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September 28, 2005, 5:49 pm PDT

daughter is dead

My beautiful daughter, Courtney, age 19, hanged herself in her bedroom last August 20, 2004--just a year ago.  She was beautiful, had a boyfriend, successful, and had everything to live for.  In her H.S. yearbook, she is described as the "bubbly blonde cheerleader with the Bimmer."  She went to UGA for her freshman year and her sorority has confirmed this being on campus--her boyfriend went to GA Tech and is a practice on that campus also.  Also, she was voted "Most Likely to Succeed" among her competitive senior class.  I have been researching this for a year--feel it may be the reason.  Just today, I learned that a girl on her cheerleading squad is STILL doing this.  We are a family in crisis--married to a counselor.  We have a 6 year old daughter to raise--she misses her "Sissy" so.  I need emails and help with this--I have emailed Dr. Phil and Robin several times--no response--I have been an educator for 22 years and have taken such good care of EVERYONE'S children, yet, sadly, could not save my own.  Please take a moment to email--don't know how much longer I can last--I do a great job at work--but home is different.  I am struggling to hang on to life.  Many thanks, Stephanie
 
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September 28, 2005, 8:46 pm PDT

READ THIS--My child is dead

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Dear Sarah, 

Thank you so much for sharing your story on the Dr. Phil show. I was shocked by the whole "game". Totally in the dark about all this. When I picked my middle school daughter up from school I had tears because I had just watched the Dr. Phil show, so I told her why I was upset. To my total shock again.. she knew about the holding the breath game (where they breath extremely heavy several times then hold their breath and bend to the ground and jump up fast causing them to land on pillows prepared in front of them).  She said she actually witnessed it before. I was in awe. I asked her why the girl(s) did it. She said because they get totally out of it and you can ask them a question (eg. who are you in love with? or have a crush on?) and they will answer and not remember anything after.  Wow! Was I in the dark. So, Sarah, thank you for enlightening me on the whole thing, this brought me to talk to my daugher, now I am going to our church to talk to our fellow religious education teachers and am also hoping to get the school to inform parents about these terrible life threatening teen games. Again, thank you Sarah!!!!!!!! May God comfort you and bless you and your son every day of you lives! In Christian love, Robin 

Please refer to my posting "daughter is dead" for details--I am an educator of 22 years, my husband , the same.  We have been researching this for the past year--since Courtney's death--19--everything to live for.  This had been around in several forms for years--since the 60's!  In the middle eighties, I remember going to a workshop on this topic--it was about young boys hanging themselves in their closets--while sexually gratifying themselves--wow--how it has changed.  Do what I did today--call your local schools and speak with every counselor and ask them the explain the dangers of this--I found my daughter hanging from her bed--can you even imagine?   Stephanie 

 
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September 28, 2005, 8:50 pm PDT

Daughter is Dead!

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I hate to admit it but this is nothing new.  We were doing this when I was in junior high, over 40 years ago.  Only thing different was we didn't choke each other.  Here's what we did.  With one girl standing behind me, I bent over forward, placing hands on knees and took 3 huge breaths in and out.  On the 3rd extremely deep breath, I hold in the air and stand up.  The girl behind me locks her arms around my ribs and then squeezes my chest as tightly as she can and just holds on.  My head begins to tingle, then my lips, my hands and then after about 2-3 minutes I being to go black.  Shortly after that, she lets me drop onto the bed.  I'm now in a twilight state.  Eyes are closed and the tingling is very extreme.  I move my tongue around in my mouth and get the tingling all around my mouth.  I am out for about 30 seconds or so, I guess, who knows.  I want to open my eyes but I can't yet. I don't have control over my body yet.  I can hear the girls laughing about how red my face it, and saying I don't look like I'm breathing, and they laugh some more, I look so silly.  Finally the rush is over and I open my eyes.  We all sit around on the bed and I share the experience with my friends and then its the next girl's turn.  Wasn't that fun?? 

  

Where were my parents?  At work, and being an only child, we usually come to my house cuz I don't have any siblings to tattle on us so its safe to be there.   

  

So if you think your sweet little Linda wouldn't do that, think again.  If you think your straight A student, James has no time for such nonesense, I'd check my thinking if I were you.  This is peer pressure and besides even though they've heard the 'scare tactic' stories, we know that could NEVER happen to us.  After all, we know how to do it the right way, we're smarter than that. 

I have been doing research on this since I found my daughter age 19 hanging from her bed a little over a year ago--thanks for sharing what I really already knew--please pray for our family--we are an affluent, well educated, upper-middle-class family in rural GA--Please refer to my post for details about my daughter--age 19--would have been 20 now.  post title "daughter is dead"  thanks, Stephanie 

 
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September 28, 2005, 8:58 pm PDT

Refer to my post

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I dropped my 3 year old yes THREE year old off at pre-school today and I overheard one of the other mothers telling her son (3 years old) that she was going out of town and so and so would be picking him up from school and then she told him when she would be home. 

That was fine and dandy what came next is what shocked me... she asked him where his cell phone was... I thought at first she must be talking about a toy, even my daughter has a little princess PLAY cell phone. however when he said he left it at home she raised her voice a little and asked why he left it at home and why it wasn't in his bag.... I thought this is not right., or I am not hearing right... then she asked if he had plugged it into his charger. MY MOUTH DROPPED> 

a three year old with a REAL cell phone... FOR WHAT!!
I understand she is going out of town but why would a three year old need a cell phone. 

I think this is why our kids are hooked on these items. We GIVE them to them at such young ages. 

I have a 14 year old who asks all the time for a cell phone. My answer is NO. there is no where she will ever be where she would need a cell phone to get a hold of me at. She is where I take her and if not she is in trouble. She is allowed computer time but I have time limits for her to use the cojmputer. She doesn't have free reign of these items.  Everything in moderation and it is up to the parents to moderate the privledges. These should be a priveledge not something they just get because they are kids. 

IMO 

  

Tammy 

really, is this all you have to worry about?  Please refer to my post "Daughter is Dead" and then you will really know what to stress about!  Stephanie
 
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September 28, 2005, 9:20 pm PDT

Feel your pain

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This subject does not go away as these children get older, it simply becomes AEA. I would consider it the adult version of the game. You can research it on the web if you want to know its history. My brother died from it five years ago and my family still has not come to terms with it. Nobody wants to talk about, not even the celebrity families that have lost loved ones this way. These are thrill seeking children and adults. They are not any different than people who jump out of planes, race fast cars or ride motorcycles. They know what they do is unsafe, that is the thrill for them. They truly do not think it will kill them. Teenagers are especially vunerable, because they think they are indestructible. We all thought we were at that age. You need to find these children an outlet for their energy. The people who do this are quite often of very high intellect, maybe lacking in common sense, but certainly not lacking intellligence. They are simply bored, unchallenged and are looking for excitement. This problem will not go away by simply talking about it. Get them involved in other things so they are not sitting around with nothing to do after school. This kids need our time not our instructions.
I so feel your pain--I found my 19 year old daughter hanging from her bed about a year ago--please see my post "Daughter is Dead"  and you will understand.  Stephanie
 
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September 28, 2005, 9:36 pm PDT

09/27 Shocking Teen Trends

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Hi  i read your post.I am sure that Sarah doesn't mean to be distancing herself from Samuel i think she probably is trying so hard to see that this is not going to happen to another child.I know by reading the old boards that this something she has been fighting for so we can keep our kids safe from this dangerous game.I too hope that she does stayed connected to Samuel also.I am sure he needs to be reassured too.I will be watching this also and my 15 yr old by my side as well.She has heard of this game and says its nothing new its been around along time.Although she has seen it she says she would never particpate in it.But i will be having her watch also since i have beeen campaigning to get this on air on the old boards before these ones came up.That was where i first heard of it thanks to Sarah's website i saw and read. www.lovingmygabriel.com  . thanks again to Sarah and my deepest sympathies to her and samuel and the rest of the family.Also to those who have lost someone due to this dangerous game.cathy
the previous post is correct--I found my 19 year old daug'dhter hanging from her bed a year ago--I was an emotional wreck and had little time for my five year old--other had to step in and take charge.  Don't be so quick to judge--it can happen to anyone.  My daughter was popular in HS, gifted, voted "Most Likely to Succeed", varsity cheerleader....the list goes on and on.  In her Senior HS yearbook, she was known as the "bubbly blonde cheerleader with the beemer"--you just canunderstand until you've been there--refer to my post "Daughter is Dead"  by steph_42
 
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September 28, 2005, 10:03 pm PDT

What????????/////////////////////

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Hi as a fellow EMT former one that is due to back injury (thats besides the point)i can relate to the calls yes and the blanant disregard for their own lives but i really wouldn't say all 13 yr olds or 14 yr olds should know better.why would they?They don't stop to study the effects of these foolish and dangerous games.They see they do thats it all in fun in their eyes till something goes wrong and then they should be able to see for themselves the dangers but its like oh that won't happen to me .I am a parent and i really hope that my daughter who is 15 can take something away from Gabriels story we as parents need to make these kids more aware.Look at my posting below we had three young adults do the exact same thing and look at their ages!We need to get this word out and i did send a recommendation in for this show and probably alot of parents along with Sarah Gabriels's mom before these new boards came up i posted on the old boards and saw the website for Sarah' story  www.lovingmygabriel.com. I was morified when i read this more womans story from a parents aspect not the EMT side. 

I am highly offended by your post--I certainly wouldn't want you to work in my area!  Obviously, you have not found your child hanging in their bedroom--Both Sara and I have--please refer to my post "daughter is dead."  By the way, I TAUGHT middle school students for 18 years and they DO NOT realize the danger.  Stephanie 

 
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September 28, 2005, 10:20 pm PDT

Mother in Pain

As Sara, I am a mother in pain.  I have read and responded to many posts about this matter.  I apologize if I upset anyone.  When a person posts his/her opinions and concerns, one should not take to heart--well tonight I did.  I walked into my home on August 20, 2004 and found my 19 year-old daughter hanging from her bed.  My husband and I are both in education--both teaching in middle school for a number of years--he 8, me 18--my husband is now a counselor and I am a media specialist.  Combined, we have about 44 years experience in education and caring for and cherishing children.  Courtney was a beautiful girl.  Please refer to my original post of "Daughter is Dead" for details from steph_42.  I got a little rough with some posts--I'm sorry--just trying to survive and raise my six year old.  For everyone who reads this, please pray for our family.  We are in pain and crisis. Sincerely, Stephanie
 
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September 29, 2005, 7:40 pm PDT

thank you so much

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Dear Stephanie, I have read your post's and I want to express to you how sorry I am for your loss. I have recently loss my mother and father, and even though I am not a mother, and have not experienced a loss of a child, I do know what it's like to lose someone you love, and I sympathize with you. I feel your pain, and I know that even though a year has passed, you can still remember it like yesterday, and you still grieve her, and you still think about her everyday. I know how hard it can be, and how you can feel lost, and almost as if apart of you is dead as well. I'm sure you feel sometimes, how can I still be living, when I hurt so much? I relate, b/c I too still feel that way at times, but I tell you dwelling on the past, will only make you crazy, and bring you down... Celebrate your daughters life, and know that her spirit is always with you, and that you will reunite w/ her one day, and in the meantime, keep doing what you're doing, even if it's getting on here and spreading awareness about this topic! More people need to be aware of how Dangerous this is, and you have already helped me in seeing that! And now, I can relay this information to everyone I know, and hopefully prevent this from happening to anyone I know. I admire you so much for talking about what you have went through, and about what you're currently going through. I too have e mailed Dr.Phil for help, and have no responce, but if he has to respond to anyone, I believe it should be you! I want you to know that you are in my prayers, along w/ your family.... I hope that you will try to stay optimistic, and slowly rebuild your life. I wish you the best of luck with everything, and I I have prayed for your Daughter as well... Take Care.
Your words were like music to my ears.  Thank you for helping me tonight--I was SOO low when I responded to the message board last night.  I did post an apology--I am really pissed off by the EMT who defended himself--Thank you so much--I do need help--professional--and not my husband!  Bless his heart--he spoiled her so--you cannot imagine how much this email brings to me--some hope, some peace---I will pray for your peace, do the same for me--if you ever need to talk, I am an insomannic---email me anytime--I'll get back to you within several hours.  Thank you dear angel, Stephanie
 
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September 30, 2005, 6:00 am PDT

not you

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Hi Steph 42 if you were referring to my post to you. there are two EMT'S here so i assume you meant my post !!! I was not defending myself i don't know what i'm suppose to be defending myself against.And if it is me you talk about?I'M a She not a He .I am a mother of a 15 yr old and a 22 yr old.Again i don't know how i offended you and if you feel like responding thats fine and if not well that's fine as well but please do not attack me for expressing my view like i said in my last post to you ,I am just trying to make everyone aware of the dangers of this game so where was i offending you please explain that part.I do not not get it at all.thanks and again i am sorry for your loss.
Sorry, it was the other person! 
 

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