weeks already, she has no contact with Karen Janssen, who also gave the order to Eric Soemers to avoid talking to the family of Natalee. “It was very hard to stay professional, and to keep informations confidential. But now I can’t say quiet anymore. Why was I protecting the integrity of this investigation?” the lady said, adding that the police ignored many aspects of this case, that eventually hindered the investigation. All these constant errors, make her think about a ‘cover-up’ and she is keeps on thinking this.The lady tells that where there were mistakes made, starting with her own declaration taken by the police, the night that they went to Joran’s house at Montanja. Beth Twitty tells that she signed a document of her declaration and trusted that everything would be right. The document was in Dutch. After a time she was able to get copies, and sent these to the U.S. to be translated. And when the translation arrived, three days later, she lady noticed that the declarations were not what she had given.Beth Twitty has heavy criticism against the Aruba judicial system, but does not know who to blame. She is aware that the judges make the decisions, but she thinks that there is inconsistencies in the documents, as it was the case in her own declarations, and these make it so that the judges took the decision to suspend the detention.On the other hand, both lawyer Anthony Carlo and Joran van der Sloot insist that there was not a change in declaration, except the first time when he lied that he left Natalee at the Holiday Inn Hotel. Also, Joran insists that he is innocent, and that he hopes that the investigation can go on so that he show that he is free of guilt.Pressure of the United StatesBeth Twitty stands on the fact that Aruba authorities took advantage of Katrina and its effects on the United States to let the three youngsters go, since it was known that the attention of the U.S. media would be on New Orleans and other areas. Just like she also criticizes the fact that the DTZ [Department of Technical Affairs] suddenly raised the price for a ’satellite up link’ from $800 to $4000. She feels that these were attempts of Aruba to chase the American press away.Also, she herself has received a call from one of the members of the Strategic Group (she did not mention specific names, but she did talk about John Paulie, Bob Dilella, and Steve Cohen), that asked her “what day will you finally leave Aruba.” This question created a determination that Twitty must keep on coming.And this time she has another group that will help her in her search, Joe Mamanna. Mamanna is a philanthropic millionaire, who believes in vengeance and said in the U.S., that “hell will come with him to Aruba.” When Beth Twitty was asked what she thinks this makes Arubans think, she answered: “I cannot comment on what other people think.”

The arrogance and hubris of the courts and the LE in Aruba is overwhelming and unsupportable.I refuse to support it with my money and urge everyone to do the same. THANK YOU AND I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE! WE SUPPORT YOU BETH!!

Beth told Geraldo that she has seen copies of interrogation transcripts in which Joran admitted to having sex with Natalee while she lapsed in and out of consciousness. That is rape, and is covered as such by laws in every civilized country of the world.THANK YOU, I TOO FEEL THAT IS RAPE. IT NEVER, EVER WAS CONSENSUAL SEX. YET JORAN WAS RELEASED, WAS "INSTANTLY" ATTENDING UNIVERSITY AT THE INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL IN THE HAGUE, NETHERLANDS just as the KALPOES WERE RELEASED TOO.............. SHAME ON YOU JORAN, SHAME ON YOU PAULUS, SHAME ON THE KALPOE BROTHERS, SHAME ON THE ARUBAN AUTHORITIES/GOVERNMENT!!!!############################BETH WE SUPPORT YOU!! WE HOPE & PRAY NATALEE WILL BE RETURNED TO YOU SOON & JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED!!

FOR ALL OF US IN SUPPORT OF NATALEE, TAKE SOME TIME TO READ THE INFORMATION ON SCAREDMONKEYS.com as well as RIEHL WORLD. THANKS............... Dave Holloway; Steady and Even Keeled by Scared Monkeys According to the Dave Holloway during my telephone conversation with him, he appeared that his thought process when dealing with the prosecution of the suspects in his daughters disappearance is to “stay the course”. Dave Holloway said to me that he was upset that Joran Van der Sloot, and the Deepak brothers were released from prison. He was a bit skeptical of the timing of the release as many eyes were turned. However, he made it very clear that this is a long race and it is not over. When asked about the case and whether things were going fast enough for him, Dave’s response was as follows: “We have two years to do something and gain evidence if this is a murder case. The prosecution better have the evidence to go forward to try the case or wait until they do. I do not want this to be a mock trial and there be double jeopardy if there is no real evidence. I do not want the Prosecution to jump to any conclusions because they feel they have to do something.” Dave Holloway was also quick to say that he appreciated all that Scared Monkeys has done in keeping the story of his missing daughter front and center and the thoughts and prayers that have been expressed. I also asked Dave Holloway about whether he had any concerns over the fact that the media is not covering Natalee’s story much any more if not at all in some cases. Dave said, “Its not about the media, it’s about Natalee. I know the news coverage comes in cycles and maybe they will come back again to covering Natalee. Some have called me and said they have not forgotten us.” Dave then went on to tell me that he completely understands the media’s pressures of covering the news and if it were not for the media in the beginning this all could have been swept under the rug. Dave then went on to say, “with or without the media we will find Natalee.” Then Dave made a rather interesting observation that was rather revealing. Red, I think that this case may be solved through the internet. There are so many people who may know others and have information to evidence. So many may have some type of knowledge that may bring a break to the case. In many respects I agree with Dave on this one as blogs have not just repeated MSM stories in the Natalee Holloway case, they have actually broke news before the MSM. Scared Monkeys has taken an active role in personally helping a family in need. What ever way it plays out lets just hope that we find Natalee Holloway. Dave Holloway’s email address is HELPFINDNATALEE@COMCAST.NET to send pertinent information to help solve the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Update: The concept of double jeopardy in Dutch law. Although there is no double jeopardy there are limitations. ” (…) But unlike the double jeopardy prohibition in the UK and the US, Dutch law allows the prosecution to appeal for a second trial if it can produce new evidence.”

FOR ALL OF YOU IN SUPPORT OF NATALEE, PLEASE TAKE SOME TIME TO READ THIS, READ RIEHL WORLD as well as SCARED MONKEYS. you will find helpful information also on HYSCIENCE, JORANVANDERSLOOT.blogspot.com From Dave Holloway Comments at SM http://www.riehlworldview.com/ At SM. Just saw this and wanted to comment on it for informational purposes, only. I haven't spoken to Dave myself. The prosecution better have the evidence to go forward to try the case or wait until they do. I do not want this to be a mock trial and there be double jeopardy if there is no real evidence. There is no double jeopardy - actually I believe the opposite is the case under Dutch Law. Not only can a defendant appeal a guilty verdict, the prosecution can appeal a verdict of innocent to a court of review. I've said I wasn't abandoning this story and I'm not - but I haven't been able to find out anything substantive to report. And I continue to adher to a policy of not intruding on the family. My last contact with Dave and Robin, other than forwarding some info, was when I requested a short note to the commenters and readers here thanking them for their support. Hurricane Katrina hit right after that and I've assumed they've been dealing with other pressing issues and I haven't elected to intrude. You can find information available to offer suport to the family's efforts at the top of every discussion forum. Please consider helping then continue the search for the truth - whatever it may be. Posted by Dan @ Riehl World

I would like to express that my thoughts and prayers and support remain with the victims and their friends & family RE: Natalee, Latoya, Julie, and countless, countless others. THIS HAS TO STOP!!! EVERYDAY WE HEAR OF ANOTHER FEMALE/MALE BEING a VICTIM OF CRIME, CHILD SEX SLAVERY/TRADE, KIDNAPPED, DISAPPEARED, ABUSED, RAPED,DRUGGED BY DATE RAPE DRUGS LIKE ROHYPNOL, DATE RAPED, INFECTED WITH HIV/AIDS AS A RESULT OF RAPE, MOLESTED, MURDERED, and so on. When Oprah said" this makes me mad, this makes me so mad! " during her show on Hurricane Katrina, I could sympathize with her, Hurricane Katrina & the way the disaster survivors of Katrina were/are being treated made me MAD TOO! ################## And this, all these victims of these crimes, makes me JUST as mad and wanting to help! #######################ALL OF THIS HAS TO STOP & WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP & LEND SUPPORT#################### THEN I READ THIS ARTICLE, AND THIS TOO MAKES ME MAD, MEANING WANTING TO HELP & LEND SUPPORT! Children Found In CagesHmmm ... www.riehlworld.comWAKEMAN, Ohio – Sheriff's deputies removed 11 children from a home where they were locked in cages less than 3½ feet high, authorities said.The Gravelles said a psychiatrist recommended they make the children – ages 1 to 14, with conditions that included autism and fetal alcohol syndrome – sleep in the cages at night.Some of the cages were rigged with alarms, Sommers said; others had heavy furniture blocking their doors. The children didn't have blankets or pillows. One of the boys said he'd slept in the cage for three years, Sommers said.Sommers said there were no apparent signs the children had been malnourished or beaten, but they were sent to a hospital for examination. Their conditions were not available Monday.

Dave, Robin, Beth, Jug and all - WE SUPPORT YOU & STAND BESIDE YOU. To RWV Readers, Natalee Forum Commenters and Supporters of The Holloway Family As mentioned here earlier today, this letter was in the works when Hurricane Katrina struck the South. Frankly, I requested it, not for myself, as I have received more than enough attention, email and web traffic as a result of this terrible tragedy; I requested it on behalf of the many who read and comment here, or have possibly supported the family through numerous links to donations and information. I responded with a brief note acknowledging the many thoughts and prayers I'm certain are with them, especially for having had to endure yet one more storm during this time. This ones for you, guys. Dan, Just a few weeks ago, Robin and I received an early morning telephone call from the FBI advising the Kalpoe brothers and another person were taken into custody. Our hopes for a possible resolution were at an all time high. A couple of days later, Hurricane Katrina hit the gulf coast and subsequently hit our community with Category 1 force winds. Our community had considerable damage, however, our home only received minor damage. Our sister state and neighbors to the south were not as fortunate. Many lost everything! Our power was out for a number of days and we recently received limited phone service and cable. Both Robin and I were disappointed in the recent decision of the judge to release the suspects. It is almost like we are at square one again and our backs are to the wall, or, on the floor. We will have to focus on the long term and although we have been dealt a blow, the time period to file charges is two years. We desire the investigation continues until we have satisfactory evidence for the prosecutor to make a case for the charges filed. We will continue to support the efforts of the police, FBI, prosecutor and any other authority, or PERSON (s) that can assist in resolving this case. PERSON (s) will possibly be the most important piece of the puzzle! As the clock ticks, the most probable break will be from someone who was a witness, or has a tip or lead. Robin and I wish to take this opportunity to thank all of your readers and members of the forum in keeping this case active! If there is someone out there that has information, please let us know at Helpfindnatalee@comcast.net. Thanks! Dave & Robin