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May 3, 2007, 7:13 am PDT

Both are to blame

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I do not agree with Kevin's behavior at all.  But watching Shannon sit there shaking her head and complaining about him, and saying he's hated her kids from the beginning, he's awful, blah blah, makes me nuts.  She needed a place to live so she stayed with him?  I cannot listen to one more helpless woman.  So, the logic here was:  Shannon "He's hated my kids from the start, he's bullied them for years, he sucks".  Kevin "She has raised rotten children with no manners and I hate them, they suck."  So HEY, let's have MORE kids!  And get MARRIED!  Yeah! 

 

Here's a tip folks.  This relationship, the children and the marriage did not just HAPPEN to you.  You chose it and your behaviors and the consequences.  Man up and grow up.

 

 

I totally agree with you.  What kind of woman would put up with a guy's mistreatment of her kids for years, then decide to marry him.  Sounds to me like she wanted his financial support over the welfare of her kids.  Her kids don't sound like "model children" either, but that's not their fault....it started with their Mother and then she makes very unsound decisions with their upbringing.  It sounded to me like the kids don't stand much of a chance to turn out good with or without Kevin in their lives.  But I do think that Kevin needs to be OUT of their lives.   I'll never understand why people like Kevin & Shannon bring more children into their unstable, abnormal & violent worlds.

Watching the Dr.Phil show has taught me one thing.....there are far more stupid folks in this world than I ever thought. :-)

 
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May 3, 2007, 6:49 pm PDT

Who do I believe?

Wow...this situation is a difficult one isn't it?  For some reason, just a gut feeling, I just can't believe the In-laws here.   They seem to be the types who have unrealistic ideals for everyone, especially a rebellious litttle daughter-in-law, who doesn't quite live up to "their" standards, which may or may not be realistic.  They also might think that "anyone" who doesn't live up to "their" standards might be unfit to be Mothers, especially the mother of their son's child, who they seem to be a bit obsessed with.  And their son, who happens to be in prison.....and they probably think it's their daughter-in-law's fault too.  I suspect it's they, who are in denial here.

I also suspect they do have a lot more money than Michele & think they can afford to get what they want, where she would have to really struggle financially to fight them.  I would've liked to have heard from Michele's daughter, to see what she thinks of all this, but I guess that would've been out of the question.  The first time that Father-in-Law opened his mouth, I have to confess I wanted Dr.Phil to throw him out....he just came across as a man who's used to getting his way & is very upset that he can't control the situation with his grand-daughter.   I doubt that counseling will buffer the rift between Michele and her In-laws. 

 
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May 4, 2007, 6:56 pm PDT

Realistic

I'm a realist, so my thoughts on the morbidly obese woman is to take all the help she can get if she wants to save her life, period.  The abuser/boyfriend must go.....just get him out of her life, he's not helping her one bit.  She must think more of herself than to let herself be abused just to have a "boyfriend".....he's not a boyfriend in any sense of the word.   She's using him too, because her family won't take the responsibility of helping to save her life.

 

The other boyfriend, Christian, is only trying keep Sunni from trying to go for her dreams because he knows deep down inside that if she loses the weight she needs to, she might really be a candidate for being a plus-sized model, & he'd lose her in a minute.  She'd find that there are many men out there who'd appreciate her for what she truly is.....a beautiful gal with a great personality.  Yes, she does need to lose some weight, but she'll still be a beautiful big girl....what's wrong with that, she'd be healthier, that's all.  I think she can do MUCH better than Christian & I hope she realizes that. 

 
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May 7, 2007, 6:19 pm PDT

They ARE a Mess

In the very beginning, Dr.Phil said that this family is a mess.....and he's right.  They're not even worth watching on TV, and I doubt they'll be saved from themselves and/or each other (all of them).  It's hard to say which one is more screwed up.....even the kids aren't very realistic about their futures.   Those boys better starting thinking about getting an education, because they're sure not going to make it in Hollywood. 

 
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May 8, 2007, 6:09 pm PDT

It's All About Orlena

Well, Orlena has gotten herself into a dilemma & is wanting someone to tell her what to do, so she can save herself the guilt.  Her present husband seems like a "gem" and she "should" commit to him & their marriage. But somehow, I don't think she will.  If she goes back to her ex-husband, it might be doing her present husband a favor.  He deserves the kind of wife he thought he was getting, one who is totally committed to their partnership & life together.  I have trouble believing that Orlena can do that with him.  No matter what she does though, someone is going to be terribly hurt.
 
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May 8, 2007, 6:21 pm PDT

Can't Handle'em

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But you know that's the very reason I'm watching them. Like a moth to a flame, I want to watch this messy family. It's like a reality soap opera to me. Maybe I just don't get enough "messy" in my own life. I thrive on watching them thrive on "messy". Brang it on, DrPhil!
I just can't handle'em.  I can't believe they're real, they are so ridiculous.  And to think, that in the first installment of this circus, Gene said that Myra's the most intelligent woman he's ever met.  My immediate thought was.....he hasn't met many women.  It's hard to decide who acts the most childish in this family.  They have no clue about what a real marriage is.
 
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May 10, 2007, 6:31 pm PDT

He's a Time Bomb

Just waiting to go off.  Jeffrey is dangerous and there's not much telling what he's capable of doing.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if we don't see his name in the newspapers one of these days.  I hope Jen has good protection from him, because he seems the type that would have the attitude "If I can't have her, then no one can".   He's a whacko!
 
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May 12, 2007, 7:21 am PDT

Not Again

Oh goodie, yet another Dr.Phil show involving Mother's pushing children into show biz.   From what I've seen of these shows in the past (& there have been a few) they are nothing but  obsessed Mothers acting more like brats than their not-particularly talented children.  And they can all justify their behavior for one obscure reason or another. 
 
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May 14, 2007, 3:55 pm PDT

Priorities

Well, I watched the show today, & feel that these Mom's priorities are really screwed up.  I have to admit that Gracie did seem to be the most talented & most "real" of the kids, & her Mom did seem to behave the best.  But I have real problems with 12 & 13 year old saying that their world would end if they don't become stars....it's the only thing they know how to do.  The way I see it, every single one of these kids should strive for college & if show biz happens, it happens.  But they ALL need to have alternative careers....because it's just not realistic that any of them will become a true "star".  They'd better be prepared for the real world...not the world their Mother's think they should aspire to.  I think the worst Mom was the sexpot who is trying to mold her daughter the same way.....you all know which one I'm talking about.  I think she wants her kid to be another Britney Spears....wow, isn't she a role model????   I also think the three boys have their Mother pegged pretty well......they just don't seem interested in becoming the "stars" their Mom wants them to be.  And the youngest of the three boys does seem to have a certain "something" that's very appealing...he might be good if someone discovers him before he gets much older.  He's still at the cute stage.  I'm afraid my general opinion so far of these Moms is not too good.....most of them act like it's "them" who's auditioning & wanting to be a star, not their kids.  There's going to be a lot of disappointed kids & Moms here, sooner or later.  I wonder if they can handle it.
 
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May 15, 2007, 7:06 am PDT

Delusional

I think there are more than a couple of delusional Moms on this show.  I hope their kids are allowed to get a college education so they can get a day job someday.  So far, Gracie does seem to have "it" and her Mom seems to be pretty sane about her influence.   And one Mom, Veronica, just needs to be kicked off the show.  Anytime a Mother has to be bleeped out in every sentence with her child & all the other children around, she's just over the top.  Her daughter could very well do much better if Mom wasn't around.  I'm sure Veronica would never believe it, but she's the biggest handicap her daughter has. 
 

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