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October 7, 2005, 6:17 pm PDT

Women's rights

I was just in the hallway at San Jac community college(Houston, TX) on Wednesday and this girl was going on about how she can't stand history and government courses.  It was obvious that she believed they were not essential to her education. 

I loathe to see women bashing women on topics that would have been handled by men less than a century ago, that's less than 100 years ago folks.  Young women (13+) today frown at feminism but we can't stand to let our rights go by the wayside.  Please don't forget how far women have come...and don't take freedom to do as you wish for granted. 

I wanted to breastfeed but after one month of trying it was evident that my daughter wasn't getting enough milk.  I don't see why people can't look the other way when they see a breastfeeding mom.  Sure, moms can be discreet, and for then own safety should cover themselves.  For anyone that finds they can't eat because the woman at the next table just started feeding her child:  I suggest you ask the waiter to move you. 

For those breastfeeding:  I suggest as much discretion as you can muster.  With all of the "cover ups" available today, I don't see why you would "flaunt" what's flabby after childbirth. 

BTW, for those that mention that men should have a say:  This should stay between women, as should the abortion topic. 

 
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October 7, 2005, 6:39 pm PDT

Teaching Sex and Condoms

years ago parents decided it was a good idea to teach sex education in school.  It is a good idea, and it's necessary. Condoms can be issued but the kids should be warned that they don't last (look at Kenickie in GREASE).  Not all parents talk to their children about sex.  Maybe because of embarrassment, they don't care, or maybe they just don't think they have to worry.  Whatever the reason adults tend to forget what its like to be a teen, and can't relate. 

I finally had the talk about sex with my stepdaughter just this week.  She's 13 and very social, but her mother still hadn't talked to her at all on the subject.  I find it irresponsible because her own mother got pregnant with her when she was only 15. 

One thing the schools don't cover is the fact that the feelings you have leading up to sex are wonderful and exciting.  The problem then is girls (especially), who have been taught that bad things happen to girls that have sex early, or without protection, think sex is bad.   BUT why do things feel so good when they're kissed? touched? talked to in that sexy way?   MUST BE TRUE LOVE.      

Please educate your children in addition to what our schools are doing.  Condoms or no condoms, some will have sex anyway.  I know that my husband and his ex were both in some type of sex ed class before getting pregnant at 15, and I don't know about the ex, but my husband is an intelligent, loving person.  How would you describe your teenager? 

 
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October 7, 2005, 6:49 pm PDT

Little Terrors

When it comes to responding to a child, it doesn't matter much to me what the parent thinks. 

Want to know why? 

1. When I worked in retail, parents often asked me to tell their children to stop doing things because they believed they would listen to me. 

2. I've always talked to other people's children as if they were my peers, and my friends kids appreciate that and respect because of it. 

If a child kicks me or disturbs me directly I will let him/her know I don't appreciate it.  I don't look to their parents unless the child is out of control, refusing to let me be.   

IF a parent in front of me in line is busy (talking with cashier or something) I will tell their child to calm down so that their mother can hear, or accomplish something.   

It is totally appropiate to talk with a child if they are engaging you in some way.   IT IS NOT appropriate to offer unsolicited advice (unless mom is pulling hair out), or to go out of your way to approach and reprimand someone else's child (it's mom and dad's responsibility. 

 
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October 7, 2005, 7:07 pm PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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I have comments on all three debates that were given today.

  

 

 

  

 

Breast Feeding in Public

  

 

What has happened to modesty in today's world? Women would not sit around and take out their breast and simply flaunt it for the heck of it, if so this would be considered indecent exposure. Now we say we are breast feeding our children and this should be acceptable? I think not! In this day and age with breast pumps there should be no reason that people cannot be more discreet. There are women I know that pump ahead of time to provide their children they need. Also another point that was not discussed is the fact that men no matter what the circumstance are going to sit there and look at the naked breast and possibly get turned on by that. I mean there are porn sites for everything anymore even nude pregnant women! Are we naive enough to think that this is ok to do in public simply because it the natural thing to do. Come on let's use a little common sense.

  

 

 

  

 

Condoms In School

  

 

I think that we should NOT hand out condoms in school at all. The school job's is to educate and not to teach morals. I mean isn't this why they mistakenly took prayer out of school? and God out of the Pledge of Allegiance? I mean we take God out and hand out condoms? Do we not see the contradiction here? I know that the "stats" support handing them out. However, Planned Parenthood is one the most liberal organizations out there that hand out condoms and birth control because teenagers simply want to go have sex. On the show Dr. Phil is always saying that teenagers do not think things through all the time, so then we give them the great responsibility of having sex? I mean there is much more to sex then simply the STD's and pregnancy. There are emotional issues, especially with young girls that handing them a condom will not solve. Where are the morals in this? So we teach kids about sex and that they should abstain....but here is the lighter in case you want to start that fire? I know that for me because I had good parents that cared and instilled fear in me, that I did not have sex because I did know the consequences of those actions. Another point is that by giving the school more control over our morals as in this situation, we are giving the government more control in our lives.

  

 

 

  

 

Disciplining Children

  

 

When we were younger and went out to eat with our parents we would sit still and behave. It was a very rare day when I or my sister had to be removed from anywhere in public and disciplined. We knew what would happen if we did not behave. Parents need more control of their children. I would never go to someone's child and say something; however I would to that parent. I am in total agreement with the young lady on the show that is the comedian. Everything she said, I applauded. Kids need control!

  

 

  

 

In response to your statement about modesty.    This shouldn't be the issue when we are talking about feeding children. Have you ever tried to use a breast pump?  I don't mean the nice expensive ones like hospital grade, but the kind most women can afford.  Hell, if my let down ever happened I would get about 4 ounces in over an hour.   That's ridiculous.  I might as well have the baby on the breast every other hour.   BTW, we are one of the few countries that would rather see a woman using a bottle than showing a little skin. (of course, some of you will be quick to say that makes America better) sheesh. 

Sex issue.  The point is that teens DO often have sex.  Condoms may be useful if they're going to do it anyway.  BTW, it is a BAD parenting practice to instill fear in your children.   

FUNNY NOTE:  My parents were both very very well disciplined...guess what?  They decided not to be too hard on me.  We were asked to leave a restaurant before and never come back.   I know they were embarrassed, but do you see how their own upbringing backfired? 

 
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October 8, 2005, 6:22 am PDT

Another sign women like being under a man's thumb

I saw the clip of this show and I'm sure its going to upset me to watch. 

Women, just because men treated us on the whole like slaves for centuries does not mean it is what God intended. 

IF you honestly believe everything you read, for instance that woman was actually made from Adam's rib, then maybe you don't have a problem being told what to do by your man.  It doesn't make sense to me though, I know I wasn't made from man and that empowers me to realize I'm here to make up my own mind about how to let people (men) treat me.    

BTW, my husband is a loving caring individual, and an excellent father.  He does as much of the house cleaning and he listens to me.    

 
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October 8, 2005, 9:15 pm PDT

Bill - you're pathetic

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Looks like you have some issues within inside your self,  

  

Do you go to your husbands work and help him during the day? I think not. If it wasn't for your husband you would be taking care of your kids and working because I'm sure your the type of woman that would keep your kids from you husband for the sole purpose of receiving child support. So maybe you should get off your butt and stop watching TV and surfing the NET all day.  

  

If you are such a caring and loving person you would be able to look past all of this and accept your position in life. Remember your the Mommy, NOT the Daddy. So put on a nice dress and cook some muffins for your kids and you husband, and have them ready for him the next time he walks in the door. 

  

Bill Jinkens 

I have helped my husband at work B4 when it was allowed. 

I'm in school you dolt and taking care of my child when my husband is working.  Face it, life with a partner is about give and take. You can't just work outside of the home and expect to do zip for your spouse (goes either way) 

What does child support have to do with keeping kids from their father?  Child support was instituted so that mothers or fathers could run the household financially as if the parental unit were still in tact.    

Sounds like you have a problem with women period.  I suggest you wear the dress and get some nice pumps to wear the dress out on the town in. 

 
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October 8, 2005, 9:31 pm PDT

The Bible was written by men

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   I am in no way trying to start an arguement with anyone.  I was just a little bothered by one of your remarks.  "IF you honestly believe everything you read, for instance that woman was actually made from Adam's rib, then maybe you don't have a problem being told what to do by your man."  I do firmly believe this because it is in the BIBLE.  And I wholeheartedly believe the bible.  With that said, I am in no way a doormat to my husband.  I choose to do all the laundry and cook all the meals but that is because I stay home with our kids.  It's the least I can do for him.  But when he gets home if I haven't felt well or had a rough day and dinner isn't made there is definitely no fights.  He is more than willing to come home and make dinner or at least help with making dinner.  He understands that just because I am a "Stay at home MOM" doesn't mean I sit around all day and watch soaps or the DR Phil show.  I actually record the show and watch it later in the night while I am in bed.  And just another note...Woman actually means.."from man" so yes dear you were made from man.  God created Eve WITH Adam's rib.  If you weren't made from man what were you made from??  Just a question.  I am happy that you are married to a caring individual and that he is willing to help.  But just because I believe what you don't doesn't mean that My husband isn't willing to help.  He is more than willing.  We share all the household cleaning equally.  Yes during the week I keep the house neat and clutter free, but come the weekend we are BOTH cleaning the house.  I wish you the best of luck in your marriage and GOD BLESS 

The Bible was written by human beings.  Some said they were told what to write by God.  Other people have said they were told things directly by God, yet they are considered crazy. 

I questioned what my parents raised  me as (Catholic) because the church teaches that God hates some people and loves others.  We are to tolerate those people even though they are going to hell, only many people do live with hatred in their hearts.   God doesn't need us to go to church and tell our "sins" to another human being, he wants us to look up toward him and tell him ourselves.  I was made the same way man was. God had the design for women from the female god that sits beside him.  You belittle women and put yourself in a lower place just saying that aloud. The God most of us were taught about is vengeful, but that is not true. There is a hell, but it is on Earth.  I'll see you on the other side. 

BTW, I was using the bible reference as an example of how we learn to believe things are true.  I wasn't implying that all god fearing folk are still backwards in the household. 

 
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October 8, 2005, 10:28 pm PDT

Traditional Views

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Maybe Bill J needs to soften up the edges a little bit, but I have to say this, and I'm not a dolt.  What are your kids doing while you're in school?  I think once you make the decision to have kids, you need (or a parent needs) to be home with them and continue your schooling when they're grown.  As far as child support is concerned, I think what he was trying to say is that you should do whatever you can to keep your marriages intact as to not have the need for child support.  Yes, I have traditional views, and so far it's worked out pretty great! 

 

 

1.  You can't put your life on hold just because you have kids.  Life continues, and you must continue to grow as well.  If you don't have a good education you will end up in what Mr. Bush considers to be a very American fashion - working three jobs - yes, he did tell a woman she was very American for working three jobs all her life.  What a world we live in. 

  

I have been married for 8 years come this December and lived with my husband 12 years come this February.  There are no problems with my marriage that could lead to divorce.  

  

2.  My kids are 13 and 6 months, what do you think they are doing when I'm in school?   

 
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October 8, 2005, 10:40 pm PDT

Literal meanings

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You know what God also says....and this is a doosey.  God tells women to lay down for their husbands, but God tells men to lay down their lives for God and his Church.  My husband has to lay down his life for me, his God and his Church and all I have to do is lay down for my husband?  Does that seem fair?  Christian men carry a far heavier burden than we do or ever will.

All I have to say is the Bible has a lot to say. 

  

Don't take things too literally...it is not meant for you to take everything literally 

 
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October 8, 2005, 10:58 pm PDT

I do the same thing

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  I think that the mind set that we are seeing here from men is the last effects of the womens rights act.  I am 27 and I know that my husbands mother waited on her husbands and sons like a maid.  She only had 4 boys.  Even to this day when we go visit my husbands family, his mom makes all the meals, does all the cleaning and when everyone is done eating - they plop down in front of the TV while she does all the dishes and all with her make-up done and her high heels on.   The husbands wives however are all expected to help with the cleaning and the cooking.  I refuse to bend on this one, so I get all the dirty looks and whispering because I clean my own plate, then go plop down in front of the TV with the guys.  This generation of men are grown up and expecting the same things.  Hopefully, we can raise our children to all be on a level playing field and finally break free from the past.  I am willing to bet that any man that has these expectations had a mother like this one. 

  

Ya, a stay at home wife has responsiblities to raise her kids in a clean house.  I don't mean immaculate for the husband - I mean clean of bacteria, any choking hazard, mold and so on.  A CLEAN HOUSE.  However, a wife should not ever have to run her house according to her husbands expectations.  My husband had to really let go of the roles he learning growing up.  He now realizes that his way isn't always the only way, and to fight with me and put me down over my hair not being done and the sink not shining is knit picking and hurtful to me.   

Maybe it's how I was raised, but I never have helped clean dishes at anyone's home. 

I was lucky on the role thing.  My husband came from a family of women, Mother, three sisters and one brother, all older.  He had a father figure untll he was 15 but he considers all the time spent with him as bad.    All of this molded my husband into the wonderful father and partner I now share my life with. 

I grew up in an unusual household myself.  My dad is an avid reader, a history teacher, opera lover, and conversationalist.  The first time I saw people watching sports on the holidays I was shocked.  We NEVER watched any sports at home, I'm lucky my husband only bothers to catch occasional home team games.   

 

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