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April 22, 2006, 1:59 am PDT

Baby Wars

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I totally agree.  I am also a 24yr old mother of 1.   

You are agreeing to a lady's answer to a posting I made that was intended for Matt, and not her.   It is so apparent that I was referring to Matt, that I don't know how she believed that I was talking to her.  I mistakenly posted as an answer to her post, but common sense would tell you that I was not referring to her. 

 

Sorry about this, but, Matt, the posting was for you. 

 
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April 22, 2006, 2:06 am PDT

Baby Wars

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First off I'm a woman not a man. I'm 42 years old. I have 2 children one male and one female. So you are so off base thinking that my opinion is merely achieved because I have an XY chromosomal arrangement.  

   

So don't preach to me about child birth and motherhood - i've walked the walk and talked the talk.   

   

The statement that sexual intercourse is for reproduction doesn't explain the female orgasm which has no functional importance in reproduction. this is proven with your statement on rape - she would not have an orgasm yet could still become pregnant. therefore the female orgasm implies that sexual intercourse has more than reproduction as its objective and it is as important as reproduction because it has always existed as part of the female anatomy along with ovaries and a uterus.  

   

A woman that has been raped could give the child up for adoption - so even in the case of rape parenthood is not forced upon this woman.  

   

I don't expect one legal right for myself and my daughter and then feel my son should be denied the same legal rights afforded to both his mother and sister.  

Please tell me you don't really think I meant that post for you!  It was intended for Matt, and I mistakenly posted it as a reply to yours.  Surely you could tell I was referring to him.
 
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April 22, 2006, 2:13 am PDT

So you're Gay

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I guess I need to clarify. 

  

Spin, as I ment it is to mean my understanding of Jesus'  teachings. 

  

I do not pretend to think that I can ever be on the same level of God, be it He on mine or me on His. Gos and Jesus will always be above me. And I do not pretend to have blind faith.  

  

Because I do not understand God's ways, I find myself questioning and asking for His guidence in understanding Him and His wishes for me. It is up to me to listen. 

  

However, we are off topic. 

  

As a Christian and a gay male, I too live in contradiction to many other Christians.  

  

This is why I say not to place other's sins above your own. 

Jesus tought me that much.  

I know this topic was discussed sometime ago, but I really need to add a P.S. 

 

You state that you too live in contradiction to many other Christians.  You are so right!  You're first contradiction is that Christian and Gay are in contradiction one with the other.  Christ, as well as his disciples, condemned homosexuality.  Go back and read posting re this. 

 
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April 22, 2006, 9:30 pm PDT

The Whole Story

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I GUESS IF YOU KNEW THE WHOLE STORY YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND BETTER.NOT TO SOUND DISRESPECTFUL....BUT THERES ALOT TO THIS..BUT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MATTS FIGHT..AND I TRIED TO BE A FATHER TO MY..BUT WHEN SHE KIDNAPS HIM OUT OF STATE AND THE COURTS WONT DO ANYTHING..MY HANDS ARE TIED.

You are so right.  I don't know the whole story ... your story.  But this story repeats itself thousands of times through the years, with you, with me, with everybody.  Anytime we decide to deviate from God's law, we have to pay consequences.   

 

If Matt had not been having illicit (as far as God's word is concerned) sex, he also would not be in the situation he is in.  I am not excusing myself, as I am not perfect and we do commit mistakes.  That is why I know that deviating, even by fractions, from God's law will cost us in one way or another.   

 

That woman really had no right to take you to court, demand back support, and then kidnap your child.  I'm sure she is also paying in some way, or will pay in some way.   I hope yuo can get this resolved, for your own peace of mind. 

 

Having said, that, your story is in no way like Matt's.  He is refusing to accept this child because he didn't plan for it.  That child is here now, and she is a beautiful child.  If she can't melt his icy heart, nothing can. 

 

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