Messages By: honeyeight

This guy, Wade, is at the very least a sociopath and most likely a psychopath with murderous intent!  I am anxiously awating the 3 episodes of this situation; however, after seeing the commercials and reading the synopsis for each episode; Michelle and her children need to get out while the gettin's good!

Wade seems to be a ticking time bomb and I certainly wouldn't want to be there when he goes off!  He'll make the atom bomb look like a firecracker!

As you may be able to tell; I have very strong feelings about this situation without even seening the episodes yet.  In my book; once a cheater, always cheater.  Also, an abusive man or woman as well as a possible murderer, don't change their stripes!  (Being a fellow native Texan, I am quite sure that Dr. Phil understands my analogies.)

I am awaiting these episodes with bated breath.  I know that Dr. Phil can virtually perform miracles and I feel that he is Michelle's only hope at this point.   I just hope that she grows a brain in time to save her life and the lives of her children!

Do your thing Dr. Phil!!!  We're counting on you!

I was the first to post a message on this board...before the 3 episodes even aired.  There was a reason for that.  Michelle and her 4 children are in MORTAL DANGER.  After watching all 3 episodes, I am even more convinced of this than before.

There have been many posts mentioning that Michelle is co-dependent.  I am not a psychiatrist, however, I could NOT disagree more!  She is scared beyond belief!  Scared for herself and for her children, as well she should be.

I was married for 17 years to a man who was a drug addict AND a porn addict.  I gave birth to three sons with this man because I was not aware of his addictions for several years.  Maybe I should have listened to my "little voice" instead of thinking I could change him.

I left him 3 different times...the first time he convinced me to come back after only one day, the second time lasted almost a week and the third time was the charm.  I actually took a vacation day, had movers come to take a few things out of the house and move them into the apartment I had rented.  Then I filed for divorce.

I am ashamed to say that I did not take my 3 boys (11, 13 & 15 at the time) because I felt that he needed to learn how to be a father instead of trying to be the boys' best friend.  No matter what I said to them, they knew they could go to their dad and he would tell them what they wanted to hear.  I thought they would be OK with him since his mother lived with us and would be there to help take care of them.

Then I received a call from my middle son at 6:30am on Dec 15, 1992.  He was so hysterical that I could hardly understand him.  However, I did understand "MOM!  DAD'S DEAD!"  I threw on some clothes and jumped in the car.  I was driving 75mph down residential streets in Houston praying for a cop to stop me.  Of course, they're never around when you really need them.

When I reached the house, the paramedics were already packing up their stuff to leave.  I knew then that I was too late.  A Deputy met me at the door and I told him who I was and asked him what had happened.  He told me that my ex had "huffed" Freon 22 (this is the industrial strength freon for those who are not familiar...my ex was  pipe-fitter and had access to it).  Apparently, it killed him immediately because my ex-mother-in-law found him lying totally naked on the floor face down. The freon was still turned on and there was a porn video playing on the VCR.  She screamed and all 3 boys immediately came running.  They saw EVERYTHING!  In fact, my middle son had to turn off the freon.

My middle and youngest son then noticed a fireplace shovel shoved between the cushions of his recliner with the handle facing out and a condom on it.  Apparently, he was sodomizing himself while watching the porn and then decided to huff the freon to get high while doing the other things.  There was no suicide note ever found so my belief is that he was just acting on 2 of his addictions, i.e., porn and drugs, and REALLY screwed up.  My 2 youngest sons put the fireplace shovel back and threw away the condom before the police arrived because they didn't want them to see it.

Next month marks the 15th anniversary of his death and frankly I am still glad it happened.  However, my sons were in therapy for a year.  The middle one has never really gotten over his father's death...they were very close.  I have always wondered just HOW close they were.  I asked my son if his father ever sexually abused him and he fervently denies it, however, I'll always have my doubts.

My middle son REALLY began acting out after wards.  He has been locked up in the Harris County Jail more times than I can remember.  I feel quite sure that he is on a first name basis with all the guards and deputies as well as their families.  He is 28 now and is serving  years in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice.  He is up for parole in March 2008 and is totally convinced that it will happen and he will be out on the street again.

Little does he know that I will be at that Parole Hearing in March of next year.  I will not be there to help him get OUT...I will be there to ask that he be kept IN!!!  He needs to serve the entire 2 year sentence.  I intend to tell the Parole Board that my opinion, as his mother, is that he is still a danger to society and that I am in fear of my life should he be released. These are both very true statements and I intend to make them while under oath.

When he as 15 years old, I confronted him with the marijuana I had found in his room and he broke my nose.  Then when I picked up the phone to call 911, he grabbed it from me and tried to knock me out with it.  Another situation happened in the garage when I told him it was time to come in the house...it was very late.  That time, he grabbed a knife and came after me with it.  Fortunately, I was close enough to the door that I was able to go inside and lock myself in.

I apologize for this long diatribe, however, I am only alive today by the Grace of God.  Between what my ex could and would have done to me had  I not left him and what my middle son has done to me, if it weren't for God looking out for me, I wouldn't be here to type this posting.

My entire point is that Michelle needs to get OUT!!!  RIGHT NOW!  TODAY!  She also needs to take her children when she goes and never look back.  Wade has some SERIOUS mental problems and she is not equipped to handle them.  He could do her he same favor my ex did and kill himself, whether on purpose or accidentally.  However, he's too much of a narcissist to do that.  Wade thinks he's the only person in he world who is always right...everybody else is always wrong in his mind.

Sheila

I truly appreciate your sympathy for what my three sons and  I have been through.  I am stuck in the "anger stage" of the grieving process and am not sure if I will ever progress.  My greatest hope is that my ex-husband and his father are now burning in the ninth realm of hell.  My ex-husband's father was killed in a car accident the day after my ex died.  He knew about the death because I called him to tell him even though he had always hated me with a passion.  I knew he didn't hate "me"...he would have hated anyone who took his only child away from him.

My ex and I both belong to the Living Bank (a great organization for those interested...their URL is http://www.livingbank.org) so when the funeral home picked up the body, we never saw it again.  There was a memorial but no burial.  There was absolutely NO reason for his father to fly to Houston.  He would not have been able to see his son and there was no funeral planned.  The only reason he came was to take my three boys away from me. Our Blessed Lord decided that was not going to happen and took care of the problem.  I will believe that forever.

I'm not sure that I could actually be considered co-dependent by the strict definition of the term; however, I will agree that I stayed WAY longer than I should have. The first time I left him, the boys were 2, 4, and 6. Had I divorced him then and not allowed visitation rights to him, the boys' behavior may have been different.  At least they would never have been subjected to finding their father naked and dead on the floor.

However; I'm sure you've heard the saying "Hindsight is always 20--20".  There are so many things I would change in the past had I known what the eventual outcome would be but that is not within my power.  At this point, I just trust in Our Lord to guide me along the right path and do what I can to be a good influence for my three sons and twin grandsons.

Thanks again!

Sheila

Thank you so much for your empathy and thank you even more for your prayers. One can never have too many people praying for them.

I did not mean for my long story to take away the emphasis on ensuring Michelle's and her children's safety.  I just wanted people to know what really CAN happen when they're dealing with a sick puppy like Wade.  I don't know if Michelle would be considered "co-dependent" by a psychiatrist; however, my "little voice" tells me that she is.  The fact that she allowed herself to be forced to have sex with Wade just because he demanded it and she was trying to "keep the peace" tells me that she may really have some co-dependency tendencies.  At the very least, she doesn't seem to respect herself very much.

My MAIN question is WHY ARE SHE AND HER CHILDREN STILL WITH HIM??????????  Dr. Phil has offered her refuge and she has yet to accept it!  My greatest fear is that the next time we hear an update on this story, it will be that Michelle and her four boys were all shot and killed by Wade.  That would be the ultimate tragedy and I pray with all my heart and soul that this will not happen.

Michelle...if you are reading these postings, my advice to you is to TAKE YOUR BOYS AND GET OUT NOW!  Wade is SICK and he will never get better with you and the kids there to coddle him!  Let the professionals handle it...it is beyond your capability and you are MUCH too close for comfort!  If you don't care about yourself, at least care about your sons!  I am praying for you and those babies!

Sheila

...why in the world men would want to walk around showing their underwear.  I have raised 3 sons who are now adults and they went through the "baggy pants" stage, too.  I didn't understand it then and I don't understand it now.

It would drive me up the wall to walk around in pants which are hanging down that far!  Why is this considered a "fashion statement"?  What company would hire a person who came to an interview dressed this way?  If I were the hiring manager, the interview would be over the minute Mr. Saggy Pants walked in the door!

However, I do NOT agree with legislating a manner of dress (or UNdress in this case).  I agree with the mom who follows her sons around and stops them when she sees them on the street with their pants hanging down.  Had I thought of that 15 years ago, I would have done the same thing.

My sons can attest to the number of times they received "wedgies" from their mom because their pants were hanging down!  It all comes down to the parenting they receive at home.  I am not a perfect mother and my sons did get away with things which were much worse...only because they were done without my knowledge.  However, this issue is a "hot button" for me.  It has NOTHING to do with race.  It has EVERYTHING to do with self respect.

Your posting has made more sense than all the others put together!  I have not been to your website yet but I do intend to go.

I have 3 grown sons who "catted around" when they were teenagers.  I tried my very best to stop their activity but to no avail.  I just Thank God that none of their "girlfriends" became pregnant during this stage!  Their father (or as I refer to him, "the sperm donor") died when they were 11, 13 & 15 so I was left to clean up the mess he had made with them.  This is NOT an easy task when they are the ages they were and when they had to deal with the way their father died (long, boring story).

My #2 son did get his girlfriend pregnant when he was 22 and she was 20.  They did not marry until she was 5 months pregnant and we already knew that she was carrying twins.  Since she was considered "high risk", they lived with my current husband and me throughout her pregnancy and until my grandsons were about 6 months old.

Guess who got up in the middle of the night with the babies...NOT mommy & daddy who were upstairs sleeping!  Nanny & Gampy got up with these babies every single night!  You might ask why we did this and did not "force" their parents to take responsibility.  I can only answer that the babies were not to blame for their parents' irresponsibility.  I admit that there was some enabling going on by my husband and myself.  One can justify anything if the urge is strong enough.  These babies are my grandchildren and I was NOT going to let them suffer.

My grandsons are now almost 7 years old and living with their mother.  She makes her livelihood at a strip joint (she was a stripper when my son met her).  Their father is in our state prison for beating up his girlfriend last summer.  I worry about my grandsons all the time and there's not a dang thing I can do about their situation.  We're lucky to see them on their birthday and at Christmas even though they live close by.

I love my grandsons dearly and am very glad that they are here, however, I had done everything I could to ensure that their mother did not even become pregnant by taking her to Planned Parenthood for an exam and a supply of birth control pills as well as condoms for my son.  I paid for all of that.  However, I couldn't force that pill down her throat nor could I put the condom on my son.  She never bothered to tell me that the pills made her sick and she stopped taking them after a week.  Obviously, my son didn't see a need for the condoms either.

A parent can only do so much.  Once the pregnancy happens, it's too late.  I tried and failed.  However, I guess there was a reason for my failure...my 2 grandbabies were meant to be here...

I am truly looking forward to this 2 part show and wish I could at least be in the audience so that I could share my experience with these twin sisters.  They don't realize that they are playing with fire and will eventually get burned if they don't change.

I was addicted to oxycodone from 2002 to March 2007.  Five years of my life were wasted because this drug had such a strong hold on me.  It was prescribed by a physician whose only concern was that I would need to come into the office every month for a written script.  I basically turned into a zombie on this drug.  There is so much about those FIVE YEARS which I can't even remember!

I finally decided to withdraw myself from this very potent drug and did so in NINE DAYS!  These were the worst days of my life.  I won't go into detail but I was sicker than a dog.  It was absolutely horrible.  However, I DID IT!  I had no insurance at the time so a rehab was not an option.  Needless to say, I do not use this doctor anymore.  I have had other doctors tell me that withdrawing the way I did could have caused seizures and other things up to and including death.

I don't know yet what these girls are taking but I can tell them that whatever it is will eventually kill them if they keep taking it.  I know what addictive behavior is because I have it also.  They definitely are experiencing the same behavior.  I know that I can never take any kind of narcotic pain killer in the future because doing so will cause the addictive behavior to begin again.  God forbid I should ever need surgery in the future; however, should this happen, I have already made my husband SWEAR to me that, other than the anesthetic for the surgery, he will NOT allow any narcotics to be given to me during my recovery.  If Tylenol or Ibuprofen don't help, then I'll just deal with the pain.

In closing, I do have to say that I didn't go through the withdrawal totally on my own.  Jesus sat beside me during the entire time and I will always owe my new "narcotic free" life to Him.  I just pray that these girls can find the help and peace I did.

I have heard of MRSA but was not completely aware of all its aspects until watching the show today.  This sounds like what is called a Nosocomial infection (def: infection obtained in the hospital environment).

Why is the CDC the only governmental agency involved in this?  IMHO, the NIH (National Institues of Health) should be contacted to determine the reason that so many cases of MRSA are appearing in hospitals all over the country.  Any illness which seems to be killing more people than HIV and seems to originate with a hospital stay is not one to be taken lightly.

I am very grateful to Dr. Phil for doing the show today and educating the public as to the seriousness of this disease.  I just pray that I nor anyone else in my family have no reason for hospitalization until this situation is resolved.

I will definitely watch this episode of Dr. Phil since it so closely resembles what I went through and am still going through with my middle son (I have 3 sons...each 2 years apart and now grown).

#2 son did all the things mentioned in the synopsis plus many more.  I am quite sure he did things that I never even knew about.  He has a juvenile record longer than both of my arms and legs and now, since he's an adult, his record is growing by leaps and bounds.  He is currently a guest of the Texas Dept of Criminal Justice (TDCJ) and will be until April 2009.  This visit to TDCJ is the result of domestic abuse of a family member.  He knocked out his girlfriend's 2 front teeth during a fight they were having.  Both of them were drunk and high on marijuana at the time.

He was up for parole last month (March 2008) and I requested an interview with the Parole Board.  I did a telephone interview with the lady in charge of the Parole Board.  The first thing she asked me was if I was advocating or protesting.  I immediately told her that I was protesting!!!  He is a danger to himself and to society and probably always will be.  At age 15 years, he broke my nose when I confronted him with his stash of marijuana.  Then when I picked up the phone to call 911, he grabbed it out of my hand and tried to knock me out with it.  I had to run to escape further injury.

There was a time not long after that when I told him it was time to come in the house since it was getting late.  His temper flared again and he came after me with a knife.  Fortunately, I was able to get into the house and lock the door before he could stab me.

Apparently giving this information to the Parole Board, as his birth mother, and telling them that I was in fear of my life should he be allowed parole carried some weight with them because he was denied parole.  He will now be an inmate until April 2009.  I intend to obtain a permanent restraining order against him prior to that date.  I realize that a piece of paper is not going to stop him so I have taken other measures to protect myself as well.

He was raised the same way as my other 2 sons and they're both "normal" (whatever that means).  He was diagnosed with ADHD when he was 5; however, I did everything I could to help him.  At the age he is now, 28 years old, I can no longer do anything to help him.  Now I just have to let it go and protect myself.

I guess 2 good ones out of 3 is all I can expect...