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October 14, 2005, 9:57 pm PDT

THE DOUBLE EDGE SWORD

I WROTE TO FOLLOWING TO MY HUSBAND AND WONDER HOW MANY 

WOMEN AGREE, AND IF SO HOW HAVE YOU FACED THE FEAR ? 

  

I am trying so hard to figure out how to make you feel more loved ,respected, appreciated. I have this great fear though that once me telling you all these things you would one day get a big head or some how figure if your this good, maybe your better off without me. I sometimes wonder if this is why women do not tell their husbands how they really feel. Because to point out to a man all his good qualities would be to point out all her bad qualities. I know men who eventually do get a big head and say well if I am that good then maybe I am to good for her and need to find something better . Then on the other hand men who do not get told these things they feel inadequet and go look else where to prove that they are loved,respected, and appreciated. So it is a double edged sword .
 
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October 16, 2005, 1:56 pm PDT

Relationship Myths

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I haven't heard from you so I was wondering if you still wanted the free "Family" book.  E-mail me at hasina15@yahoo.ca to give me your address as to where to send it to you for free.  Thanks.
maybe consider reading the book I just completed, For Women Only by shaunti, I cant say I agree with the book be it does have alot of useful info.
 
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October 16, 2005, 4:04 pm PDT

BOOK : For Women only

I just read a book called  For Women Only      by Shaunti Feldhahn 

I am wondering what others that have read it have felt about its content ? 

I think it should be a women beware, due to its way of poisoning our thinking that 

sapossedly the way men are programmed we are to just except that they are cheaters 

and to just learn to deal with that fact. Feed back would be deeply appreciated. 

 
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October 16, 2005, 7:58 pm PDT

Internet/Chat Love

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 Hi, I just wanted to say that love is GRAND and it has changed my life tremendously.  The internet is a wonderful tool to find a mate and I didn't join any dating service.  After my divorce in 2000, I was sad and lonely.  But, thanks to the internet, I am happily married to a wonderful man.  He is not perfect and I do not expect that to happen as I have flaws of my own as well.  But together we fit as in emotion, mood and life values.  He lived in Indiana and did move up to Wisconsin, where I live, and together we live in bliss.  Although.  my youngest daughter is not at happy with my man, she does accept the fact that we are happy and her dad is her dad.  My husband does not try or claim to be anything but fair with her such as any situation to do with myself, otherwise is directed to her dad for guidance.  This does create tension at times, but overall things around our new home is happy and healthy.

I to met my current husband online, yes there is to this day alot of  

people that lie and abuse the thoughts and feelings of others online. 

I do not recommend it to everyone, but true love is out there and 

its not nessasarly in your back yard. We have been married 5 yrs 

now, I do  admit even though we chatted online for over a year just as 

friends without any intentions of ever meeting. Therefore alot 

of the communication was easier and free of alot of lies. We had 

nothing to gain from lieing. There to is alot that never gets completely  

understood. Meaning when we met and then married we only thought 

after over a year of chatting we covered all the communication, but learned 

to late that alot was misuderstood or not covered at all. But because 

we both are committed to our marriage are willing to comprimise on 

the other stuff. We are determined to make it work, because we learned 

from the beginning that we both hold total committment to each other 

our top prioity. Which was our first attraction the shared values and goals. 

 
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October 16, 2005, 8:09 pm PDT

cheating is cheating

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After 25yrs of marriage & 2 kids & knowing that cheating is wrong-I have falled in love with someone else-it just happened-we have never made love but we're close-we spend alot of time talking on the phone -see each other once in a while-we have grown to know & love each other in ways that neither of us have ever experienced-we've never loved like this ever in our lives(ages 45 & 52). At one time I loved both of them but it's gotten to where I love my husband because I've been with him for so  long but I love this other man so much more.  He wants to marry me & would do it tomorrow if he had a chance.Husband hasnt been so innocent.  As stresses of life come along he hasnt treated me so well recently.  He has cut me down & talked about me & made me feel terrible after years & years of being dedicated to him & my family.  This honestly made me love this other man even more & decide that I want to be with him the rest of my life.  I have a daughter that will graduate soon & feel that we should wait until this time to be together. It's an important time in her life & I (& this other man) don't want to ruin it for her.  The kids have seen how I've been treated & honestly looking back I have not been treated as nicely as I thought I was all of these years & have really been controlled all of these years by my husband & his family.  It really is over as far as I'm concerned. He is the type that will never realize that & cant see anything that he does wrong.  Says he's sorry for the way he has treated me the last couple of years & will make it up to me.  I dont think he can & dont even want him to. It's just so amazing that this has happened to me after all of these years.  It's like it was suppose to happen. We feel that God has given us this beautiful love & kept it going stronger & stronger every day.  Comments please. Thank you. 

And for me whether its coming from the husband or the wife its no 

different. It is wrong none the less. If your marriage has failed then get out of 

it. However dont look for the happiness in another while your still married. 

Getting out of a stale marriage is one thing, but cheating while your still  

married or living with your spouse is out right sick. Sorry its my comment. 

 
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October 17, 2005, 3:42 pm PDT

I totally agree

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I have not heard of this book but it sounds like it is supporting men and for women to accept that women are to just put up with crap from men? correct me if I am wrong but no way would I reccomend a book like this to any one. There is absolutley no reason for men (or women) to cheat and no reason that the other should accept this as normal and to learn to deal with it. I personally have a wonderful husabnd who has never cheated and has no desire to cheat nor do i. marriage is about two people becoming as one meaning they are partners with love and respect for one another and if the marriage is healthy and good then there will be no need to cheat. And if one does cheat then the other deserves to get upset and and to demand answers and the one cheating most definetly needs to deal with the issue by either getting help eith his selfishness and to own up to his(her) stupidity, and it takes two to make a marriage and if one decides to cheat then there is probably a reason why therefore he/she needs to give an explanation why and the other too needs to work on themselves as there is probably something lacking from both sides. Men (women) are not programmed to cheat, for God did not create them to cheat, he created them to be partners and helpmates for one another, this author needs to get a clue and not be encourage those who are married to a cheater to accept it as the norm, it is not the norm, it is a choice.

Here is the website for this book if anyone cares. I really think us women need to speak up 

and refuse to except this type of behavior. Supposedly this book is Christian oriented I have no clue  

where in the bible it says God programmed men to be this way..  

http://www.4-womenonly.com/forum.aspx 

 
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October 31, 2005, 7:44 am PST

Dr. Phil's Relationship Rescue book

Iam also reading the book and stuck at the part where we are suppose to write down our Emotional ,physical, spiritual needs. I have been pondering over this section for several days 

and can not still come up with answers to these. I do not recall what he says to do if we do not 

even know these ourselves. I do recall him saying how can we tell someone our needs, if we do not 

even know them ourselves ????  Any help ??? 

 
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October 31, 2005, 8:05 am PST

My 2 cents

I highly recommend that if anyone is going to go and snoop to find out if 

their spouse is infact cheating. Then you before hand need to 

have a real plan on just what you intend to do about it. 

You must prepare yourself in ever shape form and fashion. 

Like emotionally, physically, finacially etc. Its one thing to want to find out, 

but you have be prepared for action if your worse fear turns out to be true. 

I always say go by your gut feelings, they usually never let you down. 

 
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November 1, 2005, 2:59 am PST

I Feel Your Anxiety

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My homelife was abusive from a young age. Mental and verbal and emotional mostly. I have been punched by my dad. THings ended up being good with us until I married a nice man and my dad lost control of me. My hubby works 80-100 hours aweek, I get to stay home. We have a really nice house. I have 2 children, one from a boyfriend 14 years ago and our toddler who is 3. My 14 yr odl was molested by an ex husband of mine. She has been diagnosed with bipolar, ptsd, and anxiety disorder. My parents wanted me to NOT press charges on ex husband for the molestation. ARE THEY CRAZY i guess so.

Then when my daughter was diagnosed with bipolar, they told me it was my fault and if my husband and myself would spend more time with her she would be ok. We live with her so we spend all our time with her...

I had to have her admitted to a psych hospital (not fun for a mom) and my dad said I should be the one who is locked up.

Anyhow things go tso back we stopped talking for about 1 year. I have begun speaking to them again but cannot get past the last couple years of the stuff with my daughter. Whenever I bring her up in conversation and what is going on with her illness they change the subject or tell me to go to schurch. I do go to church and do not get me wrong I believe and have faith. BUT a mental illness just doesn't go away. Why don't they get it,

I try to not talk about my daughter with them and then they say they feel left out. SO then I end up not talking to them at all.

Am I wrong?

I am 34yrs and divorced my daughters father after 12 yrs of marriage, 

he actually left us for another women and her kids. The oldest is now 

16 yrs old she was your normal kiddo growing up very lovable NO 

behavior problems what so ever. Then we divorced in 2000 she was then 10 

and in 2003 she went totally out of control, ran away from me etc. She ended 

up going and living with her dad for almost 2 years till he quickly realized 

I was not lieing she was becoming a major handful ( behavior wise). 

He sent her packing back to me in 2004 she had at this point became sexually active, 

breaking the law, drugs, 2 suicide attempts the list goes on. He had her in counciling 

there and a diagnosis of psycho social disorder and adhd and they were medicating her. 

Which was only working about 40% of the time. Again he sent her back to me after he had enough 

and her behavior started causing martial problems between him and his current wife.  

He sent her back and telling me , he did not want her back she was not welcomed back period.  

I never told her of these statements I am not going to devistate her more. Since I have had her I to took her to a Psychologist and after he and I pondering over how her behavior is. He diagnosed her 

with Bipolar, major depression, etc. We took her off the med's her doctors had her on while with her dad. Wow all I can say is that I was Blessed with a good doctor the first time around, the medications 

have given me a totally different child , went from straight F's to within 5 weeks on the medications 

to high C's, low B's and she earned her own way out of the local High schools behavioral managed class room ( very structured) even over a year later she is still doing Awesome. Very focused ,goal oriented, and looks back at the things she had done in past as major stupid. Anyway no I am not a fool ,I to this day have not let my guard down with her. Though her doctor tells me the Bipolar etc is 

hareditary and she will have to be medicated for life etc.  I do not want to believe this I think 

this is a clear example of a product of a very bad divorce of the parents.  Plus of course only this being on top of all the other teen pressures of today. She is not mature enough to know how to deal 

with such tramendous (pyschological issues). I think the medications for now help her to stay more 

focused on the normal daily demands of life at her age and clouds out all the other stuff, she shouldnt have to deal with anyway. I hope that she will beable to stop these medications once she has gotten older , more mature in knowing how to deal with various stresses in life. 

Your right mental illness does not go away but a person can learn/mature through counciling 

and other experiences how to deal with them in a more structured /rational way . We can't change the past but we can control our future in learning how to not let it make us what we eventually become . 

Its hard and I do blame myself and their dad for being selfish and not taking into consideration 

the anger,hate, etc we grew to have for one another and allow it to bleed over and effect our children whom were totally inoccent of it all.   I will be forever by their side to hopfully absorb all the 

hurt , pain etc they may feel which should not be their feelings at all ,they did nothing wrong. 

Anyway I am detrmined to be there to give them what they need to help restructure their futures. 

I owe that to them, I wished their dad seen it this way to but again we literally hate each other even 

after 5 yrs we do not get along. I will strive each day to let them grow up and project their own 

feelings, thoughts , wishes and dreams about the kind of person their dad is without injecting my 

own negative perceptions. I also believe with God'd help they will continue to grow up and have their own happy healthy lives. Despite mine and their dads stupid inconsiderations, selfishness and corruption we may have very well brought to their lives. 

Hope this helps it was I felt simular to your own struggles. God Bless :) 

 
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November 2, 2005, 10:16 pm PST

I found this

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  My husband and i would like to have children and we are unable to because i have my tubes tied. if theres anyone out there that knows of a place that doesnt cost a arm and a leg to get the tubal reversal done would you plz get in contact with me . thanks  

I am to chicken but, it has some good reviews, I to am looking for tubal reversal. 

But they do go for 5000 to 6000 but hey thats not to bad considering what its worth. 

Here's a website you may consider just info for you again I am a little chicken of it 

http://www.riobravoreversal.com/ 

 

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