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October 28, 2005, 11:33 am PDT

LsforLs

Hey young lady.........great information that you posted. 

  

  

Nice to see you here. 

  

  

Thanks for filling us in on dear usknoxx........gee whiz......she is missed. 

  

  

When I stopped posting......she was in her first flat away from husband......yet doubting her choice.....he was trying to con her into his arms yet once again. 

  

  

I am so deeply sorry that her son has suffered greatly......so appreciative that he is getting proper counsel and care. 

  

  

Wish I could wrap my arms around usknoxx and make things all better.   She always left an impact on our hearts,  didn't she? 

  

  

I used to post to her alot.....especially in the evenings here.......as she would be just getting to work and log on.........we had many a chat.    Time differences and all......it was a lovely kinship. 

  

  

I'm happy to connect with you. 

  

  

And I will say it again. 

  

  

Congratulations dear Ls..........congratulations! 

  

  

By the way..........how about trimming my hair.......now that the humidity has dropped.......I have no curl or body left at all.      Need a great cut........a  new hairdo!!! 

  

  

  

 

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October 28, 2005, 11:58 am PDT

some resources

Quote From: jandtack

Abuse is such a balck and white thing these days. Well my husband doent fit any of the stereo types. He is sweet and generous. He is a christian and goes to church a few times a week. Everyone loves him. Then he comes home to me.  

I have two small children and they have to see this mess. It is sad.  

The verbal really bothers me..the names. The things he says is so vicious. He says im a w*ore,c*unt no good worthelss lazy turd. I am a retarded loser, i am stupid and in betweena ll this is plenty of profanity. he throws things and breaks things. As far as the physical..if you ask him it has never happened. he will swear to have NEVER put his hands on me. I have a different memory. He has spit in my face, pushed me threw things at me his me with doors, slapped me kcked me.. and more. 

what do i do. I have no job, no meny and he REFUSES to leave the house. he says he will burn it down with me in it first.  

help and adive please 

You can get him out of the house. 

  

  

You can call the police when he slaps you, kicks you, hits you with doors....throws things and  breaks things. 

  

  

At least one half of all assets, house, stocks, bonds.....401K and other $$$$$ is legally yours. 

  

  

You can get child support also. 

  

  

You can go back to work.......or start work. 

  

  

You could go to college.      He can pay for that , too. 

  

  

Many assets and belongings are legally yours. 

  

  

  

I don't  like the way that he threatened your life with the fear of fire.    He is threatening to kill you. 

  

And what about the kids...does he threaten to take them?     

  

  

Please make use of all the necessary legal, and safety resources that are available to you. 

  

  

Please call a local hot-line to talk.....vent and seek resources in your area......they can help talk you thru this .......they can offer support close by.  

  

  

Please be sure to cover your tracks on the computer and the phone. 

  

We are here for support. 

  

  

Take care.  

  

  

Go to yahoo.com........in the search window.......type in .......power and control wheel.   Find a good site to read about power and control. 

  

Then in the search window.......type in ........equality wheel.    Read how is should be in your relationship.   Come back here and let us know what you think about the information. 

  

  

Thank you.   

  

  

  

  

  

  

 

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October 28, 2005, 7:26 pm PDT

Stephanie.......

Hello Stephanie, 

  

First of all...... Congratulations on all the difficult work that you have accomplished.  Continue on ........attend those meetings as part of your mandatory ,on going treatment....as Dr. Phil suggested. 

  

  

I wish  you continued success. 

  

  

I just wanted to drop a note to you........on todays show .......I thought I recognized some statements and things regarding your husband's abuse of you......that rang familiar.   Information that I thought was shared a long time ago......on one of the boards here. 

  

  

I'm not sure that you are the same person that I am thinking of......and I will not mention the name that the messages were posted under, however.........so much was so familiar...........it just set off my memories of many postings and much conversation with  (who I think was) you regarding abuse. 

  

  

I'm  not using the same posting name now as then so if it is you, you will not recognize my name.....but  anyway........some of the strings of conversations were long.    Many at that time posted........... and  tried to offer help and resources. 

  

  

Lots of concern took place.  

  

  

Just wondered. 

  

Take good care of yourself.........you look great by the way. 

  

  

I don't know if guests on the show are allowed to post to the boards soon after the show  they appear on.........Anyway. 

  

  

Stay healthy, stay happy......stay safe. 

  

Congratulations again. 

  

Take care.  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

 

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October 29, 2005, 7:16 am PDT

Dr. Phil's Life Strategies Calendar

Taken from Dr. Phil's calendar "Life Strategies" 

  

  

  

The healthy alternative is to acknowledge any problem behavior, figure out why the problem behavior happens, and make a plan for change. 

  

  

The universe rewards action; guilt is paralysis. 

  

  

  

  

 

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October 29, 2005, 7:30 am PDT

great interest on savings

Imagine,  an almost 7% interest on savings. 

  

  

In a year when the stock market has been  down........and savings are paying virtually peanuts........The I bonds can offer an attractive interest rate. 

  

  

The rate on these bonds which can be purchased thru your local banks.......or  the treasury direct.....is at a good rate right now...........one portion of the interest rate will be changing again on Nov. 1 as they are adjusted each Nov. and May.       

  

  

Resource to check this out............www.bankrate.com 

  

  

www.suzeorman.com 

  

  

Happy reading!!!!!! 

  

  

Happy saving!!!!!!! 
 

 

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October 31, 2005, 8:17 am PST

I don't know what abuse you speak of....

Quote From: hazedfog

Your abuse sounds like the abuse that I lived as a child. I hope that you can take a look at some of this and see that now im am in an abusive relationship now my self . It dosent happen to everyone but when you see it everyday as a child sometimes history repeats its self. As a child my father was a prison minister and wanted to become a priest , but when he was at home he would hit my mom , yell at her  , and I even watched him hold a gun to her head . I hope this helps if it dosent atleast I got to share that with you so that you know your not alone . My mom did get out but it might have been to late.

I don't know what abuse you speak of.........I haven't mentioned my abuse at all ........in any of my postings.  

  

  

I think this message was written to someone else. 

  

  

 

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October 31, 2005, 8:27 am PST

I wish you would hear the facts.....

Quote From: guiltridn

Could you please tell me where in the Bible it says it's ok to separate. My h's family thinks it was very wrong of me to move out of my house. I felt I didn't have a choice at the time.  The stress was literally killing me.

My dear lady, 

  

What really do you care where in the bible that it says its ok to separate? 

  

  

You have nothing to feel guilty about. 

  

What really do you care what your h's family has to say about the move and separation? 

  

  

Tell me, does your husband's family have a history of backing his wrong doings? 

  

Do they admit that there is abuse at work in their family? 

  

  

What do you care what they think? 

  

  

Would you rather die there in that house......spiritually, emotionally or otherwise.......I don't know your story at this point.  

  

  

Why would anyone need a passage in the bible to justify or not their gut feelings, emotions, and own knowledge of a serious situation.  

  

  

You have nothing to walk around feeling guilty about. 

  

  

How much help, compassion or information, resources did you get from your h's family? 

  

Take care. 

 

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October 31, 2005, 8:54 am PST

Hoping things get better......

Quote From: bonnieflec

Hello ya-all, 

I think I am a die hard fan that things will work out despite the evidence that there is alot 

of trouble. My h is someone I don't even recognize anymore. The past 2 years has been the 

worst I can remember. I was so embarrassed when my daughter had classmates over to 

work on a school project and when my h came home he started screaming at me. I whispered 

to him very calmly to please stop and talk about this later because I don't want our daughter 

to be embarrassed to him yelling at me, for no reason that I understand.  He promised to be 

home to help our daughter w/ a school project - all I did was call the phone number of the person 

I knew he was at to talk to him and let him know it was time for him to help. He has rushed to 

the person who has been working on his chopper to bring him parts, even though he had a promise to his daughter that bravely took her medicince this morning and was waiting for him. 

When he got home an hour late - I stayed away so I would not be emotionaly upset, but the 

first time I saw him he yelled at me and thought I was checking up on him - which was not true 

and just yelled and yelled and yelled.  I did not do anything wrong!  I calmed myself down before 

even being around him. My therapist advised me not to react to him, so I stayed away until I was 

totally calm and he yelled at me.  He was mad at me all night and when I try and be honest and 

vulnerable to him, he wont look at me. I asked him if he considered me a friend, when he said 

no, that was really it when I realized that if he won't get help it is over. My daughter shared with me 

later (with no input from me) that her daddy has been different for awhile and she wants her old 

daddy back.  She is talking about over a year!  I don't know why I hope and lose it and hope and it 

is lost again. But what happened today was a real eye opener and I have been waiting on God to 

tell me to stay or release me from this relationship - I feel like if my h does not get help, God is 

going to release me from this toxic relationship. I always wanted this marriage to work, but as 

a very wise person on this msg board said, is if he isn't willing to work on the marriage, there 

isn't a marriage at all. 

God Bless all of you and I hope your life is good! 

  

Hoping things get better. 

  

Hoping he will change. 

  

Hoping that everything will be alright. 

  

Hope. 

  

That hope! 

  

  

IT'S THAT VERY "HOPE" THAT EXPERTS AND THERAPISTS IN THIS FIELD SAY THAT KEEPS THE WOMAN LOCKED INTO THIS NEVER ENDING CYCLE OF ABUSE. 

  

The "hope" is the reason why she doesn't act and make changes for the better. 

  

God isn't going to tell you.........he is not going to come down and intervene.......believe me on that one. 

  

You hope and lose it.......you hope and lost it........because there is a brief period of time. .....now and then when you see the light.......then over and over again husband takes it away......over and over. 

  

Remember, your husband is going to want to isolate you and daughter......the family..... from others....so having kids in the house is not part of his plan......especially when he's in control.  Having other children over is too normal for husband.......if his behavior continues you and children will stop inviting kids or anyone over.........and he wins......he has you alone.......he has control. 

  

God will not release you from this horror. 

  

Your children depend on YOU. 

  

  

Take care. 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

 

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November 1, 2005, 5:35 pm PST

From Dr. Phil's Life Strategies calendar

Claim what it is that you want and deserve, because no one will do it for you.   No one can step up and claim your place for you.  If you don't, then it doesn't get done.
 

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November 2, 2005, 9:48 am PST

some comments regarding your situation

Quote From: wildtoby

Hi,  

  

I am so desperate to get some insight and see if there is any one else out there that is going through what I am.  I have been married for 17 years. I have two beautiful children.  My daughter (15) doesn't live with us any more.  She lives with her grand parents.  My son (13) lives with us.   

The first two years were great.  Then it changed.  I didn't really realize it was changing until my daughter desplayed some abnormal behavior and I got a family councelor.  While being in theropy I descovered that I am being mentally abused and controled by husband.  I new there was something wrong but it took another person's outlook on my life to see what really was going on.  

  

I was being abused, phycologically and emotionally.  My children were being abused the same way and sometimes he would put his hands on them.  It was hard for me to stand behind him but that is what I did (to a point) because I was his wife.  The counselor showed me that it was wrong of him to do this and so didn't a number of state official counselors -which my daughter brought into our lives..  

  

I now know that this is no way to live.  My daughter is at her grandparents and my husband and I are always fighting.  We fight because I am not letting him control me anymore.  He would make me feel that it was my duty to give him sex. I have told him many times that I didn't want to but he would throw such a tantrum and continuioulsy ask why I didn't want to.  I would give under the pressure and let him have his way.   

  

One day this summer, my husband blew up and pushed my son really hard.  This was at a party with his family.  His brother got very upset and told him that he will take our son away from him.  That he was way out of line.. to the point that my brother in law was going to call the cops.  I told my brother in law not to because I didn't have anything to do with that scene.  I went home and calmed my husband down and my brohter in law came over to confront him.  My son and I left the house.  The next day I told my husband that if he EVER touched one of the kids again I will kick him out And if he ever abused me mentally he is out as well.   

  

Well, he started on me one day and I kicked him out.  He was out for 5 days. I made the mistake of letting him back in.  I told him that it is going to go my way now.  HE will no longer touch the kids and he will no longer abuse me mentally and WHEN I AM READY TO MAKE "LOVE" and when I feel that I love him enough to do that than I will let him know.. Til then.. NO SEX.  And he has to stay in counceling and keep taking meds. 

  

He agreed.. Ya until he wanted his sex. Then the fights started to come again.. I know I should kick him out but this is really hurting my son.. He doesn't see all the fights but both kids know that MOM and DAD are having big troubles.  My husband just doesn't stop trying to get his way on the sex part.  He trys to make me feel guilty for not giving him his sex.. he says that I am just pushing him off to the side and he feels it's cold over there.  I told him that it's his turn to feel like that and I will not engage in sex until I am ready and I feel that I AM in love again... My councelor feels there is no hope and he will never change.  so doesn't my best friend.. They think I should leave him and get divorced.    

  

  

Need some advise... from someone who has lived it.. PLEASE.   

LISTEN...............LISTEN...........LISTEN 

  

  

You do NOT need advise from someone who has lived it in order to know what your counselor and best friend already know. 

  

  

You already know it.......and choose to remain in a hopeful and place of denial.  

  

  

You said it yourself.......you have 2 beautiful kids........YET..........you were willing to loose your daughter because of this abuse...........and you are willing to stand behind your husband when he is doing horrible things to your son.       

  

  

Your daughter at the age of  15 brought the state in to this........good for her. .....someone needed to get involved. 

  

  

It seems you are fortunate that your brother-in-law got involved......and yes the police should have been called.......thank goodness your brother in law was there.  

  

  

Why is it whenever your support system for you and your children are there for you and are willing to help you and the children you do something to yet once again allow your husband to get away with and not face the consequences for his horrible abuse? 

  

This is hurting your son, alright........and it could lead to your losing your son, too.........either in a way that some outside folks step in..........or to his learning and becoming just like your husband.   An abuser, a batterer, a coward and a bully.        I certainly hope that your son doesn't arrive at that point.   The poor child is hurting alright........in so many ways.......many that you are not even aware of.     

  

  

There is hope for you and your children...........NOT for your husband the abuser and batterer.   Your counselor says he will never change.......so does your best friend.........they think you should do what is necessary for you and your children. 

  

  

Well, you wanted advise from someone that has lived it........forget about the husband's manipulation and false promises...........he is not going to change...........HE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.      Abusers don't change.....a rare small percentage.  He is NOT going to change. 

  

  

I have lived it...............HE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE...........he will just get older each day.....continue on as he is.......get worse as the years pass.......and his outbursts, violence and abuse will come in cycles closer and closer together........to the point where his irruptions, rage and otherwise will always......minute by minute occur..........there will be no rest from any of it. 

  

  

I have lived it........now you have it. 

  

  

And by the way, your best friend has your best interest at hand..........and your counselor has years and years of experience and research and statistics at their finger tips........they know what they are talking about. 

  

  

THIS GUY DOESN't  have respect for you.....your children or any of your personal boundaries.   

  

  

I don't think fighting with him is the answer either. 

  

Men like that thrive on the fight!  

 

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