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October 22, 2005, 9:19 am PDT

lying child

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We have a 7 year old girl, who lies about the simplest things and my husband and I are not sure how to discipline her and make her understand why lying is not right.  We've already tried talking to her, grounding her, taking toys away, etc..  It is important to the both of us to solve this problem now before it gets worse.  If anyone has any ideas or helpful advise we would really appreciate it!!
HAVE YOU TRIED PRAYER?
 
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October 22, 2005, 9:38 am PDT

LEVITICUS 20

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You preach ad nausea based on the assumption that homosexuality is a sin. 

That remains to be proved and since Jesus never spoke on the subject, you're on shaky ground. 

I CAN TELL FROM YOUR QUOTE THAT YOU DON'T READ YOUR BIBLE.   HOMOSEXUALITY IS SPOKEN OF IN THE BIBLE.  GOD SPOKE TO MOSES ABOUT IT......READ LEVITICUS 20.  I LOOK FORWARD TO HOW YOU WILL TRY TO EXPLAIN THAT ONE AWAY.  IT'S AS PLAIN AS DAY...RIGHT THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE.
 
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October 22, 2005, 9:49 am PDT

YOUR CHOICE

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Recently I have become a Chrstian and now attend church regularly.  I have struggled to understand what God wants for me, and how this pertains to my orientation.  There was a book written by E.T. Sundby, "Calling the Rainbow Nation Home" which has really helped me understand my love of God even though I am gay.  So much of the bible has been misinterpreted over the years due to inaccurate trasnlation into other languages.  I think people need to understand that it is honestly not a choice. I did not choose to be gay.  Why would I want to be the black sheep of the family?   

WELL I'M GLAD THAT YOU LOVE GOD.  I ALSO BELIEVE THAT IF YOU TRUELY LOVED GOD, YOU WOULD WANT TO DO HIS WILL.  I THINK THAT BEING GAY IS A CHOICE.  I KNOW THAT GOD MADE YOU...AND GOD DOESN'T MAKE MISTAKES.  GOD SAID EVERYTHING HE MADE WAS GOOD.  AND I ALSO KNOW THAT IT IS IMPOSIBLE FOR GOD TO LIE.  SO ASK YOURSELF THIS......"HOW CAN GOD CONTRADICT HIMSELF?"  MY POINT IS....GOD DIDN'T MAKE YOU THAT WAY.  THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN IMPARTED INTO YOU AS A YOUNG CHILD WHILE YOU WERE GROWING UP....BUT GOD CAN DELIVER YOU FROM THAT SPIRIT OF HOMOSEXUALITY.  ALL IT TAKES IS SINCERITY.  YOU HAVE TO REALLY WANT TO CHANGE.  I'M NOT CONDEMING YOU FOR BEING GAY....THAT'S NOT FOR ME TO DO.  I'M SIMPLY TELLING YOU THAT I LOVE YOU AND SO DOES GOD.....AND HE WANTS YOU TO BE IN HIS WILL.
 
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October 22, 2005, 2:39 pm PDT

Listen to God

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I read the Bible judiciously and I don't trust every translations. I prefer to listen to the scholars.

INSTEAD OF LISTENING TO SCHOLARS....WHY DON'T YOU TRY LISTENING TO GOD AND HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM? 

 
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October 24, 2005, 2:29 pm PDT

GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD

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And how may I ask do you know that I don't have a relationship with Him?

MAYBE YOU DO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD....BUT WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP DO YOU HAVE?  ARE YOU REALLY IN THE WILL OF GOD?  DO YOU LISTEN TO WHAT GODS SAYS TO YOU?  AND DO WHAT HE TELLS YOU TO DO?  GOD SPEAKS TO PEOPLE.  DO YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WHERE GOD SPEAKS TO YOU?  MY POINT IS...IF YOU HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD, YOU WOULD DO HIS WILL AND STUDY YOUR BIBLE MORE.  SOMETIMES THE  SCHOLARS ARE WRONG.  I RECOMMEND YOU READ THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELF AND GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF GOD'S WORD AND A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD......A RELATIONSHIP WHERE GOD CAN USE YOU TO HIS GLORY. 

 
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October 24, 2005, 2:39 pm PDT

CHRISTIAN PEOPLE

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I can completely empathize with you and also feel distraught, saddened, and even angry. My only  

daughter is gay and lives with her partner who is Venezualan. She is 35 and is a successful  

professional. She came out when she 18. I too, inaccurately thought that she would " grow out " 

of it. But now realize and believe that it is NOT a choice. I accept and love her for herself. I visit them 

and stay with them periodically. [ I live several states away . I only wish for her happiness , regardless of her orientation. I applaud your loving and open minded attitude towards your  

daughter. Too often, a parent's love is conditional. If we really love our children , it should be  

unconditionally and complete. I get so angry sometimes, when I hear so called  " Christians " 

judging and looking down on gays. They live in such a narrow , self righteous world.  Jesus 

taught love and tolerance. That certainly isn't followed today by most people.  

I AM A CHRISTIAN.  I BELIEVE THAT YOU SHOULD NOT "STOP" LOVING SOMEONE BECAUSE OF THEIR SINS.  JESUS DID TEACH TOLERANCE AND UNCONDITIONAL LOVE TOWARD ONE ANOTHER.  THE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUDGING AND LOOKING DOWN ON GAYS ARE NOT TRULY CHRISTIANS.  IT IS NOT OUR PLACE TO JUDGE THOSE THAT ARE IN SIN....BECAUSE WE WERE ONCE IN SIN TOO....AND STILL TODAY HAVE FAULTS IN OUR LIVES.  EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES AND FALLS SOMETIMES.  WE MUST LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES, REPENT, AND TURN AWAY FROM SIN.  KEEP LOVING YOUR DAUGHTER  WITH UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND PRAY FOR HER.
 
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October 25, 2005, 1:26 pm PDT

GOD LOVES YOU

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you said: DO YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WHERE GOD SPEAKS TO YOU?  

  

I don't hear voices. But God speaks in many ways. Since he is Love, he speaks through loving people. The Bible could be one way, except it is mediated by culture and time. The prohibitions against homosexuality are so few and far between, (none by Jesus or in the Letters) so restricted as to their application that they are barely a whisper in the grand scheme of things. God speaks the language of love, not condemnation and retribution. 

I THINK THAT IT IS VERY SAD THAT GOD DOESN'T SPEAK TO YOU.  ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO WILL NEVER REALIZE ALL YOU CAN BE IN GOD.  MAYBE GOD IS SPEAKING TO YOU....MAYBE YOU'RE JUST NOT LISTENING TO HIM....BUT GOD DOES SPEAK...LOUD AND CLEAR.  MAYBE YOU SHOULD CONSIDER REALLY GETTING IN TOUCH WITH GOD AND TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO HE REALLY IS.  I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU.....BUT I SERVE A GOD WHO CAN DO ALL THINGS ACCORDING TO MY FAITH IN HIM.  HE WILL NEVER LEAVE ME NOR FORSAKE ME.....NO MATTER WHAT.  BUT GOD DOES HAVE A WRATH.  EVENTUALLY, IF WE DON'T TURN FROM OUR SINS, WE WILL SUFFER HIS WRATH.  IF YOU BELIEVE GOD CAN DELIVER YOU FROM ALL YOUR SINS, ASK HIM, AND HE WILL.......HE LOVES YOU. 

 

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