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October 3, 2005, 8:16 am PDT

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I breastfed one of my 4 kids for 12 months. The others I didn't. I really don't remember breastfeeding in public. Although it doesn't bother me to see a mom breastfeed her baby WITHOUT TEETH in public. What would be an interesting subject is talking to mom's who breastfeed their older children.....?????? Kindergarden? And that's not funny, but they have that Le Leche Club thing and some woman either culturally or for whatever reason go beyond what is necessarily. At least in my opinion. Anyone else ever hear of this?

I'm very insulted that you would make comments like this. I still breastfeed my 17 month old son. It's the healthiest, most natural thing to do. Eventhough my son didn't get TEETH until he was 10 months, some get them very early... why on earth should a mother STOP breastfeeding her child because of teeth? You said you breastfed only one of your children for 12 months... did they not have teeth yet?!?! Why would you take away the HEALTHIEST, MOST LOVING, PERFECT nourishment your child could have?! That just seems ignorant to me. Please do more research before making prejudicial comments like that in the future. LaLecheLeague helps TONS of new moms in the quest for breastfeeding, no matter how long they intend to do so. They're an amazing group of women. Oh and in honor of the intended questions... YES! I would breastfeed my baby anywhere, anytime. People don't have to look. I don't look at things I don't like. Babies should be respected before others, it's just my opinion. When they CAN understand to hold on and wait, great... but in the meantime- keep giving those babies the greatest food on earth.

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October 3, 2005, 6:26 pm PDT

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Your Question: "Why would you take away the HEALTHIEST, MOST LOVING, PERFECT nourishment your child could have?!" Well, 2 of my kids had milk allergies so that put them both on special formulas. Honestly..... if I had another kid..... I don't think I would breastfeed for alot of reasons. Like I said if another mom wants to do it that is fine with me. To me it just doesn't fit into today's lifestyle. You can spend quality time with your baby and so can others without having to breastfeed. It is one of those personal decisions that perhaps bring benefits, but so do a whole lot of other choices.

Hmmm, well if your child had a milk allergy- breastmilk would have been the best thing. Secondly, you're reasoning is exactly what's wrong with society. Babies are little human beings, we as the parents are supposed to mold our lives to benefit them- they're not supposed to mold into ours (lifestyle). I think that mentally is very sad. Quality of time has nothing to do with doing what is healthiest for baby and for mom. In my opinion- if you have breasts and you have a baby and milk is coming out- it's not only an obligation but a right that child has to utmost respect in nutrition. There' s no use arguing with you. I just think it's really sad.

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October 5, 2005, 2:20 pm PDT

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Am I for Real? I think maybe I should be asking you this when you say: "A very long time ago, women who were lactating would nurse the elderly, so they could keep up their strength."

***gasps***** Woah! breastfeeding grandma? Now this is crossing the line! I would go as far to call it sacreligous.

Now comforting a screaming two year old tantrum with breastfeeding is one thing, but breastfeeding grandma is wrong. There are a whole lot of other ways to provide grandma with strength. But that subject probably doesn't belong on the Dr. Phil show, but on the Jerry Springer show.

Well, it's obvious that maybe you need to do a little bit more research before making comments. On one hand, it's not OK to breastfeed in public but it's OK if it's going to calm down a 2 year old and his tantrum? Ok... which is it? And as for the Jerry Springer comment- I won't even make any suggestions. I think it's just very sad the way you think. I think it's very sad that our society has labeled breasts as sexual objects and made it a "sexual" thing to breastfeed a toddler. Why aren't we focusing more on people that ARE actually out there looking to prey on children and continue to encourage a natural, healthy bond?! Just sad, really.

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October 5, 2005, 6:12 pm PDT

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OK OK OK. Let's BACK, BACK, BACK, BACK, BACK UP! All right I don't even want to go there... BUT Let's retrack and clarify. 1st My first comment was that Mother's who breastfeed older children meaning close to Kindergarden might make an interesting discussion which it has. AND YOU ALL HAVE ENLIGHTENED ME and I WOULD GO AS FAR AS TO SAY SHOCKED ME that you include BREASTFEEDING THE ELDERLY in your pursuit. Now I don't have a problem at all with breastfeeding babies and I am ok with comforting toddlers. I don't think it is sexual at all. NOW I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BREASTFEEDING THE ELDERLY and it is kind of Sexual. And I still believe it belongs on the Jerry Springer show with the adults who wear diapers in public. And if it is not sexual to breastfeed the elderly. It is at least WEIRD. At least in my opinion.

If you go back and read what the OP was referring to, it was a long time ago and it helped heal the sick. She didn't say that they held their grandparents to the breast and had them suckle. Quite frankly though, if we lived back then, it might not have seemed odd. Society has done a good job (including people like yourself) to sexualize breastfeeding. I don't remember ANYONE saying we wanted to add bfing older people in our pursuit. I think you're trying to take one thing someone said out of complete context to make your statements seem justified. It's just not going to happen. And unless you've PERSONALLY breastfed a 5 year old, I don't think it's fair to comment on them being weird. In most cultures (not only human but animal cultures) you'd be the oddball.

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October 6, 2005, 8:59 am PDT

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I sincerely doubt that ANY babies/children died because their mothers couldn't provide formula. Don't start a rumor that you can't back up with facts please. Urban myths aside, I did hear a woman worry that she only had one more can of formula for her baby. Not one mention afterwards of starving babies at all.

I would be more concerned about contaminated water mixing with formula than running out of the stuff. It's one of the primary reasons in third world regions that WHO supports breastfeeding as long as possible.

Actually, you are wrong. Babies and young children (along with adults) died from dehydration. Why? Because there wasn't even water- what makes you think there was formula? Wouldn't you need water? We're talking about the first few days here. I'm sorry but I watched the news constantly and there were PLENTY of stories of babies dying from dehydration.

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