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October 5, 2005, 7:39 pm PDT

10/05 Moms: Cut the Chaos

Quote From: cinemaven

I just wandered through that website and it's really awesome. "we can do anything for 15 minutes" ... turns out I'm a flylady and didn't even know it since I HATE housework but I figure taking 15 minutes in the morning and again 3 other times of the day isn't so hard. If I had to spend a full hour doing something I don't like, I'd likely just keep putting it off.  

  

Thanks for this resource :) and welcome 

I used to use flylady.  But her belief that "if you can get out of bed, you can do your housework" doesn't hold true at my house.  I crawl otu of bed some days because I am a mom and my bedroom is far away from where my kids are.  When pain levels are so high, I may be out of bed, but housework? Nope. I can't.   

  

I still employ some of her ideas, but I despise shoes, and her belief that kids and hubbie will, eventually, start helping is .. well... not always true.  Hubbie hasn't picked up a thing.   

  

Flylady has some good stuff, but beware. Her emails will fill your box to overflowing.  I needed to declutter my inbox far more often than my house! LOL  (not quite) 

  

 
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October 6, 2005, 4:11 am PDT

10/05 Moms: Cut the Chaos

Quote From: taleyasmom

    I think that these women should try being a single mom of 2 kids and have to work clean the house drive everyone where they need to go take the kids to school and go to work and do that for 4 straight years and then we can talk about being tired!!! 

  

I think perhaps playinga comparing game does no one any good.  We are all in different circumstances, we all have different struggles.  Supporting each other instead of saying "let them walk in MY shoes and see how they feel" would be more helpful to everyone I think. Ourselves included!    Those who feel your life is harder - maybe you need to live there's for a time as well.   

  

 
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October 6, 2005, 4:13 am PDT

10/05 Moms: Cut the Chaos

Quote From: punkbabies

Have you tried some sort of positive reinforcement? I have a three-year-old and  a two-year-old, both boys. They both make their beds every morning and they both help me clean up after dinner. They scrape plates and help me load the dishwasher. On the weekends they help me dust and do some other little things. They both have marble jars. I got two little jars and let them decorate them with stickers and other things. Then they got to pick out which color of marbles they wanted. They get marbles for the things they do. Like, if they do all of their morning stuff without too much resistance then they both get three marbles. Now, they don't do the things 'my' way, but I just had to let go of that. They are learning to help and are really proud of the fact that they made their bed or that they helped mom with dinner. When they get a certain number of marbles then they get a reward. Hope this helps!

I have to vaccum in secret, as my 3 yr old considers it HIS job. <grin>  And mostly I let him do it, but sometimes I just need to do it a little faster and a little better job.  So thats when It's my turn to help and his turn to have a rest. hehe.   

  

But finding jobs they liked to do and then letting  that be their turf,  sometimes asking if I can help them... It gives them a real feeling of being important and there's nothing like that to keep motivation running.   

 
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October 6, 2005, 4:22 am PDT

10/05 Moms: Cut the Chaos

Quote From: cinemaven

17 month old babies aren't bullies.  

They have so few ways to express themselves that biting (which gets an immediate and overwhelming reaction) is a very effective way to get attention. This is also a time of teething which keeps constant attention on their mouths. Your baby feels no pain when he bites and he gets a big payback.  

  

When your little one bites his brother, try saying NO, handing him an icy rag to chew on (or whatever his favourite teething implement is), place him in a confined area (high chair or playpen) and then turn all your attention on his older brother. He's being a very responsible sibling by not hitting back and he deserves to be cuddled at this time but most importantly, it will show the li'l one that when he bites his brother, he doesn't get the attention, it goes to his brother. 

  

I would also be very careful about labelling your boys in your own mind at this time. Your 3 year old isn't a crybaby because he already understands that his brother is a baby and he's been hurt so crying is a good response. The 17 month old isn't a bully, he just doesn't have the tools to express himself yet. It's a phase that passes if the children who bite and hit don't get any kind of positive reinforcement or a great deal of attention for having done it. 

  

Both your li'l ones are still far from being verbal enough to be able to do more than hit or cry but I promise you it'll get much better soon. :) The biting is common until about 2 1/2 and your 3 year old will soon be able to communicate his hurt and his brother will soon be able to understand it.  

  

oh believe me, 17 month olds CAN be bullies!!!  No, it's not the same intentional kind of bulllying that some adults (even on this board!!) do, but it's certainly a bullying thing!! I've seen it in action and it's very hard to deal with. 

  

But your suggestions are great.  Give the other child the attention and put the biting one in a confined area.   

  

  

 
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October 6, 2005, 4:25 am PDT

10/05 Moms: Cut the Chaos

Quote From: mrsmedic

so why do you come to a mothers board about cutting chaos if you're not interested in the topic, and find our discussing it whining?  

   

Some of us ENJOY having support from other moms who love their life but get very frustrated.  If you don't like it, don't read it!  (end of quote) 

  

To which someone responded: 

  

  I want you to know i found your post a bit Harsh and you seem to be complaing of not seeing the 1 child you have . Well quit your job and be a stay at home mom . I am a stay at home mom of 7 ages 14,12,11,9,6,5,2 . we are a blended family . AndGod has blessed me w/ 5 children of my own w/ 2 step kids .I dont beleve you have a right to ask the woman to get her tubes tied . or to say for anyone to stop having kids . W/ 7 kids  this yr i finally have 6 in school i clean my home everyday . as soon as 6 kids hit home at 1 time it is a mess clutterd . I have homework ,supper, dance classes,dr app, dentist app, and so on  Just because i stay at home doesnt mean in any way i dont work my job is 24/7  if my kids are sick i get up my days start at 3 some days at 6 others . I never have a set schedule . Am i complaing no . do i get stressed yes , overwhelmed yes.. But until you walked in our shoes  dont judge people i have had 1 kid and worked i had 6 and worked 40 hrs a week along w/ my hubby .  My family is first now  I am at home where i need to be . and i have a right to get stressed . Just as you go to work and it sounds like that stresses you out ..   I am assuming this was aimed at the person I was responding to, not to me? Cuz your life sounds too much like mine for you to find me offensive. LOL  
 
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October 6, 2005, 4:45 am PDT

My Friend/Relative Won't Discipline!

Quote From: susan876

All of the children over the years I dealt with, who were disciplined by spanking behaved  

like the people's above. I found it made permanent wild children. The parents would criticize  

others for having better sense while theirs became meaner and they would blame their behavior    

on treating them to well, to protect violence's reputation. So I don't assume children are treated  

nonviolently if they misbehave.  

you need to meet my children.  They've been spanked but they're not wild. They're normal, well behaved but certainly with their moments children.   

  

spanking isn't violence but I'm not sure there is any point in going there. 

  

 
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October 6, 2005, 4:48 am PDT

Homeschooling

Quote From: cadreamin

Hi,  

I too have a son who is 13, ADD and just diagnosed with Cyclothymic Disorder - I'm not too sure what that is but I guess from what I understand it is like "pre-bipolar".... We were all so frustrated with middle school last year that I attempted to homeschool my son for the last three months of the year. I found a wonderful book "Homeschooling your child for free" It was jam packed with great websites and other useful information. Check it our at your local library!  

   

I wish you the best with homeschooling.  

   

CAdreamin  

I love that book!!! 

  

  

 
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October 6, 2005, 4:56 am PDT

Homeschooling

Quote From: smmacleod

Well, I am hopeschooling my two boys this year. We started in the summer. We do 1/2 days 6 days a week and then our Sunday lesson. Both of my boys are Bi-Polar/ADHD etc. There are days we do a page and stop for 15 minutes. It depends on their activity and attention. After we move I am hoping to put them in a gymnastics or martial arts. I want them to have the activity and contact. 

  

I am willing to take any advice. I just ordered Switched On Schoolhouse which are used in the ADHD/Bi-Polar schools I looked into. There are tons of free items on-line. SM MacLeod 

My advice? Remember that learning happens in many situations.  It doesn't have to be from books.  Doing, reading, watching, every situation in life can be a learning one.   

  

Can you tell I'm an unschooling mom? :) But seriously, have FUN with it, don't let learning become drudgery for you or your children.  So long as you're having fun learning they will continue to want to.  So long as there is desire, there will be joy.  It's full circle.   

 
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October 6, 2005, 4:57 am PDT

Homeschooling

Quote From: missshari

 

 I homeschool my daughters, well just one this year cause my 16 year old graduated this past June after six years of homeschooling. Our 11 year old will be homeschooled this year, we start homeschooling from 5th grade on,cause I don't like the class size for the uppper grades and I always find out that my girls can't do basic math. 

 Our 11 year old daughter is ADHD with violent tendencies,not on medication cause when she is allowed to be a child,she is fine also with positive behavior modifications she has learned to control herself. 

  We use Sonlight ...just the catalog for great book recommendations, many free resources,cause I don't care for "box curriculum" as I don't like the structure and the amount of time that it requires. I have a friend who uses ABEKA video and to me that is just like being in a classroom,but she isn't planning on homeschooling through highschool. 

  Sounds like you are doing what you have found that works best for you and that is most important. We are starting the Monday after Labor Day,and following a Christian School's Calendar in our area, that doesn't take alot of days off. 

  Having outside activities is great,just don't get yourself to stretched cause that will cause burnout and such. 

 

Shari 

Our 11 year old daughter is ADHD with violent tendencies,not on medication cause when she is allowed to be a child,she is fine  

 

I love that attitude. I wish more parents would be willing to work on that.  I know some kids who could really benefit from it! 

  

 
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October 6, 2005, 9:32 am PDT

10/05 Moms: Cut the Chaos

Quote From: missjane2

I have a friend who all she ever does is fold clothes.   Every time I ever visited... that is what she was doing or there was a pile of clothes in her living room waiting to be folded.  I mean she folded clothes for HOURS.   One day I looked at her and said Ya know I don't think I fold clothes at all.  Every item of clothing goes on a hanger.  Every one hangs up their own clothes. Socks have a separate drawer, Underwear has a separate drawer, Accessories have a separate drawer.  I am a believer in CLEAR PLASTIC containers that stack up in each closet:  one with nail stuff, another with hair stuff, thankyou notes, etc. etc.  So you can easily see thru what is in the container and if it is not perfectly organized.... you at least know it is in the specific box designated for that stuff.

Folding clothes is something you can easily do while visiting. I often leave my clothes to fold while I have someone to talk to.  Anyone who stopped by my house often would think I do nothing else.  What the actual fact is that I save it to do then, it's something that needs doing and it's something I can do mindlessly.   

  

  My 3 yr old helps to fold his own clothes, he could never get them on hangers.  Same with my 10 yr old. she's disabled and can get her own clothes put away but there is no way on earth I could let her go off with hangers in her hand.   That and we simply do not have closet room for hangers. This old house was build before closets were invented I'm sure of it!!   

  

I wish I had closet space for clear plastic containers, but alas, I don't.  

 

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