Quote From: fluffyfatI didn't say it offended me, I said it worried me. It worries me because it seems that many women these days are unable to see themselves as pretty or desirable in their natural state.
Please don't take this "Why does it concern you?" tone with me. The woman went on national TV to discuss this issue and this is a board where we discuss the issues brought up on the show.
It's interesting that you are all for plastic surgery and you are a man? How often have you gone under the knife and risked death (as happens in all major surgery), just to look good for your wife? If I was to consider something like a tummy tuck or breast implants, my husband would talk as long as it took, to convince me that I was beautiful just as I was and didn't need to risk my life so that I looked better.
You say her self-image is important to her. Of course it is, but why does her self image depend on $8000 worth of plastic surgery? That's what worries me. Why is it that women can no longer take pride in themselves unless their bodies and faces meet some standard of perfection that is not even seen in nature? Part of the problem is men like you who encourage women to do this sort of thing to themselves, implying that they aren't good enough as they are.
It is a personal decision and yet, the increase in cosmetic surgery effects all women. Just as we all have to wear make-up to compete, we now all have to have tummy tucks, implants and face lifts -- and that has brought things to a whole differrent level in terms of risks and expense.
The more women who give in to this societal pressure, the more others will feel they have to go along with it. I think it's as primitive and exploitive of women as the Chinese women of the 18th century getting their feet bound because the men thought small feet were sexy.
Not saying "offended" doesn't mean you are not showing that you are
You said: "Where will it end? Are we approaching the day when all women must be perfect from head to toe, or in the case of breast implants, better than perfect? Can't we age? Can't we be allowed to show the effects of child birth? "
we, we, we...You are obviously offended. You think this woman deciding on plastic surgery is about you. Get over yourself! If you think plastic surgery is a bad idea, it shouldn't matter if it is so prevalent they go on missionaries to third world countries to give out free plastic surgery!
I have never gone under the knife. Again, this woman's decision is not about me or what I would do. I'm not promoting plastic surgery. I am promoting a woman making her own choices. She has agreed to do the work in this marriage that doesn't come with a paycheck, so it's unfair for the husband to dismiss her wholesale.
I don't think her self image DEPENDS on plastic surgery. She had a body she was proud of. It went through some trauma because of childbirth and she wanted to be proud of her body again. She's worked hard to get herself back in shape, this is the final piece.
I don't remember meeting you, but you seem to know an awful lot about me. Maybe in Minnesota there is an epidemic of men forcing plastic surgery on all the women. In my corner of the world we don't do that. I think the problem is women like you. You saw this story as a woman who was being unreasonable. No, you didn't use the word "unreasonable" but you made the arguement, "The boat idea was laughed at, but at least that's something the whole family could enjoy. Wearing a bikini and having other men admire her was something only the mother could enjoy." It sounds a lot like, "How dare she consider doing something only for herself when her husband thinks a boat would be the best thing for this family."
What you missed was, this is a woman who feels strongly about this issue. She has explored and employed alternatives to plastic surgery to get the results she desires. They haven't worked. She has done her research and has decided she wants to have this procedure done. What I saw was her husband making the decision that she didn't need it, and he expected that to be the end of the conversation. She disagreed. My argument is she is right.
I can understand your "worry" if you easily fall prey to lemming mentality. I don't think Casey falls into that category.
