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November 6, 2007, 7:46 pm PST

yeah ok "mom"

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I feel bad for those that can relate and have simular situations. You'll be in my thoughts and prayers for the continued healing it takes. No matter who has what opinion, Kayla set out to accomplish what she wanted to do. She wanted to confront Jerry for however she feels about him abandoning her and to state truths about her brother. This was done with no one's approval in mind. No one has a right to tell her how to feel or how to act, this was her situation and she handled it like she wanted to. End of story!
 I still say Kayla was a nasty little brat - right or wrong - her dad did what he did and she is the one that has to live with her total hatred and it will eat her alive, not him.  For her to refuse any contact with her grandparents and not go get gifts from them is childish.  Funny but I heard as did many others, "mom's" voice in almost everything Kayla said.  To live with that much hatred and venom is just flat out not right
 
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November 6, 2007, 7:51 pm PST

so not true

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NO one has cast stones at Jerry.  Unfortunately for Kayla she had to grow up with the feelings of insecurity that comes with not knowing why your father could not love you enough to tough it out.  I know that in the land down under you might go on a little "walk about" here or there but hopefully you remember that you have children that you created. 

 

Go easy on the little sheila- she did the best she could too.

 Sorry but I have 4 daughters whos biological mother left them at a very early age and they in no way suffer from low self esteem or insecurity.  They knew they were loved all their lives by their father and came to understand the best thing their mother did was leave with him.  If Kayla is so insecure then the MOTHER didnt do a very good job raising her and making her feel loved either huh ? 

And FYI, my ex husband didnt get one red cent of help for his daughters - why do people autmatically bring up child support ?  Sure, the children need the help but it sure seems like men get this brought up all the time and women go away scott free with no one blinking an eye at them not paying a dime. 
 
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November 6, 2007, 8:01 pm PST

09/27 Hobo Daddy

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I don't know you (although some people will probably think you were "bribed" to write these things... ha!) but I appreciate SO MUCH your understanding and compassion!  YOU make the sense that it seems like so many other people can't grasp and for the life of me I don't understand why!  Not that anyone will believe me, but during the time that Jerry was still in the kids' lives yet being so irresponsible and neglectful of them (and before Glori found out about the drug and alcohol abuse he was introducing to his son!) he was treated better by our family than 99% of families would've treated him... I guarantee it!  It's all because we knew and loved the "old Jerry" and prayed to find that person again but it was not to be and I only wish I could believe that there is a chance of it ever happening. Your thoughts are so in tune with Glori's situation. I understand that you're living it also..... and I'm sorry for that.  You, unlike some of the people posting messages, know the pain and helplessness that a mother feels when she faces her child who misses their father and doesn't understand why they don't want to see them.  People accuse Glori of spewing hatred in Kayla and Glori spent all of Kayla's (and Micah's) childhood years biting her tongue for THEIR sake!  Kayla is an adult now and deserved her chance to express her anger and pain.  Glori didn't have to fill her mind with lies.... Jerry's actions (or lack OF) spoke for themselves. Maybe what some people saw was only the anger and they couldn't see deep enough to see the underlying pain that was bringing it on.  No matter how much you try to protect and shelter your son, he too might be very angry one day and wish to confront his father and express that........ and he has every right to!!  The children can't speak for themselves when they're that young but once they're adults they have spent most of their lives EARNING that right!  And, as a loving mother, I don't think it would be right to deny them that or criticize for being "disrespectful"!  PLEASE!

 

Once again, I greatly appreciate your understanding and compassion.  I am forwarding your comments to Glori and Kayla, in case they don't get on here  to see it. They need the positive input and understanding.  THANK YOU and I pray for you and your son!  He'll be fine.... he obviously has a strong mother!  :-)

(and before Glori found out about the drug and alcohol abuse he was introducing to his son!)

Uh was this before or after Jerry found out his wife was sleeping with another man ?  Hmm curious minds want to know
 
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November 6, 2007, 8:02 pm PST

I AM a parent

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Are you kidding me?  You need a reality check.  If Jerry was man enough to bring Kayla into the world he should have been man enough to raise her.  Jerry is a lazy man.  He is homeless because he chooses to be.  He doesn't work nor does he try to get a job!  How dare you say that Kayla should move on.  You obviously are not a parent!  And if you are you must not be a very good one.  You need to get a life!
 He was man enough to do what he felt was best for his daughter and that was to leave !  I have no ill will at all towards my daughters bioligical mother because she did the right thing by leaving and I am a good parent thanks so much
 
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November 6, 2007, 8:12 pm PST

no maybe you should have just kept your mouth shut !

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It will never be or is unimportant as to whether you think Jerry lied or not. You're not in the situation and will never know, but Kayla and I do. She may of been younge, but she knows the facts and knows the situation alot more than any posting on here. It's not about sides and if you want to make it that, then waiste your time to do so. I am her mother and I didn't give her any one sided story. Unless you call it that because Jerry wasn't there period for her to hear any words of his. She heard only from me the truth and it's bad enough. Maybe I should of spared her and lied.
 Funny but my ex husband dint bad mouth his first wife to his daughters for leaving them with him.  Hmm I find it totally curious that you have not once denied the fact that you left with Jerrys best friend - you either did or you didnt ?  Which is it ?   Werent you even proven to be LIVING with him after Jerry and you split ?  Does Kayla get that fact drilled into her head on a daily basis like she did from you that her dad was a horrible person ?  I somehow doubt it.  If Kayla has insecurities YOU put them there - it was your job to make her safe once her father chose to not be in her life and I also find it curious that Kayla never took her OWN responsibility for her brothers suicide.  No one could have stopped it but she blamed another human being, Jerry, for her brothers death and then sat there and had the nerve to say she knew her brother so well ????  Again if she knew him so well then why coulndt she stop him ?  At 23, no matter how the drugs and stuff got started, at 23 the man was a MAN and he chose that life for himself!  And he chose to end that life on his own too !!!
 
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November 6, 2007, 10:02 pm PST

wow just cant believe this post

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One of Jerry's many excuses for being on the run is for child support. Lets see it is a responsiblity of the non custody parent to pay by law. Support was sit by the courts at the time of divorce. At one point the family went on assistance and it's required by law for him to pay support and to be filed. At that time it was given to the courts by the state. Never once did I ever take Jerry to court on my own to collect child support. I never lawyered up and took actions to collect any payment. I had ever right to and entitled by law too and probably should have.
 uh forgive me here but I can't help but see the obvious

Support was sit by the courts at the time of divorce. At one point the family went on assistance and it's required by law for him to pay support and to be filed. At that time it was given to the courts by the state.

First off the word is "set"

but secondly you have the NERVE to call someone else lazy and you went on assistance all because YOU were too lazy and wanted to "sit" on your butt rather than go to work to support the kids and family? 

Again, I am appalled - my ex husband worked and raised all 4 of his daughters alone without a cent from his ex wife and funny but HE could do it and still work while raising 4, 6 9 and 12 year old girls, what was your excuse for not working and having to collect welfare?  Some women just really make me sad to be called a female myself.  You are clearly vindictive and feed Kayla's hatred this whole time.  How sad for BOTH of you !  Get over it - and I still believe that you cheated and lived with his best friend, that was a fact brought up and not fiction. 


 
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November 6, 2007, 10:08 pm PST

I called off the wedding

 The nite my ex fiance (thank GOD for EX) - and I announced that I had gotten a ring to his mother she had the nerve to say oh yeah from WHO ?  Can we say WITCH ?  Then and there I told him the wedding would never happen and it didn't.  I took the ring back a few days later and sent him a refund check, changed my phone number to unpublished and never looked back.  If the fiance is standing by the wife then there must be something to this.  They have a right to have who THEY want at their wedding and the future witch in law can just butt out and stay home
 
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November 6, 2007, 10:18 pm PST

OMG give me a BREAK here !

  I watched the show today in total disgust.  The first gal clearly has some problems that therapy might help but the 17 year old is an attention seeking little spoiled brat who just wants everyone to fawn over her and tell her on a daily, if not minute by minute, basis how gorgeous and wonderful she is.  Dr Phil was totally right, no one with true disorder like this goes up on stage and shows off her "hideous" face and body and then speaks out about it - get real little girl and stop looking for constant reassurance.  I watched her and it wasn't her appearance that made her ugly it was her attitude, attention seeking and poor little me garbage.  There are people out in the world with no arms, no legs, burn victims etc, that have a true right to feel this way about themselves.  I have horrible scarring by nature and guess what ?  I am almost 50 years old and I have one particular nasty scar across my upper chest from an old surgery and I wear what I want, when I want and I dont stand in front of the mirror whining poor me poor me.  I also didnt do that for more than a half hour when I went in for a lumpectomy and came out with a breast GONE !    I am right with Dr Phil when he said that some people would say "get OVER yourself"
 
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November 8, 2007, 6:41 am PST

for skbruning

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He may well be right.  This world is more messed up than what I even thought was mentioned in the Bible and it has got it all!

 

You sound just educated enough to soon be dangerous!  (Jez kiddink....I hope you do someone some good some day. )

 

My point is that you don't know the answer either.  I said in an earlier post that Jesus said, "Come to me, all ye that are heavy-laden and I will give you rest."  Bottom line.

 

And I believe Him. 

 

Oh, BTW............alcoholism is  A CHOICE OF BEHAVIOR that then can lead to disease.  TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR 100% of YOUR LIFE!

 

At some point, one CHOOSES to go buy a bloody beer!

 

Stop the blame-game.  Because if one doesn't take responsibility FOR the behavior, one is then powerless to CHANGE the behavior.  Alcoholism  IS NOT "a disease".  Sheeeesh. 

 

NOW....before half the world jumps on me and tries to trounce me, it is fairly obvious that when a child LIVES IN AN ENVIRONMENT where someone is in the grips of the drink, of course, it affects them.  But at least in the early stages....it is a choice of behavior.  A choice of what to drink. One with alcoholics surrounding them might fall prey FASTER, and then of course, it TOXIFIES the body and wham....it takes over.  One drink and your mind is shot....gone....and then you no longer have power over taking another and another and another. 

 

So don't try to kick some preachers butt (America's new favorite past time) because believe me, THEY HAVE SEEN IT  A L L !  :o)

 Sorry you are dead wrong, drinking is a choice, the fact that it takes the person into its grips and turns it into a full blown alcoholic disease is beyond our control.   You probably also think that someone being bipolar or majorly depressed has a choice huh ? 

Oh wait, let me come back to read your answer after I take my morning meds that have kept me functioning for 10 years so I can work and be a mother and grandmother.  I WISH that this was all a choice, cause I sure wouldnt have chosen any of this for my life.

And FYI - I am a college educated female holding a good job and have been sober since June of 2000 thank you very much.  The alcoholism and drug addiction is my cross to bear each and every day, but I chose to not drink or use, but I dont have the choice to get rid of the underlying disease, only whether to make it active or not. 
 
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November 8, 2007, 6:49 am PST

put another way

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He may well be right.  This world is more messed up than what I even thought was mentioned in the Bible and it has got it all!

 

You sound just educated enough to soon be dangerous!  (Jez kiddink....I hope you do someone some good some day. )

 

My point is that you don't know the answer either.  I said in an earlier post that Jesus said, "Come to me, all ye that are heavy-laden and I will give you rest."  Bottom line.

 

And I believe Him. 

 

Oh, BTW............alcoholism is  A CHOICE OF BEHAVIOR that then can lead to disease.  TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR 100% of YOUR LIFE!

 

At some point, one CHOOSES to go buy a bloody beer!

 

Stop the blame-game.  Because if one doesn't take responsibility FOR the behavior, one is then powerless to CHANGE the behavior.  Alcoholism  IS NOT "a disease".  Sheeeesh. 

 

NOW....before half the world jumps on me and tries to trounce me, it is fairly obvious that when a child LIVES IN AN ENVIRONMENT where someone is in the grips of the drink, of course, it affects them.  But at least in the early stages....it is a choice of behavior.  A choice of what to drink. One with alcoholics surrounding them might fall prey FASTER, and then of course, it TOXIFIES the body and wham....it takes over.  One drink and your mind is shot....gone....and then you no longer have power over taking another and another and another. 

 

So don't try to kick some preachers butt (America's new favorite past time) because believe me, THEY HAVE SEEN IT  A L L !  :o)

By your way of thinking all the people that chose to smoke also chose to get lung cancer ?  Sorry makes no sense.  They choose to smoke period NOT get a disease from it. 
 

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