Messages By: clyle84

Seeing this show when it aired for the first time was very very hard. It had brought up a few memories that we not good. My mother joined "the Family" in her later teens and married a man that was also a part of the cult. Something that the "family" did was called. "Flirty Fishing". My mother was a part of this. Women wouldgo out and find men and "witness" to them. Meaning they would go to different places like bars and what not and flirt them men to either try to get them to join the cult or to give money to the cult. Even if these women were married it didn't matter, the men would have to agree with it. I don't remember being molested but then again, i have no memories from when i was a child except the ones that have come up more recently. But this is what they tought you to do. They would tell you to forget about the things that happened, and you were never supposed to talk about it. So thats the only thing you could do was block everything out. But let me tell you this, yeah I'm happy that i don't remember everything that happened, because i know things did happen. There are certain feelings that i get that are horable, Feelings that i can't explain, and they are mainly to do with sex. Its so hard some times because i will have to stop and break down. I get hysterical and can't stop crying. That is a very hard feeling to deal with. But you move on. you get over it. Because if i let everything that happened effect me, i wouldn't be able to make it. Yes, it is hard to deal with sometimes, but i have to. I am married to a wonderful man that is very understanding about everything, and i have a beautiful little boy who is the most amazing thing in this world.  Yes, i went through a lot of stuff growing up but that does not make me who i am today. I chose who i wanted to be. I wanted a better life, so i did and i'm still doing everything i can to make it better. Whats even crazier is that i am related by marriage to the man who started the cult. "Moses David". or His real name David Burge. One of my sisters is married to that mans grandson. Eww.. anyways. I have 15 siblings and all of us still deal with isues form this cult. My mother is in denial about everything, and says what ever happened is forgiven by Jessus. Yeah, whatever. But you know what, even with everything she did to us, and everything she let other people do to us,She is the one that i feel sorry for. I couldn't imagine how horrible it would be to have to live with that much guilt and that much shame. I mean, when she joined, she was still a baby herself, and having to be put through things like that, eally messes you up. I know there is no hope for her to ever get past this. She lives every day in sadness, whether she admits it or not. I wish that she could wake up, but she is already in to deep. There are so many different "homes" as the cult calls it, where a bunch of different familys live in one big house, and sometimes bring teenagers in to help with the kids and what not. I know i had to do that. A lot of these homes are based in Houston Texas, where i grew up. Some times (i have seen it happen a few times) you can drive down certain street there and you can see them (teenagers/young adults) standing on the street corner with buckets trying to pass out "flyers" (bible tracks) and raise money for the "missionaries" I had to do that for a few years also. But anyways, I just wanted to inform people about my own experience, and that despite what you are going through no matter how hard it gets, there is always a way out, and you can always choose to make your life better. I didn't have to do it on my own. My friends and family helped me get through it. Don't give up and you can make it through anything.

 

Celly

Wow, please take this the wrong way... What you wrote makes you sound like an idiot. Yes, I did do my research, but I didn't have to. My parents where a part of this cult, as well as my siblings and I. We had it bad, but what’s so sad, is that other children in this cult had it so much worse.

 

 

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There have been several cases where "so-called" repressed memories are realized, and then and only then does the person feel as if they have been damaged or harmed in some way. This is an example of someone who was not harmed by the original event, but are now harmed by the false information of the person bringing positive memories to the surface in a negative light.

If someone has had an experience, and does not feel harmed, would it not make sense that the real danger is from the person that is causing harm by telling them they are being harmed?

 

This sickens me. My "so-called" repressed memories do hurt when the come up. However, I deal with it, and then move one. Who the hell gives you the right to tell us that these memories that we have really don't cause us harm. If you would do some research, you would see many people telling you that they were all taught to suppress these feelings. Growing up, we were taught to not talk about what happened and to not think about it. When you are a child, and you go through pain, you want to forget about it. But guess what "DR.Bill" it doesn't mean that it doesn't hurt.

 

Let me try to explain, just one, and this is only one, of the kind of memories that I am talking about. How would you feel, if years after the abuse, you were trying to move on with your life. Trying to better yourself, because no body else would help you. You had started a family of your own and making it through because you knew you had to, and because you knew, you were strong. How would you feel, if one day out of nowhere, you had a memory of when you were five years old. You remember your mother giving you to an adult male, to "have his way with you" because it was for "Jesus". When you stand there crying and your own mother is telling you not to think about it, that it will be over soon. How in the hell!!!!!!! can you tell me that the only reason why that hurts, is because some one told you it should.

 

This is only one of the many, many, many, F@*%$# up things that happened in this cult. Then you find out the reason that this memory may have come up, was because your own daughter was now the age that you were when this happened to you. As a mother that hurts more than anything you could ever imagine.

 

Please, before you start spouting off, absolute crap about things you know nothing about, talk to some of the children (who are now adults) that were able to get away for the "Family". Hear some of their stories, listen with an open ear of what they went through and instead of, excuse my language, "Bitching" about how, they weren't really hurt, help them do something about it. Help find a way to stop this damn Cult once and for all.

 

they are everywhere. All over the world. They live in different "homes" where a numbera of familys al live together in one house. Also, I live in Houston Texas area, and you can find them everywhere here. I was telling some friends about how they might have seen memebers of the cult and they freeked out. When I told them how they could point some of them out by what they were doing, I always got the respons,"oh my god, I have seen them before." never fails. some members in Houston will stand on street corners and have buckets that say "help us raise money for the youth," or "Help us to support our missionaries." Its rather sad. But anyhow, The "leaders" are hard to find. They try to stay very hidden because they know they have messed up.

 Thank you for showing your concern. Actually, Thank all of you, who have come on this site and wrote from your heats. Hearing that people care enough to tell us that it effects them in a way that it should effect everyone who reads about this, does matter. Its so sad, because there are those people who will get on here and try to justify what these people have done. It's not just a TV show!!!! But trust me, some times you wish it was.
Those people who feel as if the "Family" is a good thing, need to sit down and read about it. They need to sit and listen to the young adults who have been through this and more. And then after that, if they still feel that way, then soemthings wrong.
I love what Dr. Phil has done. He has made it possible for (I think) millions to have a knowledge about these people. I hope one day, we can put a stop to this cult. There is no good coming from this. They say that they are telling people about god, and getting people saved, but its all bull crap. when there is so much twisted teachings, how can they think that they are doing right. well anyhow, its sad, these people are sick and need help.