Messages By: rissa140

Well, its IS possible. And no, music/cds, movies & favorite/least favorite school subjects are NOT the only things they could discuss or have in common. As I stated in another post, some 15, 16 & 17 year olds know more & are more mature/capable then some people in their 30s & 40s!... And could be into other things such as Fine/Liberal Arts, World issues and/or politics. I'm NOT saying ALL teens are interested in those issues, but SOME ARE. THAT'S why I said it depends on the individual people involved.

I did answer realisticly....

I said SOME 15 year olds (as well as other teens), NOT ALL BUT SOME, know more & are more mature/capable of things than SOME people in their mid/late 20s, or 30s or 40s. It is NOT IMpossible for a teen to be interested in more than high school stuff. Also, SOME teens have more life experiences than others, which is another thing they could have in common & discuss.

But, I honestly dont care if you ever believe me on this, I'm just stating my opinion & beliefs from what I've witnessed/experienced.

I'm aware that kids & teens WILL get into some sticky situations that they shouldnt. But if you dont make them take some responsibility for THEIR part in it & in return keep treating them as an "innocent victim", then how are they supposed to learn anything?

IF my future child(ren), as a TEEN, WILLINGLY got into a situation like this (with an older person), I would MOST CERTAINLY make them take some responsibility for it. In a situation like that, I would NOT consider my teen son or daughter a victim... and wouldnt want anyone else to either, IF it was CONSENSUAL. Now, if they were ACTUALLY RAPED, AS IN FORCED INTO IT/AGAINST THEIR WILL, then YES, I would be very supportive of them & would want the rapist behind bars.

But I stand by my opinion/beliefs, YES, the older person should know better, but so should the teen. And parents need to stop being in denial about what teens are capable of knowing/doing & start making them take some responsiblity.

And I hope that people will one day wake up & realize that teens ARE capable of knowing what is right & wrong & in consensual cases like these, they are NOT little innocent victims & need to take some responsibility. They need to take some responsibility in anything they do wrong. Clearly, I disagree with everything you say, given it was consensual. I'm standing by beliefs/opinions, always & forever.

YES, they ARE actually teaching me how to take responsibility for MY actions, thank you!

OK, and the 9 month old baby vomiting up its formula because the mother fed it too much & the issue(s) at hand are two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS & can NOT even be compared!! A 9 month old baby is just that, a BABY & OBVIOUSLY has NO conscious/inner voice at that point... HOWEVER, a TEEN DOES, or at least they SHOULD! When I said, "no matter what age we are", I meant at an old enough age where you should know, or should be learning to know, the difference between right & wrong.

I'M NOT SHELTERING ANYONE. But it seems like other people ARE sheltering them when they're not making them take responsibility for something THEY WILLINGLY & CONSENSUALLY TOOK PART IN. Put the blame where it belongs, on BOTH people!

And going back to a statement I saw that you made regarding me in another post, I am in NO WAY seeking attention/affection from anyone in my family who "isn't giving it to me", I get all the attention, love & affection I need from my family. I have a very big, close, loving & supportive family, thanks!

But good, we both think that each other's theories are whacked.

 I dont expect a 15 year old to have AS MUCH wisdom as anyone 5-50 years more older, but I do expect them to have SOME KIND of wisdom by that age. They WOULD have a bit more knowledge/wisdom & maturity to really grasp the consequences of their actions IF THEIR PARENTS CONTINUALLY TAUGHT THEM WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES WOULD/COULD BE & REINFORCED THEM . People wonder why some kids & teens repeatedly act out (sometimes)... its because the majority of the time their parents aren't around enough and/or dont want to believe they're capable of something like that (whatever it was) & the parents then, want to "protect" their not-so innocent child/teen & not make them be held accountable. Its a parent's job to make sure their children, little & teens, know the difference between right & wrong, and when they choose wrong, to punish them & hold them responsible accordingly... or else they'll NEVER learn. As a teen, when you WILLINGLY & CONSENSUALLY take part in sexual behavior (or anything for that matter) you are NOT a victim who's being taken advantage of. But CLEARLY, we will never agree.

And I agree that adults should think from their chin up, NOT the waist down & should have the guts to say no. HOWEVER, the point is that this guy (and SOME others) isn't just claiming she consented, this TEEN (and MANY more out there), who should have ALSO KNOWN BETTER, DID CONSENT.

I'm not arguing that the sex shouldn't have happened, beause it should not have.... What I'm saying is, this teen girl KNEW what she was doing & she CONSENTED, which does NOT make her a victim who was taken advantage of. I'm trying to be respectful here but, People are kidding themselves if they believe that a 15, 16 or 17 year old isn't capable of consenting and/or having some knowledge of right & wrong (given that their parents are teaching them right from wrong) .