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October 7, 2005, 7:38 pm PDT

Breastfeeding in Public.

What is wrong with that woman that gets upset with the other lady breastfeeding her baby.  What is wrong with today's society?  I am 70 years of ago, never had children, but find the bond between mother and child a wonder from God.  A mother breastfeeding her child is a most beautiful sight.  You have to have some real issue in your life to feel otherwise.  God gave women breasts so that they could feed their children, not just as a sexual symbol alone!  That woman needs to see a psychiatrist. 

 

What I feel is disgusting is women who go around exposing their breasts with low-cut dresses for all the world to see.  It is not only disgusting, but embarrassing to some of us.   

 

I wonder if this woman finds it offensive to have someone blow smoke in her face.  That is a disgusting and smelly habit that makes some of us rather ill, but some smokers don't care.  Now there is a health threat.  But breastfeeding in public?  Excuse me, Lady, go get a life. 

 

 

 
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October 7, 2005, 11:52 pm PDT

Breastfeeding in Public

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So you are saying that a fully exposed breast in public for the world to see is "a most beautiful sight" but a lady with a low cut dress is, "disgusting"? okay you obviously need to "get a life" you admitted that breasts are a "sexual symbol" but are "embarrassed" when a lady shows some cleavage.  Its such a contradiction to itself.  Today's society have changed if you noticed from 70 years ago.  If you had a life you wouldv'e noticed that.  Im hard on you because you were hard on the woman you are talking about.  I don't know about you but I would not like my children to see a strangers breast when they are playing on a jungle gym at a public park.

Wow, can you turn words around to suit your thoughts!  If you're going to quote me, then quote me right.  I did not say that a fully exposed breast in public is "a most beautiful sight".  What's wrong with you?  I said that a "mother breastfeeding her child is a most beautiful sight".  In all my years I have never thought of zeroing in on the mother's breast, but rather at the infant whose little head covers most of the breast.   

I did NOT "admit" that breasts are a sexual symbol.  I stated that they were not to be looked upon only as a sexual symbol. 

If you are teaching your child that a mother breastfeeding her child in public is wrong, no wonder we have such mixed-up kids.  I would be more concerned with their ability to learn computer language at a very early age and be subjected to creeps and porn. 

Yes, society has changed in the last 70 years, but in many cases NOT for the better.  There are so many other causes in this world that need to be discussed, and the things that are destroying our children's minds is one of these causes.  I definitely don't think breastfeeding in public will destroy any child's mind.   

My 70 years have also taught me that what other people think is not as important as what one thinks about oneself, and I have had a great life, thank you. 

 
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October 7, 2005, 11:56 pm PDT

Breastfeeding in Public

Quote From: totzmom

I think that you have wonderful insight...especially someone of another generation and someone who hasn't had kids....you would have made a beautiful mother and I bet you have "mothered" many.  I like that you are frank in your speech and if you ever want to "adopt" a middle aged mother and her ten year old daughter all you have to do is email me....lyndajolene@yahoo.com.  We are all yours!!!

You are so right.  Although I never had any children of my own, I am the baby of nine.  Consequently, I have dozens of nieces and nephews, grandnieces and grandnephews, and step grandchildren.  And definitely two more will only add more joy, so join the big family! 

 
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October 8, 2005, 12:05 am PDT

Breastfeeding in Public

Quote From: shellyee

Maybe you should just ask me? No, it is not ok to blow smoke in face. And, as young as I am, i don't think woman need to have their breasts hanging out of their dresses and shirts, or their rears coming out of their pants. Why? Because a woman should be more than just her body parts. But, just as you feel breastfeeding is Godly and beautiful, I am entitled to an opinion too, without being told I am crazy or I have issues for not agreeing with you. You are entitled to think your way and live as you choose. I am allowed to do the same, only I have not judged you or called you any names. All I said was people should show more respect for other peoples rights and opinions. You might try it.

So show more respect for my rights and opinions.  That's exactly what I expressed.  You definitely sat in judgment of all mothers who breastfeed in public.  Even though it's just your opinion, you chose to express it to an audience of millions of people.  When you do that, you expose yourself to feedback you might not like.   And to quote you, "people should show more respect for other peoples rights and opinions".   I rest my case. 

 

 
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October 8, 2005, 12:24 am PDT

Right on!

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Okay, get a clue here!   First of all, do you like eating in a place where you can smell other people's gas and hear them urinate and defecate? I doubt it. It's not my breast I'm worried about being sanitary; it's the facility itself. My breast doesn't just jump out on its own. Ever notice how many people don't wash their hands? They are touching things I would have to touch. Not to mention it is the rare restroom that has a comfortable, clean, and separate place for nursing moms. If I come across the rare one of those where there is a SEPARATE lounge, I use it IF that's where I am when my baby is hungry.   You know what? I have never taken off a stitch of clothing in order to breastfeed in public, so I don't know where you get the idea that nursing moms are stripping in order to feed. What are you looking at? A "Girls Gone Wild" video??? That isn't how it works. I'm not an exhibitionist. I could probably be in a restaurant booth next you and you wouldn't even know my baby is nursing and not napping in my arms. If you feel the need to look and stare, that's your problem.   It is a sexual issue because this country is obsessed with the female body as a representation of sexuality. I don't know what you think you are seeing. At worst a brief flash of skin when the baby is latching on, but even that is unlikely. If you see a baby that you know is nursing and yet you can't see any part of breast, let alone the nipple...and that makes you uncomfortable...it's YOU.   I have my boundaries and respect my rights and those of my child's first. I'm a mom and it's my job to give my kids the best start possible. Besides, every time a mom nurses her baby in public, that's one more mother acting in a normal loving manner - just as much so as a bottle-feeding mom. There is no shame in using breasts for their intended purpose.   I'm tired of the attitude that is being perpetuated by statements like yours. It shows ignorance and THAT is a true lack of respect.

You have spoken for a lot of other women out there.  I hope you know that you are not alone in your thinking.  Motherhood is a precious gift, and should be considered a blessing.   Breastfeeding is the most natural thing, and God bless you for loving your child as much as you seem to.   

 
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October 8, 2005, 1:22 pm PDT

Scared to Leave

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My abuse is not physical-it is emotional and verbal.  My husband is an addict.  We've been through it all.  I found the courage to leave once then only to return a year later because I thought he had learned his lesson.  I have 2 beautiful boys and I want them to have a happy childhood.  I just don't know what to do.  What if I leave and he straightens up-I could never return again.  I believe in the institution of marriage, but I know this is not how it is suppose to be.  He has ruined me financially.  i have a college degree and I struggle to buy groceries.  How do I find the strength to leave again-Is there something wrong with me?  He says I try to control him, but, in reality, he has complete control of me because of his addiction.  I believe I am sicker than he is.   I know he wishes he did not have this monkey on his back and he always says he is going to do better, but I've given him hundreds of chances.   I know that I am not the kind of woman I need to be or could be if I had the right partner who did not cause me pain.  I'm almost numb to the emotional pain now and that scares me.  Any advice would be appreciated.  Am I on a dead end road?

Verbal and emotional abuse can be worse than physical.  The scars are deeper, and take a lot longer to heal, if ever.  I was in my mid 20s, he was 16 years older.  I did not realize I was being totally controlled until life became unbearable.  I left at age 29, and have never looked back.  It's never too late to leave and start over.  Women are self-sufficient, and if they don't like being alone, there are other nice guys out there.  From experience, I advise you to leave NOW!  Not tomorrow or later .... NOW!  You may want to come back, but fight this urge.  You will get over this abusive person.  You are worth more.  You will learn to love and respect yourself, and will be so thankful later on. 

 

There are shelters and organizations out there that can help you.  You are not alone if you live.  you stay, and you are alone.  I know. 

 
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October 8, 2005, 8:30 pm PDT

Breastfeeding in public

Quote From: shellyee

Why are you commenting on my feedback?  

  

Yes, I do think other people should show more respect for other people. Is that a bad thing? How is compromise wrong? What was your point exactly?? 

I don't think we're on the same page, same chapter, or even the same book.   You don't seem to grasp the meaning of anything. 

 

Compromise to you is for the lady to remove herself from your presence and breastfeed her baby in the restroom, and you sit there just like you were before she started breastfeeding.  Where, pray tell me, is the compromise on your part? 

 

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October 19, 2005, 8:22 pm PDT

Religion and Homosexuality

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why does religion have to play such a large part in this topic. If there is a God do you really think he is so concerned about 2 women sleeping together?  Perhaps if people were less worried about other peoples' private lives and more concerned about ways to make this world a better place, clean air, food for everyone, jobs, the homeless etc...  people would be happier.  

If you aren't gay then you don't know if it is a choice or not! I believe people are born either straight or gay, and whatever you are is cool with me!  

We were left with a book of instructions that has 66 books.  This book covers every aspect of life, no matter how insignificant we think it is.  So, what does it say about homosexuality? 

Romans1, starting with 18th verse:   (18) For God's wrath is being revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who are suppressing the truth in an unrighteous way ...(24) Therefore God, in keeping with the devices of their hearts, gave them up to uncleanness, that their bodies might be dishonored among them (25) even those who exchanged the truth of God for the lie and venerated and rendered sacred service to the creation rather than the One who created ... (20) That is why God gave them up to disgraceful sexual appetites, for both their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature; (27) likewise even the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene and receiving to themselves the full recompense which was due for their error...(32) Although these know full well the righteous decree of God, that those practicing such things are deserving of death, they not only keep on doing them but also consent with those practicing them.  I implore you to read the entire chapter so that no one will say that this was taken out of context.  Please note that those that consent with these practices are as guilty as those actually carrying out these acts. 

 

This is not anything new.  These same practices existed in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, and both cities were destroyed by God.  Read the account of Lot and his family.  Where do you think the word "Sodomy" comes from?  The angels of God who were sent to warn Lot were attacked by the homosexuals of the city.  Lot offered his virgin daughters, but they refused them stating they wanted to have sex with the angels.  Even after being blinded by the Angels they groped for the doors of Lot's home trying to get to the Angels. 

 

As a society we have become very lax on caring what God wants from his creation.  We are little by little indoctrinated or brainwashed into accepting practices that are very much in violation of God's word.   

 

We are all free to choose what we want to believe or accept.  I, for one, accept God's Word and accept it as my guideline.  Judgment is not up to me.  What I have quoted is directly from God's Word.  Each one of us must answer for our actions. 

 
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October 19, 2005, 8:29 pm PDT

Homosexuality and God

Quote From: exmormon

What these "Christians" are completely ignoring is the fact that homosexuality was such a non-issue for Christ  that he never said a single word about it.  If you're going to claim that you're a "Christian" then try acting like Christ first.  Saying you're a "Christian" doesn't make you one anymore than saying you're a car makes you a car.   

My favorite quote on the subject of these self-righteous, immature people comes from Ghandi:   

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.  Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." 

The Apostle Paul was a follower of Christ.  Read the account of what he has to say about homosexuality in Romans 1:28 to the end of the chapter.   

 

Ghandi said what he said probably because "Christians" are "Christians" in name only.  Being a follower is not only "believing" in God and Christ, but actually putting into practice everything left written in HIS word.  Think about that. 

 
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October 19, 2005, 8:36 pm PDT

SO YOU'RE GAY!

Quote From: sueellis35

First of all, thanks for your response and not coming off with an attack...THANK YOU 

  

Alot of people pose that question about the bible being true.  I can only tell you that I can understand why you would have doubts, but I don't.  I believe the bible to be 100% the word of God.   

  

I guess one of the great things about free will and freedom of choice is we all get to have our own opinions. 

  

Again, thanks for the response and have a wonderful evening. 

You will always have people saying that the Bible was not written by God.  Nobody said it was ... but it does say it was inspired.  Daniel did not even understand what he was writing, and he was told to write because it would be revealed at the time of the end.  And, are they ever! 

 

I do note that those who use this reasoning, as well as "it's your interpretation", know nothing about what the Bible teaches.  If they did, they would not be making these statements.  The Bible has outlived thousands of scientific books that have become obsolete.  It is amazing that the Bible is very up-to-date.  It is us that are out of step. 

 

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