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October 6, 2005, 3:45 pm PDT

it also can be very subtle

Emotional abuse can be easily identified if you're being called "fat" or "ugly" or "stupid".  Controlling behavior can be easily identified if you're allowed only enough gas to get to the grocery store, and physical abuse can be easily identified by the bruises it leaves behind.   

  

There's another form of abuse and that is the abuse we don't "really" see or hear.  Comments like "oh you don't want to do that!" or he'll ask where you want to go for dinner and when you make a suggestion, he says, "oh you don't want Mexican, do you?"  Or he says to you "oh you're going out tonight....I thought we could watch a movie", you're too sick to take care of yourself much less your children but your husband suddenly becomes sicker than you.  He's conveniently got a "lot on his plate" at work when you need to talk about your feelings, whatever they may be.  He says things like "oh you know I didn't mean it that way".  You never hear him praise any of your efforts.  When you threaten to leave, he says "do you know how much money it takes to run a household?".  He makes you ask him for money and says to you when you do "well let's see what you've been spending your money on...that sounds like an awful lot." 

  

These are comments and behavior ladies that can beat you down as much as "you're stupid" can.  This kind of abuse is usually shrouded by a lavish lifestyle, gorgeous home, exotic vacations.  Why would you ever want to leave this?  He'll try to make you so dependent on him that you won't leave.  You'll find yourself making comments like "well I don't have to worry about money", "I can stay home and raise my kids", "could I make it without him?", "WOW look at the wonderful vacations we take."   

  

But when enough is enough, you look back at the pictures from those lavish vacations and remember the smile you see in one of the photos was forced because he was making you miserable, or your ability to stay home and raise your own children is marred by comments like "you really need to find something to do so you don't sit around thinking about how unhappy you are."  You find that that big house you live in is fancy and pretty but you're usually in it alone and when you're not alone, you're lonely.  You find that the financial freedom you enjoy has a price.  If any of this sounds familiar to you, you're probably in as much pain as the ladies who get told they're nothing.  God bless you all. 

 
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October 7, 2005, 4:44 am PDT

Divorce

Quote From: gubinski1

I AM RECENTLY DIVORCED AFTER 6YRS OF MARRIAGE. THIS IS MY SECOND MARRIAGE. WE DIDNT COMMUNICATE AND HE HAS ANGER ISSUES. WE HAVE BEEN TOGETHER FOR 10YRS AND IN THE PAST HE WAS INTO PLAYBOY MAGAZINES. I TOLD HIM I FELT BETRAYED BY IT AND IT HURT ME AS A WOMAN. I LOST MY TRUST IN HIM DUE TO THIS AND HE CANT UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE BEEN APART ABOUT 1MTH AND HE HAS ALREADY GONE TO PURCHASE FHM AND STUFF MAGAZINES. I KNOW THEY ARE NOT PORN BUT I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY. HE HAS BEEN TOLD FOR THE PAST 1YR HE HAS ED AND IMPOTENCE. I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THE MAGAZINES WHEN YOU HAVE NO DESIRE AND HAD A PROBLEM WITH ME.  I HAVE A HARD TIME EVEN THINKING OF EVER GETTING BACK TO HIM BECAUSE OF THIS. SHOLD I EVEN BOTHER OR SHOULD I GO ON WITH MY LIFE.
Please go one with your life.  Dr. Phil says the best predicter of future behavior is past behavior.  Take it from somebody who dealt with the exact same issue as you're dealing with.  The porn may go away but the problems remain.  Here I am 13 years later and just as unhappy as I was then.  Now I face a divorce with two precious little ones.  It breaks my heart that I didn't have the courage to say "hey this isn't what I want" and moved on then.  Hindsight....
 
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October 7, 2005, 4:59 am PDT

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In my 2nd year of being single, I seem to be only moving backward.  I am still attempting to reconcile what should be buried by now.  I have read many self helps in attempts to move forward I understand the process and have begun the work required to reach success.  My ex and I have become sexually active in the last 7 months.(initiated by me) each encounter we express our concerns about the wrong we are doing and say this wont reoccur. but it continues, I have decided that for some reason that I have not been able to express to my ex. this is a obvious sign that we should attempt repairing our family not just for us but also our 2 children(13&5).  I'm confused and have the desire to end this destructive behavior. I try eventhough I dont hold out much hope that he will ever be my husband, for his pride and having to admit he made a mistake are 2 things that are impossible to overcome.  I need some new ideas regarding acceptance and living with what I cant change, for I understand that no matter how obvious the signs are I cant make him see, or act in accordance with what should be.
You have to mourn the death of a marriage just as you mourn the death of a loved one.  You're still in mourning and in a panic you felt after 2 years you weren't feeling "better" you raced to your ex for "comfort".  Sex clouds everything.  You didn't run to him because you loved him or wanted him back, you ran to him out of convenience, familiarity and it was "better" than what you had been offered since your divorce.  You left him for a reason and I can guarantee that reason still stands.  I know this because I did the same thing.  Out of a marriage 1.5 years, experienced panic that I wasn't "over it" yet and ran to what I knew.  We remarried.  We now have two adorable children who are about to suffer through my second divorce with this man.  People don't change.  You left him for a reason and if you reconcile, you'll leave him again for that same reason.  Good luck.
 

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