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October 6, 2005, 10:23 am PDT

Tasteless "comparison"

Quote From: msmelissa

This is that Melissa that everyone is so upset with. For the record I didn't go on the show for pitty, or to complain. I went on the show to create awareness as a petite and short person. Yes, it's difficult to find clothing, and people say tastless rude comments about my height that they would never dream of saying to an overweight person. It was supposed to be a comparasin not an attack. As hurt as you as an overweight person about my partial comments is as hurt as I am when people say short jokes. The broad statement that overwight people can lose weight was never intended for any one with a medical condition. 

I think people that maintain their weight, healthy eating habits and exercise are not rewarded on a regular basis. More power to anyone who loses weight and is healthy. 

There is now beautiful plus size models in high fashion magazines and on the runway. Will the industry change and have shorter models to do the same, maybe. Its my dream and goal, and because of my height of which I have no control over I can't have it. There is a big market for shorter women as is plus size and I want to open the market. I have been blessed with many gifts,health and a great life. Everyone in life has an opinion and their story and this one is mine.  

I quite agree that being extremely short like you is a handicap I can't imagine having to deal with.  Most products are made for people 5'8" or more. Kitchen counters, store shelves, head rests in cars are probably too high for you and air bags are probably life threatening.  I understand studies show that short people do not get promoted and are paid less on average.  Even though I am of normal height, I can empathize with your problem. 

  

However, to make your point you didn't need to engage in putting down other people who also have a handicap (and you did put them down, regardless of your current back pedalling).  Your lack of sensitivity and empathy IMO is your biggest handicap and one that I expect will have a much greater impact on your life. 

 

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October 6, 2005, 10:56 am PDT

Kristi

  

I am very impressed at what a wonderful woman arose from the ashes that your parent's and their cult created out of your life.  You were poised and made you views understood in a clear and well spoken manner.  Many women your age could not have done that. 

  

I am sure that you do have a lot of healing to do as does you father.  Good luck and bless you for exposing the family as you did! 

 

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October 6, 2005, 3:14 pm PDT

With respect

Quote From: estrella

Hearing and reading about such slanderous outright lies is hard for me as a 24-year-old fulltime member of The Family International. I still can’t believe that people would stoop to such low measures and means to demonize and bring others against a group of individuals who have dedicated their lives to helping others and bringing the true Gospel to many who otherwise perhaps wouldn’t have the chance to learn about Jesus’ love.

  

Being a mother of two small children myself, and wanting the best for them as they grow up, I am thankful to be surrounded by loving and caring members of my community who have the same vision and goal in life as I do, and impart that to my kids in their daily interactions with them. If I, living day in and day out in our communal Home, saw that it was indeed a “den of alleged sexual molestation, prostitution and extreme physical abuse”, I would be out of here without second thought. Who in their right mind would allow their children to continue to live in such conditions? Nevertheless, there are thousands of similar parents in The Family, who know the truth, have seen it and lived it for years, and are very thankful for the opportunity to have such a peaceful, pure and charmed atmosphere for their children to spend their formative years in. 

  

Of course, living a life fully dedicated to others includes quite a bit of sacrifices and giving up of selfish desires, so I can understand why there are many who choose an easier, less sacrificial and more self-centered lifestyle. I respect that. That is their choice, such as the Scripture says: “Many are called, but few are chosen.” (Matthew 22:14) Few choose to give their lives to the benefit of others in this way. But this gives those who don’t no right or leeway to criticize or make up stories about those of us who do feel called and have chosen to dedicate our lives to something more worthwhile and long-lasting than selfish living. 

  

My prayer is that these former members can find the peace that they are looking for, not by inciting more anger and violence, but by leaving the past behind and deciding to go on with their lives in the way that they feel is best, and allowing us to do the same. Each of us is an individual and has the right to live our lives in the way that we wish. I’ve found a wonderful place to live mine, and for my children to live theirs as well, and I feel very fulfilled in the cause of spreading Jesus’ message to all who are interested. Why can’t you just leave us alone so that we can get the job done while there is still time?  

  

With regards, 

Estrella Sola 

This is not intended as a slam, I am curious.  You indicacted that the people in the Family have dedicated their lives to helping others.   What exactly do the members of this group do that helps others?
 

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October 7, 2005, 9:31 am PDT

Joan and James

I couldn't believe that Dr. Phil congratulated James for coming on the show.  He was too cowardly to admit what he really does and denied the abuse Joan described.  Phil doesn't usually let a person back pedal like he did with James.  What's up with the special treatment for that weasel??
 

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October 7, 2005, 9:50 am PDT

I love to see breast feeding

I am a mother but my baby days are behind me.  I love seeing women with their babies-doing anything, but especially breast feeding.  That was a very special time in my life and I enjoy being reminded of it. 

  

I can't imagine what kind of person would find seeing that connection between a mother and child offensive.  I do have great pity for Shelly-she must be very twisted and kotted up inside about the human body.  But to suggest that women breast feed in a public rest room? Totally uncomfortable, unhygenic and unpleasant.  If you are horrified by breastfeeding, how would it improve your trip to a mall to stumble upon it in a rest room instead of in the food court? 

 

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October 7, 2005, 1:54 pm PDT

Are you kidding me?

Quote From: bgentle

Sounds like your uncle was trying to be nice to you and  you were just rude to him.  You should be sent to time out for being unrespectful to someone who was just trying to make you feel comfortable.
You think an invitation to leave her grandmother's sick bed (the reason she went out with her 3 month old) into the toilet room was "being nice"??? Maybe her grandmother would prefer her grand daughter and great grandchild to stay so she could visit?  I think if the uncle was uncomfortable, he should have gone for a walk.  His behaviour would have been inexcusable in my family.
 

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October 7, 2005, 2:10 pm PDT

Some information

Quote From: badtrip

I have enough self respect to be able to understand my rights and become informed on them. Nursing is exempt from public decency laws for a good reason, because the Supreme Court says it's unconstitutional to impose restrictions of any kind on breastfeeding. Pressuring women to be discreet leads to many choosing bottle feeding. That is sad.

I think part of the problem is that most of the people who are offended are men or women who have never breast fed.  If they had the information from experience, they would never expect all of this discretion and covering up.  

  

-Breast feeding isn't easy.  You have to support the infant, position the breast and encourage the baby to latch on.  Especially for large breasted women, it can be a fairly difficult balancing act. It can't be done standing in a restroom. 

  

-Babies don't always cooperate. They squirm and pull off a hot blanket. 

  

  

 

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October 10, 2005, 2:10 pm PDT

wo

Quote From: andievilla

My spouse and I were watching your show and I felt that Grant was misunderstood.  Yes, he did have some very distorted ways of dealing with his wife.  But I feel that him asking her to dress seductively was something he would like in moderation.  I don't believe he wants her to dress seductively every day.  As someone who deals with people, and as a man it surprises me that you did get that.  I feel he was reprimanded for  his poor choice of dealing with his wife, but the focus I think he wanted was her organization.  Yes she has kids, so do many women, part of his struggle in his day with the kids was the organization of the kitchen.  If things were already orderly then perhaps both of their days would be easier.  I don't think she was quite the "victim" she made herself out to be.  Some of the arguments made were minimal but valid.  If you could, look at a different perspective with this couple.  No he should not grade her cooking, but yes a cabinet full of papers is unnecessary.  I feel that it was somewhat one sided, and Grant deserves a good lesson, but also a chance to have some of what he's asking for to be heard. 

I don't need breast implants or a french maid costume for my husband to think I'm sexy.  We've been happily married for 21 years, and he has never once suggested plastic surgery (even though at this age I'm considering it).    How could anyone think that you could take that beaten down, depressed woman and dress her in porn star clothes and make her feel sexy? He didn't CARE how she felt, he just cared how she looked.  Any women will be wa-a-a-ay sexier when her husband makes her feel loved and accepted. 

  

 With respect to the household organizsation, I agree that they needed to do it but I don't see what Grant's problem was. Organize it!   I love it when my cleaning lady has reorged all my cupboards! It's heaven for a while. 

 

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October 10, 2005, 2:17 pm PDT

Maybe I'm not forgiving enough

Quote From: happyqueen

It's too bad that you think there's no hope for Grant.  Optomist that  I am, I  hope  he sees the light now that  the world has shared their opinion of him.   As Kelly expresses herself, which she definitely needs to do, Grant may make the changes he needs to make in order for her to remain committed to the marriage.  He must have some good qualities, as Kelly seems to be relatively intelligent and has sense and good judgment.  Hopefully, after seeking Dr. Phil's help, they will both find the respect for themselves and for each other they deserve. 

Haven't you ever heard love is blind?  She problably overlooked his shortcomings and maybe had low self-esteem before she even married him.  I hope you don't really think she should be thinking divorce and second marriage yet!
When I watched that segment, and saw how Grant beat Kelly down in every single area, including wanting her to have plastic surgery... I just could not imagine how a relationship could ever recover from that.  I know that although I could possibly forgive that,  I could never love him or have sex with him ~shudder~.  Some things are just too broken.
 

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October 10, 2005, 2:49 pm PDT

Working doesn't mean not valuing family

Quote From: chdsgrl

Lol,  that's all I can say really about your post.  I have seen more women "dumped" at the age of 45 who put everything in front of their husbands and their kids. 

  

Secondly, when I finished my paralegal studies, I was on my way to law school, but got prenant and made the decision to stay home with my kids.  I guess the difference between us is that you value your career, I value my family. 

  

Also, I didn't think I was putting down anybody else, I was merely expressing my opinion.  I haven't seen the show yet, so I will be interested to see how I was putting other people down. 

  

I don't need validation for what I do from society, my self esteem and my validation comes from me, my husband and my kids. 

  

I never said there was only one true way, I just believe that when you have kids, you need to put them first before your career.  Take it or leave it, but don't try and make me out to be some horrible person. 

  

Thanks 

  

Diana 

sanemommy@yahoo.com 

In the show you said that a woman can't work and parent.  That sounds a bit like putting down working mothers, don't you think?  And in the post I quoted, you said "I guess the difference between us is that you value your career, I value my family. "  That sounds like you are putting me down, don't you think? 

  

Being a successful working mother it isn't easy and it takes some guts, but thanks to the women who came before us and struggled, we CAN do it. Here's an example: 

  

When my daughter was a baby, I refused to travel for my work because I was nursing.  I was supported by the courts in this stance (thanks to women's lib). In one case, a judge ordered that discoveries (your depositions) take place in my little town. Three big city lawyers travelled here and (timing is everything) just as they were settled and ready to go, I had to feed my daughter. My client and I stepped out and they had coffee and waited. When we returned, the offer my client wanted was on the table.  

  

I have never been forced to compromise meeting my family's needs or desires nor has my working husband. We have been happily married for 21 years and our children are wonderful!  

  

I don't need to put down stay at home mothers to feel great about my life. 

 

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