Messages By: katlover

Quote From MommaJenna: 

I have no doubt that gay people experienced feelings that they were 'different' when they were children.  However, i think a lot of heterosexual children also have these feelings of being different.  Even Jeffrey Dalmer knew at a young age that he was different.   He had feelings during science class later in high school where he wanted to eat the animal (frog I think) that they were disecting.  Now instead of rejecting that thought, like most would,  he dwelt on it and allowed it to fester.  He then began fantasising more and more about relationships with men - picking up a hitchhiker, killing him and then eating him.  Well, this fantasy came into reality one night and after that there was no stopping him.

I hope there is no anger at the above example.  It IS an extreme one, but it goes to show how one thought that is wrong can lead to actions if we dwell on those inpure thoughts instead of rejecting them.  I do understand that homosexuals do not feel it is their 'choice' to be gay because they have been believing and thinking for many, many years about the subject.
 

Well I am angry and deeply offended by this comparrison. What are you thinking about and to quote Dr Phil How's that working for ya? 

MommaJenna;  

To answer your question about me being happy being a heterosexual at some time in my life. The answer is no. Not one single day was I happy being married to a man. I have always been happy being a mother and a grandmother.  

I came out at the age of 46 to myself and then to others at 47 years old. I was attracted to women at a very young age but I wanted to have children and back then being married to a man was the only way to have kids. I did not want to come out till my children were adults because I could not let their father take them away from me.  

This happens so much. You folks, who are heterosexual have no idea how many gay people have sacrificed being true to themselves; living empty miserable lives by marrying someone they didn't love or feel attracted to. Then you have two adults in an empty and sad marriage. You have no idea how many gay people have had their children taken from them when it became known they were gay. Thousands and thousands of gay parents have lost their kids only because they are gay. What about the kids? Kids could care less if their parents are gay. Kids want their parent's love. 

Thankfully things have changed. I know many homosexual couples who have families now thanks to modern fertility techniques and adoption. If they had had these techniques when I was younger; I would have chosen one of these ways to have children. Oh if I could only go back 35 years ago, take my partner with me; we would have had beautiful & very happy children together. I am not saying my kids are not happy. But they would have been much more happier and stable with two loving partents; even if they had two mommies. That is my only regret in my life. 

I get furious when I hear people saying gay people do not make good parents. I have even heard our president refer to this; saying marriage and children should be with a man and a woman only. I am hear to tell you he and others who feel this way are wrong. 

Momma Jenna: 

That example put all homosexuals in the same category as mass murders. It perpetuates horrible stereotypes of homosexuals. Word can and do hurt and sadly all too often kill people.  

MommaJenna, talking to someone who had turned away from homosexuality does not let you know how it is. It is but one man's experience. If you want to learn something about gay people and what we are like; I would urge you to visit the web page for PFLAG Parents & Friends of Lesbians & Gays. It appears that you would like to learn more about gay people and who we are.  

I love women. In particular, I love one woman. And why do I love her? The answer may surprise you and others. We both love to read. We both are artistic. We absolutely love spending the day in the garden. We like to travel. I was drawn to her because she is a mom and she has three grandchildren. We spend our evenings over dinner talking about them. We are about the same age. She has red hair. She is intelligent, kind, compassionate, respectful. She laughs from the belly with her head thrown back. And we are going camping at the beach tomorrow. :) 

Would you like to tell the folks here what is like growing up with a gay father? It may shock some people. LOL He must be a good dad from the tone and words in your post! 

My kids think I am a pretty cool mom. Except they hate the way I dress. Too old fashioned I guess. LOL 

Do ya'll know how many gay teenagers commit suicide because of all the negative messages they get from their peers who get that from their parents? How would you feel if you knew your children repeated your feelings about homosexuals to a kid in their class who they perceived as gay and that child killed themselves? How would that feel? 

If I was a homosexual kid and read the stuff in here against gay people I might have gone out and put a bullet into my head. Consider your words and how they hurt people! 

What child raised in a home with 2 mommys of 2 daddys whould be "NORMAL" when he or she grows up?????  

Lots of kids. Millions of kids. All three of my children are heterosexual, all three are married and two of them have given me the gift and status of being a Grandma! 

Maybe alot of men or women were hurt by their girlfriends or boyfriends and thats why they turned gay, or where abused by the same sex growing up, I dont know.  

All I know is people choose to become gay  

I have a friend who is gay and he knows its wrong but its his choice.  

Happily straight and married with 2 chlidren  

Shauna  

If that were the case then 25 percent of women (or more) would be lesbians. Shauna, one friend who is gay does not tell the entire story. Keep reading.............. 

Also, someone (not sure who), said that marriage is for procreation purposes. Should people who can't have children be able to marry?  

Good point! And I loved the part that sex was for making babies only. Of all the folks out there in bed making love right now; very few of them are thinking about making a baby.  

They are probably having more fun than we are right now!