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November 22, 2006, 10:48 am PST

11/21 Nightmare Brides and Grooms

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I never planed on posting any messages on this bored, but after reading over some of the messages I feel like I needed to clear a few things up.

First of all I was not thrilled about the idea of taking my personal life on a national TV show, and then I had to consider how it would affect the life of the man I want to spend the rest of my life with. I am surprised to see how many people have no problem putting their two cents where they're really not concerned. Don't get me wrong, I have seen some good objective advise, however few and far between. And we all know what they say about opinions.

I also know that you all may feel you have the right to judge and voice your views because after all I am the one who wrote to the show, but know this, I wrote the show for the opinion and help of a trained and experienced man. However, I am disturbed that you all as viewers only got to see a small part of the story. I am in love with this man, and I have read comments about his smirks, and controlling ways, but you also have to take into consideration that I am the one who knows him, and knows his sense of humor, how he handles himself in uncomfortable situations. I watched the show today, and I was there, and it's our life. We will make the decisions that we feel are right for us. Richard put himself on a stage, in front of all of America, and apologized to me. Who would do that for you? I respect him for that, and it needs to be acknowledged. Nobody, is perfect and what you all need to remember is that you don't know the things that I have done wrong in this relationship. I have read posts that said I pout, and I need to stand up for myself and so on. Know this...I am a strong and capable woman, capable of making my own choices and living with them, capable of choosing who I love and how I love him, and I have not always loved him the way I should. So this situation is not as one sided as you all may think from what you have seen on TV. Remember don't believe everything you hear, and only half of what you see.

I guess my point here is, just move on, don't waste your time on us anymore. We need to work on our relationship, and we always will, because when you stop working on a relationship it ends.

I will always do what I want to do, and it kinda hurts my feelings that anybody would think that I would let a man control me, it also hurts me to see the things that have been said about the man I love. I really could on and on and you would still not know enough about our life to come to conclusions. As for Israelmom, we love you and thank you so much for your support. I know how some people feed on the sorrows of others, I think it makes them feel better about their own life. But God knows my heart and our story, both sides. I don't know the future but I do know that everything will work out exactly how it is supposed to.

 

 

  I am my own woman and I am strong, and I will continue to make my own choices and I will have no regrets. You learn from your mistakes and you take that lesson with you through life. If you don't learn from your mistakes you make them over again until you do learn. But one thing never changes, you are the only one who lives with the decisions you make.

 

I love you Richard, and I am so proud of you for being the man you are. Love is unconditional, and knows no boundaries. Love is patient, and love is kind. Love endures.

You dont SOUND strong, you just think you are - and if you didnt want anything aired publicly then DUH  why go on NATIONAL frickin TV ???  You need to dump this loser and get on with your life with someone that isnt controlling your every move but then again he has you so brainwashed that you wouldnt know how to live without him.  Tell me he has never said that to you - I dare ya - cause I would bet dollars to donuts he has -
 
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November 22, 2006, 10:49 am PST

11/21 Nightmare Brides and Grooms

Quote From: airassault71

I never planed on posting any messages on this bored, but after reading over some of the messages I feel like I needed to clear a few things up.

First of all I was not thrilled about the idea of taking my personal life on a national TV show, and then I had to consider how it would affect the life of the man I want to spend the rest of my life with. I am surprised to see how many people have no problem putting their two cents where they're really not concerned. Don't get me wrong, I have seen some good objective advise, however few and far between. And we all know what they say about opinions.

I also know that you all may feel you have the right to judge and voice your views because after all I am the one who wrote to the show, but know this, I wrote the show for the opinion and help of a trained and experienced man. However, I am disturbed that you all as viewers only got to see a small part of the story. I am in love with this man, and I have read comments about his smirks, and controlling ways, but you also have to take into consideration that I am the one who knows him, and knows his sense of humor, how he handles himself in uncomfortable situations. I watched the show today, and I was there, and it's our life. We will make the decisions that we feel are right for us. Richard put himself on a stage, in front of all of America, and apologized to me. Who would do that for you? I respect him for that, and it needs to be acknowledged. Nobody, is perfect and what you all need to remember is that you don't know the things that I have done wrong in this relationship. I have read posts that said I pout, and I need to stand up for myself and so on. Know this...I am a strong and capable woman, capable of making my own choices and living with them, capable of choosing who I love and how I love him, and I have not always loved him the way I should. So this situation is not as one sided as you all may think from what you have seen on TV. Remember don't believe everything you hear, and only half of what you see.

I guess my point here is, just move on, don't waste your time on us anymore. We need to work on our relationship, and we always will, because when you stop working on a relationship it ends.

I will always do what I want to do, and it kinda hurts my feelings that anybody would think that I would let a man control me, it also hurts me to see the things that have been said about the man I love. I really could on and on and you would still not know enough about our life to come to conclusions. As for Israelmom, we love you and thank you so much for your support. I know how some people feed on the sorrows of others, I think it makes them feel better about their own life. But God knows my heart and our story, both sides. I don't know the future but I do know that everything will work out exactly how it is supposed to.

 

 

  I am my own woman and I am strong, and I will continue to make my own choices and I will have no regrets. You learn from your mistakes and you take that lesson with you through life. If you don't learn from your mistakes you make them over again until you do learn. But one thing never changes, you are the only one who lives with the decisions you make.

 

I love you Richard, and I am so proud of you for being the man you are. Love is unconditional, and knows no boundaries. Love is patient, and love is kind. Love endures.

Any he is a FOOL if he thinks he can take this as a write off on taxes - and you are a fool for beleiving him when he says it
 
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November 25, 2006, 7:42 pm PST

simple answer

Quote From: dlynne14

I was raised to work hard, and earn what I want in life. My husband and I raised our children to do the same. However, my 28 year old daughter has married a man who is 37 and his mother still completely supports him.  She bought him a house, a car, furniture, several big boy toys, and I could go on and on.  NO he does not work.  He has been with my daughter for 3 years and has not earned a dime.  He went to school to become a machanic, and graduated 3 months ago.   His mother paid for that as well.  He has yet to find a job.  Talk about spoiled and entitled.  If I say a word to my daughter about his work ethic, she will never talk to me again, and keep me from seeing my granddaughter.  Sad. Oh yes, my daugther works full time, and does pretty much everything around the house as well.  He does play well with my granddaughter.  NO he is not her biological father, but she calls him daddy.  How do I deal with this situation without anlienating my daugher????

You want to know what to do ?  NOTHING !!  Absolutely nothing !  It is your daughters marriage and you arent having to pay for anything so what does this have to do with your life personally ?  This is totally between your daughter and her HUSBAND !!!  Leave it alone and grin and bear it
 
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November 25, 2006, 7:52 pm PST

Who raised these kids ?

Simple answer - YOU DID !!  So now that you started the cycle you have to be the one to stop it.  Why parents let their brats run all over them is beyond me - if I had demanded this or that from my dad I would have gotten a one way trip from Illinois to California as a result of him kicking my butt !  Learn to say NO and get a spine people.  You are the parent - and for the girl who blames Grampa for her own spoiled daughters ways - give me a frickin break !  She was a spoiled brat and now she is allowing her own 4 year old to be raised as the same.  FOUR YEARS OLD, woman?  How much control can a 4 year old have ?  Only as much as you give her.  Tell Grampa to stop giving your daughter what she wants and the same goes for you stopping asking for what you want out of dear old dad.  His obligation to you ended at age 18 and certainly when you became a parent yourself.  But you sound like the same spoiled brat that you were raised as. 

 

I had a girlfriend from the age of 18 who had a daughter at age 16 - they went through really hard times, dirt poor unti she got a good paying job and a new husband who adopted the daughter.  I watched my friend buy her 6 year old daughter Levi's and endless brand name things and when she would complain about the cost I would ask well, then why do you buy them for her - her answer was that the daughter would throw a fit and refuse to wear anything other than designer clothes.  I told her then to tell the 6 year old TOUGH !  "I am your mom and you will darn sure wear whatever I choose to buy you" - the kid turned her nose up at anything purchased at Kmart as not being good enough and every time my friend gave in.  At age 18 the daughter and her became estranged and my friend moaned about how did she turn out like that ?  I told her well, I hate to say I told you so but .....

 

My kids all bought their own cars at age 16 - they all worked at that age and bought their own school clothes for the most part.  When the youngest decided in her senior year she wanted to quit school, her dad and I told her fine, quit - but here is your third of the household expenses.  Wonders of wonders, my daughter was back in school the very next day AND she still worked to pay for her own car insurance, etc. 

 

Kids only learn what parents teach them - its the parents fault - after all, they are the ones that always said yes ! 

 
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December 15, 2006, 7:47 am PST

11/21 Nightmare Brides and Grooms

Quote From: heidinindi

Neither of these two is a bad person, nor are they a bad match (based on what came up on this show).  But, at least with regard to their wedding, this couple seems to have a pattern of not being very direct in communicating with each other, and that caused some problems for them.

 

Most women dream of their wedding day from early childhood, so it's normal for them to want the day to be "perfect."  While it sounded like Jamie agreed to small Vegas wedding with few "frills," when it came down to it, she actually wanted something more - and she took their wedding account money got it, much to Mike's dismay.   Mike admitted that selfishness is not characteristic of Jamie, and she insisted that it was "just for the wedding."  So why did that "selfishness" come out then?  Here's my take on the situation: 

 

Jamie failed to communicate or MIke failed to hear (I'm not sure which) what Jamie REALLY wanted for her wedding.  Instead of taking time to communicate more clearly with him about this, Jamie took matters into her own hands and made sure to get the things she wanted (I don't mean she made sure to get her way - just that she went out and got the things she wanted - a chapel, flowers, etc.).  Mike did not.  When Jamie "made him" uninvite all his friends (a poor choice of words unless she physically coerced him into doing this), it would seem that he agreed, willingly or grudgingly, and did this.  He may have resented it, but again, instead of trying harder to communicate what he wanted, he let it go.

 

Because both of them failed to communicate how much they wanted certain things, they couldn't really negotiate for those things that were truly important to each of them.  The result was that they ended up agreeing, instead, to wedding plans neither was really happy about.  Their response to that was different, though, with Jamie breaking the agreement to get what she truly wanted and what actually made her happy, and Mike sticking with the agreement but silently resenting it.   I'm not sure which was a worse response, but it's obvious why MIke was more unhappy.  He not only resented the things he'd agreed to (no friends, bachelor party, etc) but he also felt betrayed because Jamie didn't keep the agreement and feel equally discontent.  He probably hasn't thought of it quite like that, but it might help Mike to realize that Jamie could have stuck by the plan for a "no frills" wedding, and he would instead have had money left over in their joint account...and a bride who felt disappointed (at best) or resentful (at worst) about her wedding day.  And as Dr. Phil always reminds men, women have a LOOOONG memory.  In the end, I think he probably got the better option - a wife who was content with her wedding day.  I just wish that, if his friends' presence and a bachelor party of some sort was equally important to him, he could have expressed that in such a way that Jamie could have negotiated with him for those things (e.g. perhaps a few friends and a different show for the bachelor party).  Hopefully both Mike & Jamie will learn how to be more forthright with each other as they grow in their marriage.

 

P.S.  While the price of the wedding was not excessive, the price of that purse certainly was!  That merited an apology - especially because of the initial lie.  Hopefully Jamie's learned a lesson from that, too - better to be truthful right away than be truthful after getting caught!  The loss of a honeymoon is a disappointment for both of them, but perhaps Mike could learn from that - if you're planning a surprise, put the money you plan to use for it in a separate account where Jamie can't mistakenly think it's available to buy $600 purses!!

I guess I am atypical in the fact that as a young girl I didnt dream of a perfect wedding and prince charming and all that other fantasy stuff.  I was raised in the real world where I knew I would have to make it on my own and thank god I have.  Even when I was married I was on my own financially to a point - I made my own decisions about what car I wanted - it was MY car and MY money that paid for it.  How women today can still beleive that a man is the be all end all to their lives is beyond me !
 
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December 15, 2006, 7:52 am PST

Indifferent about the Holidays ! ANY of them!

I watched the show on Thursday, December 14th about the guests that disliked Xmas.  As a 48 year old female I have also always disliked the holidays.  Mostly for the fact that when I entered the work force I did so in a job that required me to work on all holidays, so Thanksgiving, Xmas and New Years were all just another day as far as I was concerned.  Now, as I have gotten older and no longer work those days I do work in a large office environment that promotes the Xmas dinners, etc.  I don't feel like participating in any mandatory practices.  Just because the calendar shows we should, doesn't mean we all feel that way.  Especially the holidays are rough for me since my father passed away 10 years ago - and without him, there is no family left.  I have children and grandchildren that I see and call and wish a Merry Xmas but as far as anything else to do with the holidays I would actually prefer staying home by myself and clean my house or watch TV.  I have a good male friend that I have spent the holidays with just because his family is scattered and they celebrate their holidays at other times - but if I don't get together with him for dinner and a day of movies, then I do nothing.  I hate the comments about me being a scrooge, I hate the fact that people always ask me WHY WHY WHY ?   I don't have to explain why !  I am a grown woman with my own reasons.  I feel the same way about birthdays.   If we cannot be nice to each other 365 days out of the year then why force the niceness onto one day because it says December 25th ???  Besides all of that I was listening to the radio yesterday on my drive to work and out of the 5 preset radio stations on my car radio ALL 5 had some kinds of advertisements for stores having sales for last minute Xmas gifts!  What ever happened to the real reason we are supposed to be celebrating this day ?  I get more and more annoyed with the holidays each and every year when I go into a store to buy Halloween candy and they already have Xmas stuff in stock - c'mon people !  In OCTOBER ???    If you know someone that doesn't care for the holidays they have their reasons and they really are NOT under any obligation to share those reasons with you !    If someone says no to a part then leave it at that - take the NO and move on.  I always enjoyed HOLIDAY dances but that was when I worked on a committee for my old corporation and I so enjoyed dressing up and socializing with my friends.  But, again, that was because we all wanted to be together, and not HAD to be. 
 
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December 18, 2006, 6:41 am PST

12/13 Holiday Horror Stories

Quote From: purplepenny

You do know you have a choice in being annoyed by radio ads right?

And holidays are just special days. I AM nice all 365 days of the year...but this is a day where everyone decides to celebrate together.

I'm sorry about your father.
Yes I know I can just turn the dial - but then every station is playing the same thing.  I end up using my CD's more than radio.  And thanks for the comment about daddy - really tough the first year 10 years ago and not any easier
 
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December 24, 2006, 9:19 am PST

Do they really want to give ultimatums ?

Why oh WHY would these women, or any for that matter, want to marry someone that had made it plain they don't want to get married?  I would bet anything that it isn't that these men don't want to get married at all, they just don't want to marry that particular woman! 

Case in point here - I was 45 and had been seeing someone for three years, in October of our 3rd year I told him flat out that if I didn't see a ring under the tree at Xmas then we were done.   We didn't live together mainly because I had my own home and he didn't yet and was till renting and I wasn't about to give up my home without a marriage certificate.  So anyway, fast forward to Xmas morning that year.  No ring.  So I didn't say a word, we went on about our morning and when it came time to get ready to go to is parents for dinner with them I just sat on the couch watching TV as he took a shower and got dressed and ready to go.  He finally noticed I was still in my sleep clothes and he asked me when I was going to start getting ready to go.  I just simply said oh, I forgot, I have one more present for you - its on the front porch, go take a look.  So he got all excited and he went to the front porch only to find a box of some of his clothes and shaving stuff he had kept at my house, all boxed up and wrapped like a real Xmas gift.  After he opened it he came back in and looked at me kind of funny while I was still calmly sitting on the couch.  I didn't even look up from the TV while I reminded him of what I had said in October about having a ring and setting a date and he said yeah I remember that conversation.  I said, well, did you think I was kidding ?  Well, I wasn't.  So since there was no ring and no date set, then we are done !  See ya - take your box of crap and get out of my home!  I am DONE!   He left but didn't take me seriously til I refused to take any more of his phone calls over the next few weeks.  We finally ran into each other and talked til the wee hours of the morning and I told him once again, that I was serious - no ring after 3 years and I was moving on, period.  As a matter of fact I had started dating again by New Years Eve - a week after I told him to get away from me. 

We started seeing each other again and I let the ring issue drop - but then on Valentines day he had me meet him for dinner at our favorite place and afterwards we got in his truck and went to a jewelers and he told me to pick out any ring I wanted.  So I got a gorgeous 2 carat marquise solitaire and he did the whole getting on one knee and all that stuff.  He was working out of town at the time during the week mostly and was just home that one nite to propose to me on Valentines Day - then he left the next morning and drove the two hours back to his work saying he would see me on Saturday morning when he got home from work for the weekend.  I went to work the next day wearing my ring and showing it to my girlfriends but then I realized during the day that after all the trouble it took to get that to finally happen, did I REALLY want it anymore ?  I decided the answer was NO !  I left work that day and went to see the jeweler who was a good friend of mine and my long time jeweler for everything and I gave him the ring back and told him to send the refund back to my "fiance" - by the time my now ex fiance - (though he didn't know it yet) got home on Saturday he got his mail and found the refund check from the store and tried to call me - I had changed my number to another unlisted one after I took the ring back.  So he drove over to my house and asked me what was going on - I told him I had decided that he was too late in the ring and proposal and I really didn't want it anymore.  Then I told him goodbye and good luck and see ya !  Shut the door and never looked back.  Best thing I ever did.    Bottom line is if a guy says he doesn't want to get married, especially at the start of a relationship, then say SEE YA then and there. 

Funny thing is that he ended up meeting some low life welfare whore who had a kid who didn't even know who out of three men was the father and he moved her in within a month of me dumping him - and then married her within 9 months after SHE showed up at his workplace (he was working back in town by that time) in a WEDDING dress no less and her 3 year old daughter saying DADDY DADDY and dressed in a little white dress too - and they got married, ended up getting in a huge fight the same nite as their wedding and she tore up the marriage license in a fit of drunken rage - (I TOLD you she was white trash!) - and they stayed married for a whole 9 months - he came home one nite from work to find a moving truck and her moving EVERYTHING out of HIS house - all of the furniture that was HIS she was taking that too - and a cop was there and forced HIM to leave til she was done cleaning him out down to his plates and pots and pans.  So, in 9 months, she got him to adopt her bastard kid since no other man would claim her - she took all of his stuff, she had NOTHING when they met, she was 30 and living with her parents, and she took the brand new truck that he had bought for her. When they got divorced she got half of his pension, child support for the bastard kid and kept the new truck and he had to finish paying for it AND she also got spousal support because she claimed that by marrying him she had lost her earning power.  Hell, she hadn't been working when they met - she was on WELFARE - but she got 1000 in spousal support and 500 in child support a month.  Not a bad deal for a welfare drunk mother who was married for a little over 9 months !  he actually showed up on my door step after she left him and when I answered the door I just looked at him and said you have GOT to be kidding ???  And I told him to go away again and leave me alone and I shut the door and never looked back.  Any other man I have ever dated is welcome in my home any time but not him !    I thank GOD every day of my life since him that I took the ring back and dumped him.  He is now, last I heard from a friend of his who I date occasionally, he is now with another white trash welfare women and living in a dump !   Glad he got what he deserved

 
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December 24, 2006, 9:40 am PST

child support

Quote From: thinkoutloud

Please don't be so quick to judge people for ending up in desperate financial situations.  It happens faster and easier than you can imagine. 

I have always been a very good money manager, putting myself through college, saving from my salary, etc.  My divorce from my ex-husband put me back many, many steps in financial terms.  I am now very happily remarried, but my husband has to pay $400/week in child support (for one child!!) to his ex-wife.  He only earns $65,000 a year!  This is not a bad salary by any means, but by the time we've paid for health insurance for ourselves and our four children (my two, his by his first wife, and our one together), his ex wife gets HALF of his take-home pay!  Don't get me wrong, I'm all for child support (and wish I could get some from my ex), but this is ridiculous. His ex-wife doesn't even need it, but saves every single penny we give her.  That's great for her, but we have a family of five that also needs to survive.  We have taken this to the courts (and spent way more than we can afford on an attorney), but there's nothing we can do to change this because my husband agreed to it in the beginning.  (He did that because he wanted to do the right thing, and he didn't want his ex to have to work and  put the kid in daycare.  But now the kid is in school all day and my husband's ex DOES work because she chooses to.) 

Because of this, we are sinking further and further into debt.  We are both doing everything we can to bring in extra money, but it's never enough.  We are desperate and there doesn't seem to be anything we can do about it.  If we don't pay the child support, my husband will be thrown in jail.  If we DO pay the child support, we can't afford the basics for the rest of us. 

Put yourself in a situation like this first.  Then see if you're so quick to judge.

Shoot - I had a friend who had two ex's - and he had one kid by the first and two by the second and he had to pay a flat rate of 1600 a MONTH to EACH woman !!!!  Yes, he made terrific money - but basically the courts were saying to him and the kids that his first child was worth 1600 and his other two kids were only worth 800 each !  And BOTH the mothers also had very high paying jobs too.  PLUS he had to keep paying the mortgage for the second wife !!!!  HUH ?  She worked making over 100  grand a year PLUS she got almost another 20 grand in child support and couldt afford to pay her mortgage ?  The courts here in Illiniois based a straight percentage of my friends take home pay.  Utterly ridiculous and unfair.  The women both took cruises every year without the kids - drove brand new cars that they bought every year - and wore only the best clothes.  The 3200 a month for my friend was a minor struggle, since he made so much money but I do not buy into the theory of keeping up someone elses lifestyles as they were when they were married.  Divorce changes things and the spending should change with it. 
 
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April 14, 2007, 5:07 pm PDT

get a clue

Quote From: manuelm

I know My wife is cheating on me but I think she is confused. She told me she wasn't happy but could not say why.

She got in touch with a old boyfriend that is married and lives out of state. The meet to talk and I think he is just using her. He told her he's not happy with his marriage ether but I think he is just using her for a little out of state fun.

I love my wife and I don't think she realized what she was doing. We have a ten year old son who would be devastated.Should I try to save our marrage or just give up.

Huh ?  She contacted an old boyfriend and she doesnt know what she is doing ?  Get a clue hun, she knows EXACTLY what she is doing.  SHE is using YOU !  She knows that you know and she has it made - she has you and the boyfriend. Man, what a setup !  Kick her out and keep the kid - GIVE UP and go find a decent woman rather than the sleaze you are married to.  Sorry but it is the truth !
 

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