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October 15, 2005, 6:42 pm PDT

I about fell out of my chair when I saw this

When I saw the preview for this show I seriously almost fell out of my chair.  I have been a fan of Mary-Kate my whole life.  When I came to college I became even more obsessed with her, which was the time when my eating problems really began to get out of control.  Before this, in my junior year of high school, I stopped eating and purged what I did eat, to drop weight.  Once I was down to about 115 I ate again.  However, once in college, the more I saw Mary- Kate the more I really wanted to be like her. She's famous and can do and meet anyone. She can even hire people to make sure she doesn't eat if she wants to.  She doesn't have to worry about money and growing up to get a job. I am 5'5", but my weight gain/loss pattern has stayed consistent with Mary- Kate's.  When she was at her lowest, so was I.  I weighed 70 some pounds last year, and I am now 90.  I gained because I thought it was for  the best, but it's not. I'm so miserable. I feel like a huge blimp.  I feel that I no longer look innocent. My stress about growing up and being in my junior year of college scared me so bad I cry every night.  I am a very nervous person, and I just want to die.  I generally gain in the summer, which I have, and now I have to start losing just like Mk is doing.  I hate myself regardless of my weight, but at a lower weight people notice me and like me a whole lot more.  Then I look sweet and perfect.  I want to meet MK so bad; I want to know is she's still anorexic, and if not how she gets through life now without it.   I know I need to quit this, but I have no other purpose in life right now. I feel that the people I know are disappointed in me when I gain. 

 
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October 17, 2005, 7:00 am PDT

just saw the show

Well, I just saw the show.  It was useless if you don't have children like me. Dr. Phil's only defense towards that girl stopping her obsession with mary-kate was because of her child.  For me, the show was just triggering!
 
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October 19, 2005, 2:30 pm PDT

triggering because

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 That wasn't Dr. Phil's only  course of action in her treatment, but for this girl, it was the most obvious.   It's different for everyone and everyone does have something positive to draw from.  If you don't have a child, there are inner qualities you can draw from too. 

What do you mean it was 'triggering'?   Why don't you seek some help?


The show was triggering from seeing mk all over the screen. Triggering means that it made me want to quit eating. I do need help, but I am never going to see a psychiatrist. I don't want help- let alone from prescription drugs.  I've dealt with anorexia for years.  This show just did not show me that I need to stop.  I gained weight because I felt so bad being 70 pounds, but now I just want to lose it- not just because of the show, but my weight gain does affect my life and the way people treat me. I do not have that many good qualities- none without anorexia.
 
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October 19, 2005, 2:33 pm PDT

why?

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That comment had me laughing, thanks!!  I had a few comments-- I don't remember Dr. Phil asking Jenni why she didn't like herself.  It is obvious that she has no self esteem but why?  She is a beautiful young lady--- I hope that she takes his advice to heart and seeks some help especially for her daughter's sake.  Kids notice everything their parents do and want to emulate them, so Jenni could end up passing on this disorder to her daughter.  It is sad that so many young people think that what they see in the magazine and TV is real.  Celebrities have make up artists, hair stylists, wardrobe assistants.... they don't look like that on their own--- it takes a village, so they say!!  The magazines touch up photos (have you ever noticed that women in magazines never have lines on their foreheads?) Sometimes, it's not even their own body but someone else's.  Photos can lie!   

  

When I was in my teens/twenties, I was extremely skinny--- not because I was anorexic, though.  I never consciously dieted or did anything that caused me to be skinny, just genetics I guess.  But it can be a curse as well, I got a lot of jokes about if I stood sideways and stuck out my tongue I looked like a zipper.  I was made fun of by alot of people, it definitely wasn't something the guys liked.  People tried to feed me all the time!!   When I look at my highschool yearbook, all the signatures in there made comments about me being so skinny.   This was a few years before anorexia got so much attention, with Karen Carpenter's death.  Anyway, my point is that being too skinny is not attractive, it looks unhealthy.  I grew out of my 'problem' after having three children, I finally have filled out in a few places.   I finally think I look good, no more ribs showing or hipbones sticking out.  I like my "mom" body. 

  

Finally, I agree with the people here saying to be happy with yourself!  This isn't about being perfect but learning to love ourselves the way were are.  God made only one YOU!   

  

Why don't we try to emulate celebrities that exhibit good virtues instead of just the outside?  I haven't always been a Dr. Phil fan (my dad kept telling me to watch his show, so I did and now I love Dr. Phil!)  Dr. Phil is a good person who uses his celebrity and wealth to help others.  That's something that people should want to emulate! 

"When I was in my teens/twenties, I was extremely skinny--- not because I was anorexic, though.  I never consciously dieted or did anything that caused me to be skinny, just genetics I guess.  But it can be a curse as well, I got a lot of jokes about if I stood sideways and stuck out my tongue I looked like a zipper.  I was made fun of by alot of people" 

  

Saying stuff like this in NO way helps ED people. The only thing this does is just make us feel bad.  We're ana because obviously we get something out of being skinny. No one teases me when I lose- the exact opposite actually. 

 
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October 19, 2005, 2:51 pm PDT

excuse me?

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I am 20 years old and went to a private all girl school in middle and high school. Many of these girls were very high achievers. Many of these girls were very isolated and coddled from the world. Many of them had "eating disorders". 

  

I find it interesting how eating disorders are something that have only really been in existence for the past 30 years.Most of these girls are like you and don't really have any "real world" experience. I also find it interesting how statistically speaking it tends to effect middle, upper-middle, and upper class caucasian girls from the suburbs in North America and Western Europe. Almost no one in Eastern Europe, Asia, Africa, and South America has these so called "disorders."  

  

You sound like you are almost proud of your eating disorder. You brag about your scrapbook and you refer to celebrities. I personally find it disappointing that all of the years and struggle that went to women's liberation has ended up with well off girls obsessing about their bodies. Just think about your true motivations for doing these things and not the usual cliches of "I want to be perfect."Do you think some rural peasant Chinesse farmer woman is going to be counting calories? Or even a migrant farmer girl here in this country? Do you think that guys, or anyone else for that matter, wants you to be or cares if you are 85 pounds? Or are you doing this for attention and to give you something to talk about on the so called "pro ana" sites out there with your girlfriends? 

  

I don't mean to necessarily sound harsh or cold, I just feel like maybe had the girls who have these disorders would have been treated more harshly by their parents and society, making themselves puke or starving themselves would be the last thing on their mind. 

"I don't mean to necessarily sound harsh or cold, I just feel like maybe had the girls who have these disorders would have been treated more harshly by their parents and society, making themselves puke or starving themselves would be the last thing on their mind. " 

  

I can tell by your message that you do not know much about ED's. Many anorexics/bulimics have had really bad lives. A lot have been abused.  I am treated different with my ED, and you cannot tell me that I am basically spoiled.  True, people who are really poor don't have these problems very often at all- but that's because their friends/family don't treat them differently based on how they look. Don't you people get it?-- A skinny person is treated better by society (models, actresses), members of the opposite sex (you get too skinny they finally leave you alone), friends/family/acquaintances (they treat you as if you are innocent and sweet). Skinny people look younger and they don't look grown up. It's a way to erase the past, go back and 'fix' everything. I hate looking like a woman- men look at me.   

  

So, no parents being tougher won't work because being too skinny shows people that something is wrong. Someone will always react- even if it's not the parents. It shows people the hurt, pain, and guilt. People respond to it. It's not for attention- it's for lack of attention to being older and sexual. 

  

  

 
 
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October 20, 2005, 2:10 pm PDT

that's ok

kitnkabdle- that's ok. I just wanted to let you know that LOTS of people would give their right leg almost to be as skinny as you/your mom are naturally.  I have to have a very strict diet to even maintain a low weight because my metabolism is all messed up from starving myself. I see skinny people eating fast food and it makes me want to die. What I want is so difficult, and I half kill myself to obtain it. I am not naturally skinny, so comments as you made do seem to make little of ED's. I understand that you did not mean it offensive- so I am not at all mad, but I did want to let you know how ED ears interpret it for future instances. I am sorry that you were teased. Thanks for responding. Hope you are more comfortable in your body now.
 
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October 29, 2005, 7:21 pm PDT

grr...

I know Dr. Phil tries to help people with shows about anorexia, but all he does is trigger me to lose the weight I've gained. I feel so huge, and whatever Kathy has gained, if anything, is probably no where near what I weigh now. Just looking at the smallness of other anorexics make me feel like you-know-what. I'm still underweight, but on the borderline I think. I just don't see it- I just see extreme fat. My metabolism is completely messed up now, so it is extremely hard for me to lose weight, and super easy to gain.
 
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October 29, 2005, 7:35 pm PDT

about me

This is my first time writing in this message board. My low weight was 70, and now I'm 90. I am not recovered, and I feel like ripping the fat off myself, but my metabolism is completely messed up. I gain if I eat somewhat 'normally,' even though I'm strictly vegan.  It's so hard to lose again, and not fitting into my favorite jeans, etc. is killing my spirit. What made me write, because I've read posts on here before, is that my life just sucks. I have no friends, which is my own fault but to late to fix, and my interests are so narrowed it's sad. I don't eat enough fats or omega-3s (or whichever it is), so my brain seems to be working slow. My memory is awful and it takes forever to do my homework. (I'm in college). Sometimes, I get this strange feeling in my brain- it's like something is putting pressure all around it, especially in the front part.  I want to make it in the world, but I am so scared. I'm scared to not lose weight, to continue all alone... I really feel like there is no one in the whole world that is like me. I never go out, I avoid people, and I have panic attacks. Sometimes I feel so much pain in my heart yearning for something not in this world and so much numbness to the world around me. I don't get the world at all, I really don't. I feel that I have to be thin because at least then people pay attention to me.  At least when I focus on eating and weight I have something that connects me to this world. 

 
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October 30, 2005, 5:44 pm PST

Anorexia

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hey everybody... 

um im 14 so i understand if you think im too young to be on here..so if thats it you dont have to post or w/e ...anyway im 5'9" yes at 14...and weigh 112...even tho ppl w/ e.d. that could be triggering sooo im soooo sorry...anyway...i skip breakfast....lunch...and for dinner...i eat a lil bit i guess...im trying to lose weight still...b/c everytime i look in the mirror i see this fat chick...and its probably the one thing i can control in my life right now....i was juss recently given prozac for my depression and i started seeing a therapist...but the fact that im obsessed w/ my weight....makes me wonder...if i possibly have an e.d. too....idk tho j/w  

love all 

me.... 

it sounds to me that if you don't already have an ed, you are on your way to. But, let me tell you- I am 20, and you are too young to get heavily into this.  Anorexia takes all your time, emotions,  and friends. I am miserable. The more deeply you fall into anorexia, and the longer you have it, the more wrapped up you become. I am not trying to tell you that you are not anorexic- because I don't know- but if you can please try to stop it. Right now you can get help from your family and therapists. After the age 18 no one can really do anything. Anorexia eats your life away. It is horrible.
 
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November 3, 2005, 6:47 pm PST

hello!?

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I am sitting here watching the story about the woman with anorexia getting more and more annoyed. I know the woman on TV today acknowledged that she needed help and kudos to her for admitting it and trying to get better. I just wonder how putting her story on TV hurts others with the problem...they may think "she lived that was for 16 years so what is the problem?".   

  

My Aunt is 50 years old and has been somehow living with anorexia for over 30 years...she has so many physical problems yet she thinks that the rest of the world is at fault not her. She eats nothing with any nutritional value...she is the most selfish person I have ever met. My mother and my grandmother (before she died) tried to get her into treatment. Her Doctor is an enabler...he has helped her stay this way. He has not even diagnosed her because she doesn't want to hear it...she won't go to any other doctor because they all call her on her eating disorder.  I think her doctor should be sued for malpractice or maybe arrested for assisted suicide after she dies. My other Aunt bends over backwards to try to help her and she just uses her...it is pathetic. The anorexic one will allow the other to do so much for her that she becomes physically ill and does not take care of herself because she is so focused on the anorexic one.  I have suggested that they commit her...have talked to my therapist about whether or not that could be done...but my grandfather (the only one who could do it) doesn't think she has a problem. He even brags that she is eating better then ever and gaining weight...complete denial! She acts like she is some super great Christian but as far as I am concerned she is a horrible Christian...last time I checked suicide was not among the Christian teachings. She manipulates our family and has contributed to the demise of the family unit that I used to love being a part of.  She has ruined everything...God forbid anyone upset her!  I can't even stand the thought of family gatherings with that side of the family and I used to love them.  

  

I am glad that Kathy got help...but she has been every bit as selfish as my aunt. I hope she realizes the hurt she has caused her family and now will work extra hard to show them appreciation and love. It is so hard to be a family member of someone with this problem...it poisons every part of the relationship and the family! 

Anorexia is a disorder...a disease, not something that someone just decides to have.  Sure, it can start with a person wanting to lose weight, but it doesn't progress to someone being that thin without other issues.  I do not think Kathy is selfish- what a terrible thing to say.  If I were you, I would start focusing on how to help your aunt or other relatives instead of focusing on the aggravation she is causing you; to me, that is selfish.  I mean, just how is Kathy or your aunt selfish? Do you think your aunt is selfish because she wants attention? SHE NEEDS ATTENTION! When I weighed 70 pounds it was because I was so upset with myself.  And, do you know what keeps/kept me going, instead of killing myself flat out? God. My faith in God, that He had a plan for me, and Jesus, that His dying really did atone for my sins.  What I tend to doubt, though, is that I really am sorry for being human and sinning.  Everyone has trials, no one is perfect, and anorexia is a mental disorder. Think about what your flaws are, then think about having a mental disorder that made these flaws harder to overcome....would you be selfish for having a harder time dealing with your problems and having them show physically than someone else whose problems were masked?  Honestly, I feel that you may need to stop harboring such ill wishes toward you aunt.  Furthermore, why do you call her a horrible Christian? Making presumptions towards others' relationship with God certainly is not the best thing to do. Please, I am not trying to be rude, but you seem to very angry, and it is not helping you or her. 

 

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