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March 25, 2009, 9:27 am PDT

03/25 Octuplets: On the Record

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I am dismayed that Gloria Allred has become involved in this case.  She is an angry woman who tends to exaggerate facts to support her overemotional attacks on whoever gets in her sights.  I fear that Nadia will find herself haunted by this woman.

  Right now Nadia needs some time to relax and rest and get settled.  I am a mom and I can tell you I felt exhausted after giving birth to one normal child.  She needs rest.  Let the nannies do the feeding and the diaper changes. Lots of parents through the ages have had lots of help rearing their children including full time nannys.  Other mothers have had very large families and still managed to raise them all.  My mother-in -law had twelve as close together as possible without help of science and you can bet she didn't do all the hands on care herself!.  Nadia' will need lots of help...but she is getting that.  Her case is not really all that different from any of the other multiple birth families struggling to make it all work. 

  Call off the dogs...she doesn't need a couple of pit-bulls lying in wait. for her to make a mistake.

I agree with you that Gloria Allred should be out of the picture. Personally, I can't stand the woman; she grates on my nerves whenever I see her ANYwhere!

 

However, your statement that Nadya needs some times to relax, rest and get settled is off. The bone of contention with AIW is that she is taking TOO MUCH time to relax, rest and disconnect with her babies, putting them into the hands of untrained so-called "nannies" who can't even speak English and who have health issues with TB, for God's sake!

 

I think Nadya still thinks this is all just a game; an opportunity to get money from whomever wants to pay her for pictures, interviews, etc, and that when it comes to the actual reality of taking care of those babies, she can't be bothered. If you listened carefully to what the AIW representative said, the care of those children is being dumped on anyone who is willing to be there, regardless of their qualifications, while Nutty-Nadi goes shopping or hides in her room.

 

Nadya STILL doesn't get it, and I don't believe she ever will! Eventually, I believe the unfortunate result of her dance with fantasy is that those babies will wind up in the system, either in foster care of else adopted....which, if adopted, wouldn't be all bad. I sure don't want to see them in foster care! 

 
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March 25, 2009, 9:45 am PDT

Hello??

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I don't blame Nadya for firing the nurses. I believe they were involved in this situation for more than just helping her. I believe they too had condemned her. Dr. Phil, I saw your show after Nadya and the foundation had come to an agreement. Just as a neutral observer, the foundation founders didn't seem warm & fuzzy. I do remember thinking, wow these ladies who supposedly are here to help seem so straight faced and uncaring. It was my feeling then that Nadya shouldn't trust them. So, as crazy as she may seem, not really, because she can see that these ladies were trying to make a case to take her precious babies.

And just for the record, I'm not in support of her having these babies. I was as confused and agitated as the next tax payer. However that doesn't mean anyone has the right to come in and take her children.

IFinally, I certainly agree she needs help, but she doesn't need help from people whom already assume she is incapable.

If you think for one minute that Nutti-Nadi is capable of taking care of these babies then you haven't been paying attention!

 

You think that the  the AIW people didn't seem "warm and fuzzy"?  It's not about warm and fuzzy! It's about competence, and I think that 25+ years doing this makes them extremely competent. Believe me, they don't want to "take her precious babies"! What the heck would they do with them? This is a very serious issue, and a difficult undertaking for AIW to take care of these babies and they have very legitimate concerns about this disconnected, unrealistic, living-in-lala-land mother.

 

Nayda's problem with AIW is the fact that she doesn't like anyone telling her anything she doesn't want to hear, and doesn't like being "smacked" in the face with reality!

 

AIW sees issues that they are REQUIRED to address for the safety of these children, and Nutti-Nadi didn't like it. She'd rather have unqualified so-called nannies who have TB ....at least, she thinks, she can control them.

 

I'll give it 4 to 6 months before those babies wind up in the system! 

   

 

 
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March 25, 2009, 9:49 am PDT

03/25 Octuplets: On the Record

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I knew the AIW were not going to work out, I figured she'd fire them, I just didn't think it would be this soon.  It is all for the best.  They are not the best choice or the most honest company, and some of those ladies have a very vindictive attitude, so this is all for the best. 

I think, given some time to get organized,  her children and her will be just fine.  (She is already waking up a bit)  We should hope they stay together as a family and the nanny's along with volunteers will pull through.

"They are not the best choice or the most honest company"......and you know this HOW?

 

Have you ever had any personal contact with them? If not, don't make ridiculous statements like that.

 

She and her children will NOT be "just fine".....and time will prove that.

 
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March 27, 2009, 8:50 am PDT

03/25 Octuplets: On the Record

Quote From: grandpa17

Nadya Is in charge of her own family . I am sure there is no one working in the home with TB? And alot of nannies do not speak english and do very well with children. What is your Point in saying things like that. Leave this young women alone she will do what is right for her family. Thank you

If you think that twit will "do what's right for her family",  then you are even more out of touch with reality than she is!

 

As for the nannies having TB....yes, they do!  If you listened to what was said, you would have heard that they tested positive for this disease.

 

As for them not speaking English....well, excuse me, but these babies are fragile; it's not an ordinary situation, the caregivers have to be trained....and, if they can't speak English, how the devil do you think anyone can communicate with them well enough to train them?? 

 
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March 27, 2009, 9:12 am PDT

Thank you!

Quote From: cmdirks

I have three young children, aged 6 and younger.  I don't know what it may be like with having a teenager yet.  Maybe it will get harder as they get older.  But for now?  It is the easiest thing for me to tell them no.  Of course, they want every toy they see and we all know that's impractical.  We all say no to the young'uns.  But even with saying "Hey, we want McDonald's tonight,"  we still have to say no sometimes.  Even though they are so young, I still have a very simple explanation.  We can't afford to spend the money right now.  Daddy works and gets paid to work.  He only gets so much.  Right now we have to pay the phone bill and the light bill and we can't spend $30 on fast food tonight.  They may not fully understand all the ins and outs of it, but they accept it.  What we hope is that they continue to accept this as they grow. 

 

And feeling guilty for it helps no one.  I guess I just don't understand the mind frame of someone who would feel guilty for not spoiling their kids and so they DO spoil them.  Maybe that was one of the things I learned from my parents.  They did not teach me ONE THING about money growing up, but they sure did teach me that saying no is a part of life. 

 

If nothing else, I do hope these families learn that much.  Saying no is so easy. 

I so totally agree!  I'm so sick of these clueless parents whining about how their kids are "so spoiled"...well how do you think they got that way??

 

I raised three kids all alone, with NO child support,  and worked three jobs at a time to put a roof over their heads, food in their bellies and clothes on their backs. The way I figured it, they were lucky to get that.

We had nice Christmases, they had wonderful birthdays, and there were a few extras along the way, but they learned early that there would be no spoiling. If they wanted extra money, they worked for it. My son (who now owns his own successful contracting business) started working at age 9 shoveling snow, raking leaves, mowing lawns, and at age 14 he lied about his age to get a job washing dishes in a neighborhood Chinese restaurant. My two girls babysat for extra money, and got jobs as soon as they were able.

It didn't hurt them one bit to work for what they wanted! In fact, I truly believe that the greatest gift you can give your children is the gift of independence.....teaching them how money works and that the world does NOT owe them a living, gives them that gift.

 

By the way, the absolute best  Christmas we ever had was the year that we all made each other's gifts...no store bought gifts were allowed. It taught them so many lessons....and that was the purpose.

At the time, they were all in elementary and high school. My son made me a beautiful coffee table in woodshop, my oldest daughter made me a gorgeous cutting board, also in woodshop, and my youngest daughter made a batik window cover in art class that I use every year at Christmas...and I still have and use all of those things.  I made their gifts as well...and everyone loved everything.

 

A little more dose of reality, parents, and a WHOLE  LOT less spoiling.....before you turn your children out into the world where the rest of us have to deal with them. Please. Do us all a favor...especially them.

 
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April 20, 2009, 1:17 pm PDT

04/20 Child with a Child

Quote From: jesuschick1214

I am on the advisory board for a home for pregnant and parenting teens.  We see so many teen mothers from the ages of 13-19 that you would not even believe it.  People do not understand the growing trend of teen pregnancy in America nor do they want too.  Our goal is to give these teen mothers a place to call home while they go through a step by step Christian program that is designed to get them on their feet and teach them what they need to know about becoming the best mother that they can be.  We help them finish high school and highly encouraged a college education.  The choice to keep their child/children is one that comes with a huge amount of responsibility and we are here to help them every step of the way. 

Good for you and your agency!  God knows these ignorant kids need all the help they can get! They sure aren't getting the information and the help they need from home BEFORE they get into trouble!

 

Parents aren't willing to step up and say NO to their children!  Keep them away from the media influences as much as possible....quit plopping them in front of the TV from the time they can hold their head up, using it as a babysitter.....limit their time on computers and give them the kind of cell phone that doesn't take pictures and doesn't have texting....in other words,  PARENT your kids, know what they are up to, and, for God's sake, TALK to them, ask them questions, know their friends, be involved in their lives instead of being so self-involved and worrying about what YOU want.

 

We have a nation of kids raising themselves, and bullying their guilt-ridden clueless parents into giving them STUFF instead of love, time, attention and the kind of parenting that takes time and effort and is NOT easy!!...and the result is what you see: a huge rise in teen pregnancy. When they don't get the love, time and attention at home they will turn to the nearest hairy-legged boy who tells them what they want to hear. 

 

The media (and their peers) say it's cool.... the gullible kids believe it...and the clueless parents don't take the time or make the effort to step in between them and that garbage and get real with the kids!   

 
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April 20, 2009, 1:19 pm PDT

A QUESTION FOR MEGHANN'S PARENTS:

I have one simple question for you complaining parents of this irresponsible young woman:

 

WHO RAISED THIS MESS?

 
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August 24, 2009, 8:42 am PDT

WHAT??

I'm sorry, but if I have to beat a guy over the head and ambush him on the Dr. Phil Show to get him to marry me, I don't want him!!

 

Why are some women so darn desperate that they are willing to throw away all self-respect just to have a man...ANY man....stuck to their side. Do they not realize that when you force a guy to marry you, the marriage is pretty well doomed because, ladies: THEY DON'T WANT TO BE THERE AND WILL EVENTUALLY SLITHER AWAY ANYWAY! The fastest way to kill love is to smother it!

 

And speaking of self-respect, how do you dumb women get yourselves into a situation where you are willing to live with a guy, do his laundry, clean his house, have sex with him whenever, have his children, and way too often, financially support his dumb a$$....and then act all hurt and surprised when he avoids any committment like the plague?? Why should he buy the cow when he gets the milk free?  

 

How do you expect him to respect and honor you when you don't even respect yourself? Stop whining, and get the ring on your finger BEFORE you move in together...quit selling yourself short.

 

Like Dr. Phil has said a million times: "You teach people how to treat you."

 
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August 24, 2009, 8:52 am PDT

Thank God no kids

Quote From: ericad

I'm so glad they got married! This problem has really hit home with me. I have known my fiance since I was 12 years old and we have been friends forever. We have been together for almost 2 years and engaged for a year and a half. We got engaged 7 months after getting together. Everytime I bring up getting married he replies that he dosent see a need that were happy and together and he dosent want to ruin what we have. He says hes totally commited and he's put a ring on my finger but he wont take the next step to get married! He told me recently he dosent even know if he wants to get married. We live together and have no children and are both only 25 and neither one of us has been married before. I just dont understand why he purposed and now hes avoiding the situation. Were young and I'm not in any hurry to get married but I just want him to set a date even if it's 5 years down the line. I feel like he just dosent want to grow up. Any suggestion?

Honey, the only "smart" thing you have done in this relationship is not to have children with this man!

 

Get out, go back to school and work towards becoming financially independent so you don't HAVE to have a man in your life, but can CHOOSE one if you want to.

 

Don't get caught in that trap of feeling like you have no choices because you are undereducated or bored or don't know what else to do with yourself.....too many women go there with disastrous results....and please continue to refrain from having children at this point, for your own good and for theirs!

 

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