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September 15, 2005, 1:34 pm PDT

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Very sad, this show. Sad that a girl is missing, but sad how everyone is jumping to conclusions. Sad that no one is looking for truth, but listening only to rumors and lies. This girl was stupid enough to get into a car with 3 local strangers. I hope she is not dead or raped, but how can you say these boys were the ones who did it when there is no proof. Are we puttling at least some of the blame on the teachers that went on this trip, and asking why they were allowed out until 1:30 without proper supervision? What about putting some of the responsibility on the mother and father? Did they never warn her of the dangers of getting into strangers' cars? Especially in a country that is not your own? It does not sound like she was kicking and screaming. Dr. Phil shows are always full of propoganda. This is just the same. I hope that Natalee shows up safe and sound, but if the police there have released the suspects, then perhaps they have shown to EXPERTS that they are not guilty. Perhaps they are professional liars. I also have a problem with people going on the show and revealing information that has never been heard by anyone before, when the first people to hear said information should have been the police and the officials, both in Aruba and in the US. Wake up, people. Pray for Natalee to come home safe, but don't buy into typical American propeganda.
 
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September 17, 2005, 12:48 am PDT

Missing the Point Again

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    These boys are being accused simply because they were the last ones to be seen with Natalee. I can't believe that you are dismmising them as suspects. maybe they have shown to EXPERTS that they are not guilty, but I think they are pathological liars, and you are believing all of them. They may be innocent but don't ignore the facts. They were the last to be seen with her, if they didn't do anything they know who did. they lieing to protect someone.
Where did I say I dismissed them as suspects? Perhaps they do know what happened, perhaps not. Who are you or I to say that they are guilty or not guilty? Have you spoken to them, or have I? No, we have not. I do not believe I am ignoring the facts, I am just saying that instead of slandering and prosecuting these people before a trial, why not look at all the facets. I also do not believe that the world should stop because of one missing girl. I understand her mother's plight, but how many tourists go missing? I'm not trying to belittle the mother's pain, I'm honestly not. But instead of the American way of jumping to conclusions, maybe more emphasis should be put on searching instead of adhering to propeganda.
 
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September 17, 2005, 12:55 am PDT

09/15 The Disappearance of Natalee

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To say that the girl was stupid to get into the car is unfair. The girl was more than likely given drugs and that is how they were able to get her in their car, and maybe that is the reason why she was not screaming and kicking. You are quick to put the blame on the teachers and the parents, however, the guys last seen with her and who know far too much regarding Natalee's garments, in your opinion count for nothing because there is no "proof". That is "proof" enough for me. I think we both know that the chance of Natalee coming home safe is not probable and we also know that not being able to find a body does not mean that no crime was committed.

I'm sorry, but it was a stupid move to get into a car with people she did not know. Why did her friends let her get in that car in the first place? I know that my friends and I look after each other.  How does anyone know that she was given drugs? No. It looks from the evidence that she was not coerced into the car, and that she wanted to go. A date rape drug does not make a person a willing participant. It makes them unable to fight back when physically assaulted. How do I know? Because a close friend of mine was sexually assaulted with a date rape drug. The men who went with her would, of course, know what she was wearing. They have admitted she was in the car. I love how in the States, it's guilty until proven innocent. That's what the country was built on, right? Truth, justice, and the media way. I have a major problem with people using someone else's grief as a way to gain personal fame and notariety. 

  

And I did not place all the blame on the teachers and parents. But I do believe they have a large hand in what happened. If the children (and they are children) had been properly supervised and not allowed to go to a bar until 1:30 am on a school trip (I went on a few of them in my day, and I don't remember being allowed to go to bars...we had a strict curfew).  

 

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