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October 6, 2005, 6:45 pm PDT

10/05 Moms: Cut the Chaos

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Flylady is awesome.  I have done it on & off for about 3 yrs but 4 months ago I teamed up with a girl from church who also had "fluttered" for a couple of years, and we now email each other daily and hold one another accountable.  It has done wonders for us.  When one of is down and out we build the other up.  It has been awesome.  Flyladies philosophies work and she is very encouraging.  If you don't want to read all the emails just delete.  Do the daily mission, work in you zones, but most important develop your own routines and get a "system" for yourself.  At least you are making headway.  Do not expect immediate results, it takes months to actually get totally into it.  And if you can a partner it works much better.    

   The mental aspects of her site are the best thing about it, she teaches you to stop wallowing in your pool of self-pity and do something about it!!!!!! 

BTW  I am originally from Tennesssee, you know the "barefoot hillbilly"" type and the shoes are the key.  They really do work.  I get dressed and put them on every morning and they don't come off until the kids are in bed and I'm finished with everything.  It is amazing how much more productive you are with shoes.  If you'd ask me 3 years ago about that I'd have told you you were insane!!!!!! 

  

Hang in there girls you can get through it, I honestly would not allow people in my front door 3 years ago.  Now I love see people coming.   

It's interesting how different we all are! Shoes did NOT work for me, and I've done much better since realizing that I can take them off and not fail at housekeeping. LOL   

  

as for wallowing in my pool of self pity - if being chronically ill and not being ABLE to clean is wallowing then I am guilty.  I'm doing the best I am able.  It's not as good as I'd like, and I keep trying to do better but most days simply can't.  flylady makes no exceptions for those of us with disabilities.  I found myself feeling like a failure becuase I couldn't keep up to her expectations. Thats part of why I left.  But, I took the ideas I liked from her and kept with them, and they've helped.  The biggest problem however is ability/ time and energy.  But hey, one day my house will be all I'll have to do. Maybe it will be tidy then. :)  More likely I'll be finding other things to do of more lasting value. LOL 

  

 
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October 6, 2005, 6:59 pm PDT

10/05 Moms: Cut the Chaos

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First of all my husband is in the fire department and works 24 hours, so I do know alittle something about what it's like to be alone the kid doing everything! I'm not a martyr... I don't believe I said that a man shouldn't help out. I believe I said that all things things should be discussed  before entering into a marriage that you know the man expects alot and the woman should do everything. I have a brother in law like that. I don't think it's right and I don't agree with it. What I'm saying is that women that don't work really shouldn't be complaining about all the work they do. There are plenty of women out there like myself do all of that and work outside the home and have other activities.  Understand??? Get a grip! 

Yes, we understand. You get to go out and have adult contact every day!  Let me see, the last adult outting I had was........  well, if you count the quick snack hubbie and I grabbed before picking up kids on Wed, it was Wed. If you count a real outting it was a couple weeks ago.   

  

Yes, you said things should be discussed.  I believe I commented on how reality is often VERY different from what is normally discussed and how life throws you curves you never expected.  Discussing things before marriage is NO guarantee that a relationship is going to be smooth.  Perhaps you are fotunate in that it did in yours.  that doesn't put you in a position to cast judgement on the rest of us.   

  

We're not stupid. We do understand, and gosh, being stay at home moms we have a good grip or we'd be in rubber rooms.  Today in fact, that sounds appealing to me!! 

 
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October 6, 2005, 7:06 pm PDT

10/05 Moms: Cut the Chaos

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First of all discussing is one thing, whinning is another. I understand support, but I think some of you just want an excuse to whin about "all" the work  they do as a "housewife" I do that and work full time and go to school also. I know its hard, I'm not saying that, I just get tired of hearing how stay at home moms are so "stressed out".  Imagine working full time "outside" the home, and school,  spouse's in school and working full time. I'm so tired of hearing about how stay at home moms work so hard.  I think the point to this message board is to post your thoughts and opinions... There are some people out there that have opposing views and if you don't like what I said, don't read it!!! 

I don't need an excuse to whine.  I'm 38 and nobody needs to give me permission.  <g> 

  

stay at home moms DO work hard, why is that so hard to hear?  I have worked full time, parented, yada yada.  Oh the adult conversation of those days!!!!!!!!!!!!  the 12 hr shifts of no kids. Ahhhh....  Hubbie was home with them when I was gone, it was the perfect set up.  Unfortunately it ended.  That life was much much easier than this one. 

  

  

  

  

  

  

 
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October 6, 2005, 7:08 pm PDT

10/05 Moms: Cut the Chaos

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I worked in a daycare for a year in the age 1-2 room when I was 17 and for the first li'l while, I couldn't believe that such adorable cherubs could be so EVIL *lol*. The amazing woman who worked there full time explained to me that I just didn't know how to talk to them or listen to them yet. She saw every negative behaviour as a way to teach the child and to learn from the child and she seemed to know exactly why a child was cranky or angry or fussy.  

  

To watch her when one of our "wee ones" came in when they were screaming was magic. She could tell a tummy ache from a tooth ache from sleepiness and she could calm them in minutes. Mom's adored her because she always made them feel like they had the most wonderful baby in the room. She's the one who taught me the frustration of not being able to communicate your pain/hunger/anger/needs and who let me know that if I just learned the language, I could keep them from biting or hitting or screaming.  

  

They always left her room perfect... only to be ruined by the 2-3 teacher 

  

Years later, when I had my own child, I couldn't believe how long it took me to relearn the language. I felt so inept but I'd try to channel her and figure out what she would have told me. WWJD was always on my mind but the J stood for Jeannie *lol* 

oh I agree that negative behaviour is a way  teach them and learn from them! As mom to four who did daycare for 12 yrs, I've put my time in too.   

  

I somehow doubt they were perfect... maybe well behaved? :) 

  

  

 
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October 7, 2005, 5:55 am PDT

10/05 Moms: Cut the Chaos

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I am a 42 year old stay-at-home Mom, with an 11 year old and a baby on the way, and I seem to have plenty of time!  In fact, I have more time on my hands than I care to have.  My home is not a mess, I get everything done and I am not going crazy running around.  I also DONT have my husband home all the time!  He is on the road as a truck driver for a few weeks at a time so I am able to run the house in my own way.  I definately notice the difference in the home when he DOES come home.  Sure, we miss each other like crazy while he's gone, but we talk several times a day so it always seems as though he is not far.  But, on the other hand, the house is always peaceful and quiet and there's plenty of time to get things done, and I am under no "time frames" to have things done.  They get done when I get them done!  It's wonderful! 

You're a fortunate woman! :)  I think many of us would find our lives simpler with just one child, and an older child at that.  I know my 12 and 16 yr olds are pretty easy to take care of.  They even do some of the cooking for me!  It's the numerous little ones in our families that bring chaos to our homes.   

  

But we love them anyways. LOL 

 
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October 7, 2005, 2:04 pm PDT

Strangers and my children

I do not want strangers talking to my children.  Not even saying nice things!  I noticed on the show it was asked something like "how come I can say nice things, but not tell them they're bothering me".  Well, I don't want either said to my children by strangers.  I teach them not to talk to strangers and if I see a stranger talking to them you can be sure I will be right there faster than you can say boo. However, if one of my kids were to kick someone, or intentionally bother them in some way, I want to know.  I would want to deal with it.  But that would mean talking to ME.  Same if someone wants to compliment my children. Tell me and I'll pass it on. 

  

  

 
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October 7, 2005, 2:18 pm PDT

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Nope, never eaten in the bathroom.  Have you ever tried to eat while you were watching naked people?  It will make you lose your appetite just as eating in a bathroom!  

  

so where do you go to eat while watching naked people? Nude beaches? I can't think of anywhere else you'd find them.   

  

Nursing mothers are not naked.  Women in low cut shirts and skirts that barely cover their butts are closer to it. now THAT is disgusting. 

  

  

 
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October 8, 2005, 6:20 am PDT

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1st of all, I have to admit that I am not a very good public nurser.  If and when I have to do it, I am pretty discrete about it.  With my son I over produced so he was very good about breast and bottle...I simply pumped and took a bottle along.  It was very convenient for me.  I could sit down and pump 20 oz easily.  My daughter on the other hand will not take a bottle and I am not producing like I was with my son.  I can no longer pump out a bottle like I used to.  I have friends who struggle to pump a half an ounce.  There are allot of reasons why some breastfeeding mom's simply can't bottle feed....and I don't think they or I should be ostracized to make the public comfortable.       

  

With my son, I had a very hard time pumping or expressing any.  I didn't have enough to feed him and had to supplement.  so, in that sense I *could* take a bottle into public.  BUT. I had to nurse him first, he had to get as much mommy milk as there was, that I was determined about.  And then With a bottle he dealt with nipple confusion and began to refuse the breast.  That bottle disappeared so fast!  There are "contraptions" out there to feed your baby formula while they are nursing, which fills them (when mom has not enough milk) and it keeps them sucking which helps to boost moms milk supply.   

 

I had people approach wanting to see the baby - they had NO idea he was nursing. One poor old guy was trying to look and I kinda smiled and said "well, he's eating right now".  I thought he was gonna vanish into the floor.   There were times though when he slurped so badly there was no questioning what he was doing. LOL 

 
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October 8, 2005, 6:24 am PDT

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I think that people especially those without kids should mind their own business when it comes to rowdy kids in public. Sure they can be disruptive but give the parents some time to settle them down. I think that unless the child is in immediate mortal danger you should let me deal with my own kids the way I want to and if my parenting style is to let them scream it out in public then so be it. Go somewhere they don't allow kids if you want peace and quite. 

 

Thats hard to find, a theatre where kids aren't allowed. Besides, that would make it pretty tough to take our kids to see a movie!  No, I don't want strangers speaking to my kids. What I DO want is parents with enough respect for others to either keep their kids quiet or take them out.  If you've paid as dearly for a movie ticket as we do these days, would you want someone sitting screaming beside you?  A few moments to settle them down is no problem at all, but ignoring it and ruining the time for everyone else is ignorant.  And I say that as a mother of four - I've had my times of leaving a movie i've paid for , simply becuase I'm polite enough not to ruin it for everyone else who also paid for it.   

 

There are plenty of situations, not just theatres, where this is true.  Those of us with children should be able to take our kids place and enjoy the time, not have to sit and listen to children screaming and having fits.  It's not doing them any favour to allow it anyways~ 

 
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October 8, 2005, 6:26 am PDT

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Quote From: boltizar

I have kids and have dealt with screaming meamies.  I feel it is wrong though to stay ina public place, like a restaurant with a screaming child that is having a tantrum to let them scream it out, though.  They should be taken outside to let them scream it out and then brought back in after they have settled down.  that is what I did out of respect of the diners.  You know,  it does depend on the place you are in, of course.  I was in the mall once, and a temper was flaring and I just let her lay there in the middle of the mall and flail and cry it out.  I didn't care if people stared or not.  She was done and we were on our way.

And in the mall, no one needs quiet! If you can stand the people staring, go to it. LOL  I've yet to see a mall that came anywheres near quiet anyways.   

  

Screaming meamies... I like that.  Have those in my house these days!! 

 

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