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October 6, 2005, 1:13 pm PDT

unrealistic

Today's show was completely unrealistic. 

  

It is women who constantly try to dominate and control men.  They nag, are full of tips on what you could do to make their lives better, and threaten that you will never see the kids again if they don't get what they want. 

  

The men in today's show do not want to be married.  They will feel nothing but relief when their wives leave. 

 
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October 6, 2005, 5:54 pm PDT

women can't take no for an answer

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Sounds to me like perhaps you were abusive towards someone and she finally stood up to you.   

  

Do women nag?  From a man's perspective, sure we do at times.  A thought to consider, if men who were being nagged would communicate with the women in their lives and not ignore them when they talk, perhaps a woman wouldn't have to repeat herself and be labelled a nag. 

  

I am not sure you grasp the concept of what a healthy relationship is....is it not two people who are able to have open dialogue with each other about how to improve their lives together if one is unhappy?   

  

If the men, any man doesn't want to be married, then he should leave.  Why do they have to drive their wives to leave them? 

The reason that a woman repeats herself isn't because her husband has ignored her.   It is because her husband didn't do what she wanted him to do and so she feels that if she keeps repeating herself again and again and again (nagging) then he will do as he is told.   

  

When you finally give in to your wife (just for a moment of peace and quiet), all of a sudden she is in the mood for sex.  But not until you do what you are told.  What a coincidence. 

 
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October 7, 2005, 6:48 am PDT

today's topic

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When I first read your comment.... I was with the first lady and said....huh?  But I get what you are saying.  Today's show is about men who abuse women.  And it is reality.  And it is true that there are women who abuse men.  And I think that is what you are saying.  I think alot of times we try to look at other people's situations and interpret them thru our own.  My husband's sister is also abusive to her husband and to me.  She controls EVERYTHING.  She bosses him around and makes him do his jobs and her jobs.  The only thing he is allowed to say is:  YES DEAR.  That's it.  Nothing else.  She is outrageous.  She has alot of money and buys herself alot of expensive stuff particularly jewelry.  She bought herself a $15,000 ring recently, but will not as so much spend a dollar on anyone.  She never visits my house.  (She can't afford it.), but she calls my house almost every day.  She does not say hi to me, but requests my husband and talks to him and he says uh huh, uh huh, yeah......  About 3 years ago she influenced my husband to charge up $4000 worth of jewelry FOR HIMSELF and then he screamed at me 50 times to try to find $2 to buy milk.  I did tape record this conversation and he swear out flatly denies it happened.    I think certain people LOOK CUTE, but have these personality disorders on other shows:  ADHD, ODD, OCD, Critical Spouse.... and like today Controlling.   But I do know what you mean.  It could be female to male.

Today's topic was "standing up for yourself".  It was not "men who abuse women".  There is no theoretical reason that a man could not have been on the show.   

  

It was like the episode with prenuptial agreements where the woman who wanted the prenup was told that she was right to want it but the man who wanted the prenup (who didn't appear on the show) in virtually the identical situation as the woman who wanted the prenup was told that he was wrong to want the prenup.  Both of them had children and assets and yet the woman was right to want the prenup and the man was wrong to want the prenup. 

 
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October 26, 2005, 1:55 pm PDT

Great show

It is a shame more men don't watch Dr. Phil.  There are so many good things to learn about marriage: 

  

1. If your wife doesn't want to have oral sex, too bad for you. 

2. It is a man's job to make sure that his wife thinks she has the best husband in a room, even if there are a thousand women in the room. 

3. If you want to have sex with your wife, then you should do all of the housework, because "that is what is sexy".  (to be fair, this was Robin's point, not Dr. Phil's). 

  

If men would learn this before marriage, then men would know what to expect.  What baffles me is what sane man would sign up for this arrangement. 

 
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November 10, 2005, 3:25 pm PST

nothing to be ashamed of.

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I've been married for a little over 9 years now. I'm a Military wife and we received orders to move so we sold the house and packed everything up and moved.  So I quit this great job that I loved and were I felt so appreciated so that I could go with my husband.  Well after a week of being at our new station my husband decides to tell me that he doesn't love me anymore and he doesn't know if he wants to stay married.  So here I am just hurt after being with this man for so long in a new place with no job and no friends.  Well a week later he was sleeping on the couch and I just had this feeling that I needed to check his cell phone.  So I go through it and at first I really didn't see anything until I checked the text messages.  I found messages from a girl we both knew at his last station stating that she loved him and couldn't wait to be with him.  So I woke him up and asked him and he admitted that he was in love with her and turned to her when I wouldn't talk to him about our problems.  So not knowing what else to do I call my mom and a few days later she came up and we drove back to her house with our 4 year old daughter.  So for about a month of listening to him tell me that he just wants a divorce so he can be happy, I start trying to move on.  I go back and ask for my old job back, then about a week later my old supervisor calls and offers it back to me so I accept.  I start looking for apartments and try to plan a future for my daughter and myself.  A few days later my husband calls and tells me that he is sorry and Love's me very much and wants me to come home.  It was the hardest decision that I have ever had to make in my life.  But, because I still loved him so much I gave up that job again and came home.  Well the first week was fine, then the next he started treating me the same.  He was distant again.  He left the next weekend to meet some of his friends in Dallas for the race, which I wasn't happy with but I didn't say anything because I didn't want to argue.  One of the friends that he met with was one of the most negative people that I ever met especially when it came to marriage.  He told my husband after I left the first time "forget about her, there are many more women in the world."  So when my husband came back I felt the same negativity from him.  A few days later he tells me that he doesn't think he could make this work because he still cares about this other girl too much to just let go.  From what he tells me is that they have never done anything more than a simple kiss the day that we left to come here.  So here I am alone again after giving up everything again to be with him.  I haven't even told anyone what I've been going through because I'm feel ashamed that I let him do this to me again.   

There is nothing to be ashamed of.  This problem has affected mankind for years. The important thing is to never put yourself in such a weak position again.
 
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November 14, 2005, 12:48 pm PST

Another Great Show

The Dr. Phil show is like a “scared straight” program for young men thinking of getting married. 

  

 

It is amazing how there is simply no analysis whatsoever of the role that a woman might have played in the breakdown of a relationship.  It is always the man’s fault. 

  

 

Do those women look like the caring, supportive women? Or do they look like women who nagged all day long?  When their husbands leave them (rather than saying “yes dear” as women expect them to), the women are genuinely shocked.  To make themselves feel better they say that it was a “younger women” to blame. 

  

 

That woman on the show a few weeks ago that puts on make-up before her husband comes home from work will stay married.  The woman on the show who decided that oral sex was only for pre-marriage is probably already divorced and wondering why her support cheques never show up. 

  

 

Most women have turned their husbands down for sex so many times, that their husbands don’t even ask for sex anymore.  Then the wives say: “He must be satisfied with our sex life, because otherwise he would ask for sex”. 

  

 

If would be great if there was an episode on wives who were unsatisfied with their sex lives.  Would the advice be that the women should do more housework to get their husbands in the mood for sex (this being the advice that men are given)?  I doubt it.  I think that the advice would be that it is a man’s obligation and duty to make sure that his wife feels special and so he should have sex with her whenever she wants. 

  

 

I don’t know why women complain about being wives.  If any woman wants to support me while I stay home, I would be more than happy to oblige.  I would be a good wife too.  I would make sure that you are constantly notified when you didn’t do your share of the housework.  I would have sex with you whenever I want.  And if I ever get unhappy, I would take the kids and house, and you could send monthly cheques to me for the rest of your life. 

 
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November 14, 2005, 4:14 pm PST

what is your answer?

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ahhhhhhhh Ben just pick a lady that can support herself and won't be depend on you buying everything for her.... marriage is a beautiful thing.  

  

The only thing I would ever complain about is not being able to work and support myself... 

So, Lisa, are you willing to be my husband or not? 

 
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November 14, 2005, 6:51 pm PST

watch the show again

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I am beginning my forties and have been married for 11 years. I did not realize, until I was in my thirties, that men only think, walk, and talk sex. Maybe that was because i was fully enjoying the opposite sex at that time but... I see so many shows on TV now about men complaining that their wives don't give them enough sex. mine included. I can relate to women that say they try to avoid any physical contact with thier husband because even the slightest touch and the husband expects sex. any touching or affection shown by the husband all goes to grabbing boobs or other. At this point I don't equate sex with love. I do love my husband, but this side of him is not attractive to me, in fact its more of a turn off. I only feel like a piece of meat. I am raising three boys, are these great boys just disguised as these primal pigs we see and hear about all over?! Is this what I have to look forward too in my second half of my life? fighting with my husband about the amount of sex we have?
You don't have to worry about spending the second half of your life fighting with your husband about the amount of sex you have.  You should just keep turning him down for sex.  He will know what to do with his sexual needs.  (However, he probably won't be willing to go on the Dr. Phil show to talk about it.)
 
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November 18, 2005, 12:37 pm PST

marriage vows should be changed

Watching the show today, I got a great idea.  I think that the standard marriage vows should be changed to include the line: “If momma ain’t happy, ain’t nobody happy”.  I know that this won’t affect women (because they are under the impression that those words are already there), but it would help men know what they are getting into when they say “I do”. 

  

 

There are some other good lines to add to marriage vows, including the following: 

  

 

1.                  A husband is to be given no credit or respect whatsoever for supporting his wife.  It is simply a woman’s god-given right to be supported by her husband/ ex-husband. 

2.                  Anything that a woman does should be given a great deal of praise and celebration. 

3.                  A man should not express his sexual needs to his wife nor anyone else.  His sexual needs should simply disappear upon marriage.  If needs something to do to occupy his time, he should do more housework. 

  

 

  

 

 
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January 6, 2006, 7:44 pm PST

i have a question for you

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Hey everyone, 

 

I am totally new to this board but I love dr phil.....and have been lurking reading posts and people's responses and advice. First off I would just like to say to everyone that posts and replys on this board way to go!!! your all amazing women (men too ) ok here I go.......I met my fiance a year and a half ago and pretty much fell in love right away.....Sex was good is still good when I want it it just seems like he always has to iniciate it and I am unable to please him in any other ways then kissing....The thought of oral sex makes me *gag* so I have no idea on anything else that would please him.....He tries to tell me but I get all embarrassed.....I came out of an abusive relationship with a much older man, he was very controlling and sex was forced and very much about him........I have no idea how to make a change and find myself sexy enough to start sex or even dress up in lingere...HELP ME please ladies any comments would be so appreciated 

thanks so much 

I'm sorry but I don't have an answer for you.  I do, however, have a question for you.  It is a question I have wanted to get an answer to for a long time. 

  

Why do women who don't want to sleep with their husbands get angry when their husbands sleep with someone else?  What is the big deal?  Just because you don't have a sex drive, why does that mean your husband can't have sex?  There is no risk of sexual disease, because you aren't sleeping with him anyways.  Can you explain this to me? 

 

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