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October 27, 2007, 7:09 pm PDT

respect yourself

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The fact that a "father" ends of paying for a child who is not his biological offspring should not become incumbant upon the child's welfare.

First, if any couple is separated for ANY length of time, when a child is conceived within the next year, BOTH parents should be in favor of DNA testing so that future problems like this do NOT happen.

IF a child turns out not to belong to the husband, then he and the wife should decide prior to the birth if he's going to stay and actually BE a father, or not... IF he doesn't want to assume the roll of fatherhood, this must be a decision spelled out in legal documents prior to the birth of the child, whether he stays or goes.

Personally I can't imagine ANY man staying in a relationship wherein he knows he's not the father of a child, and making the child suffer for the father's failure to learn, and the mother's failure to have DNA testing done for herself.

Relationships are SUPPOSED to be based on honesty!

Having said that, I can't imagine a father staying in a relationship with a woman who is carrying another man's child without wanting to assume responsibility for that child, unless the real biological father is willing to step forward and assume rsponsibility, which (let's face it) most are too cowardly to do.

IF the biological father is upstanding, and wishes to pay support, and even to play a roll in the child's future, then the husband should be man enough to accept a 3rd person tied to the family, and be grateful enough for the additional income to be civil about the entire matter.

But in THIS instance - to learn after a time he's NOT the father, and then sever ties with the child - it's totally unfair to the child.

A child is so fragile. I can't blame this child for being slow to want this man back in her life. How can she know he won't always throw this in her face when she doesn't obey everythng he wants her to do, for the rest of her life?

She can't... And most men are too immature to NOT throw this in her face, for years to come.

Three wrongs will never make a right, or fill the void that this immature father's previous actions created in the life of that innocent child. She is probably better off without him, and he is probably too immature to not use her biological DNA against her at a later point in time.

If she decides to accept him again, she must do it realizing he is flawed, and may never live up to her expectations.

He, on the other hand, must come to grips with the situation, and love her enough to never throw this in her face, no matter how frustrated he may become with her in the future.

Personally, if she allows him back in her life, I think he's lucky. And it shows that as a child she's a lot more mature than he was, when he took his spite against her mother out on her.

All the more reason for using protection during separations, and to ALWAYS have DNA testing when a pregnancy occurs shortly thereafter. Had this been the way these two adults handled this matter, the child would never have had to be subjected to this dysfunctional family problem.
you missed one thing....cheating should not be a option when you marry,  so if you respect yourself you will not cheat!  For those who do mess up doing the right thing and telling your spouse when it happens might be a hard thing to do but it is the right thing to do...children wont have to deal with these lies later in life if the grownups act like grownups
 
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October 27, 2007, 7:18 pm PDT

thank god I'm not alone

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As a women it amazes me how women treat the fathers of their children.  When they lie to the men as to who is the father they are also lying to their children.  As a stepmother to an 18 year old son who's mother tried to deny my husband his rights to his son for 18 years including stating he wasn't his in hopes he would go away I have seen the pain these women cause for both the children and their fathers.  In our case he is much closer to his father than his mother......these women should not be able to force the wrong father to support the child.   The child support system allows there women to play games with these men and in some cases put great financial stress on their lives because of their immoral acts

It is nice to see women who have a conscience...I know its hard some time but the children will turn out better if the parents try the best they can to get along. I speak from experience I have a 7 year old and dont get support but I never get in the way of my sons relationship with his father and some day my son will be a fine young man knowing we tried our best for his sake.
 
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October 29, 2007, 5:41 pm PDT

get real

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I am so surprised that all of the messages that I've read so far are about the adults w/ Selina on the side....didn't anyone listen?  Or don't you understand yet that life is not fair, that sometimes you just have to deal with an injustice to yourself and put someone else first.  It's a lesson that kids learn early on, or should, that sometimes things just aren't fair.  Ok the mother lied, it's done.  NOTHING can change that it sucks.  It seems to me that Enrique and his new and obviously immature wife, and that crazy other guy with his mouth running off, need to get past the fact that they aren't going to get their money back, and they can't punish the mother now.  There won't be justice for them, at least in that regard.  Now on top of Selina's mother messing things up early on they've made the whole problem worse and look worst than her now.  They perpetrated a crime against the child, much worse than the lie to the adult.  So they need to move on.  Better to have stood up and done the right thing by the child, "turn the other cheek" for the sake of the childs heart.   Damage has been done to this child that is forever.  As for that guy who is running around freaking out that he had to pay support for a kid who's not his...well, I think whether he's right or wrong, each case is individual and can't be generalized.  He's bitter, angry, I categorize him with Tom Lykas, (the worlds biggest pig), he's rude, and if he really had justice and dignity in mind he'd at least let other people have their say.  A prince never has to say they're a prince....let alone get in my face and demand I acknowledge it. ;)
you didnt listen!
 

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