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February 14, 2006, 1:48 pm PST

Emotions and Childhood.....

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I heard "children are to be seen and not heard" too when I was young.  I hated that.   I felt so small.   

I always had emotions, but some emotions I did not let out and had to hide because my true feelings/sadness did not fit the mold of who I was suppose to be.  I did not acknowledge some of my true emotions and used to think of something logical to myself to distract myself from allowing my sadness or hurt to show.  Now when I feel those emotions, I am not sure what to do because I feel like I'm losing control.  I shouldn't be emotional like that.  I am sensitive and feel sympathy & love for others, but it is hard for me to acknowledge my own emotions and I will try to block.  When I can't, I feel like a floodgate is breaking and I've got to stop it.  I try to tell people when I love them or care about them or appreciate them.  When I feel used or abused or taken for granted, I have a very difficult time expressing my feelings.  I turn inward.  I am able to communicate more easily with my kids though.  Maybe I feel I have to or I have a right to or I'm expected to if I'm to be a good Mom.   I try to make sure that they know I love and care about them and that they know that whatever advice I have it's because I care so much about them.  They don't always want to hear the advice, but I don't think they mind hearing about my love and concern for them.  I have a very hard time being open with other adults.  It's even hard with my therapist.  I do feel vulnerable.  I want people to like me and I feel like if I open up, maybe they won't like me any more.  I have opened up more with a few people and sometimes I feel scared about it and still feel worried about what they think of me (and may not say).  Other times, it feels good to have someone understand me and know me beyond the superficial person I've always felt I should be.  I have had to be brave with some people and just taken a chance.  So far, I'm glad I did.  It does feel less lonely.  I still struggle with opening up, but I think I am making progress.  You do need to pick people who you think are caring and understanding and take a chance with opening up with them.  You might find that your relationship is enriched by it.   

I don't know if anything in my babbling is helpful.  It does feel good to open up here in a place where it seems protected in a way. 

Well, I can't say that I was suppose to be seen and not heard as a child as you were. In fact, I had to learn not to say everything I thought...or find a way to say it gently...I did have problems emotionally connecting, however. I was lucky to have one friend who has been my best friend since we were 4......so that helped alot.....I also had to take chances with people...I learned early that protecting myself was not going to get me where I wanted to go...It is a risk you take but the choice is not yours as to who will hurt you....we can't control others unfortunately. The choice we have to make is to love and allow others to love us...Love is a choice and Happiness is a choice...We also can choose to be a victim...I am not belittling anything that you or anyone else has been through. I sought to free myself from the vicitmization and the prison these persons had put me in...Does this makes sense? I decided...ok. God...I can't do this...I have no control...Only You have the control...You have allowed these horrible circumstances for one purpose and one purpose only...to reveal Yourself to me and through me to others. I have to look at the story of Job in the Bible. How crazy was he to remain faithful to his God? Everyone said he was nuts...How about a modern Job? Christopher Reeve? Wasn't he nuts to continue to try to be productive and not close himself off and curl up and die a quadreplegic? Remain hopeful...continue to love.....continue to care...don't let them win...don't let your spirit die! When you feel like giving up, try harder...Pick up and do it again! Get back on that horse...You have to succeed eventually! You are an inspiration to those around you...though you may not know it! Romans 8:37 "We are more that conquerors...." Remember that verse....I will be praying for you and Ragdoll!
 
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February 24, 2006, 4:09 pm PST

Me 2!

I also need to loss 100+ pounds...I did it once before I got pregnant. Now I need to do it again...Would love to have a friend....Beth
 
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March 15, 2006, 4:28 pm PST

Go to the police

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My uncle began abusing me when I was four years old.  I'll spare the specifics, because I don't want to cause a trigger for anyone, but it honestly bordered if not seriously jumped over into the category of torture.  I didn't speak a word of it until I was much older.  By the time I was 19, I was all of 90 pounds and barely functioning in life.  I was anorexic and could only eat baby food, because my digestive system was so messed up.  I wasn't sleeping, because I would have constant flashbacks.  I was literally a mess, so I decided that it was time for me to talk to someone.  I chose to talk to an adult who had been a strong part of my life for many years, but it meant driving more than an hour several times a week.  At the time, I was still living with my parents.  One day when I came home my mother backed me up against a wall and began to question.  She threatened to beat the living _____ out of me if I didn't tell her what was going on.  So, I told her, which was when she accused me of being an untrustworthy (horrible word).  It wasn't long after before she told her entire family.  Not too long after they all knew and the man who had..... , well, I started to be stalked.  It continued for quite some time, and I am very suspicious that it was him.  My mother's side of the family also disowned me at that time.  Many things have happened since then, but I've never talked to the authorities about what he did.  Though, I reported the stalking.  Today, the family threatened to take me to court for defamation of character.  Can they really do this?  My boyfriend thinks an investigation would have to be done before it would make it to court.  He suggested it's time for me to tell the police what happened.  It resulted in a huge fight.  I'm not ready to do that.  I mean, I know the statute of limitations is nearly up.  It's just, I can't hardly say the words let alone describe to a perfect stranger what was done.  I feel so ashamed, disgusted, and angry right now.  What can I do???
It is not unusual for families to turn against a victim. Mine did on me too. I have learned to live with it and simply not discuss it with them. I hate that our relationship cannot be totally honest and open but I would rather have a little of them than none. But my family is not emotionally, physically, or verbally abusive over it either. If yours is sometimes the best thing is to cut ties for awhile. Let them know that if they choose to take you to court you will be forced to defend yourself which would include going to the police and pressing charges against your uncle. I think you should do this whether they back off or not. Your uncle is sick. Pedophiles are dangerous and in my opinion...like an alcoholic....once a pedophile always a pedophile. Addiction comes in many forms. Sex being one of them and the boundaries are constantly stretched to include new sick fantasies for them. I am so sorry you were treated as you were. I can hear the pain in your message. It sucks I know. Do you believe in any kind of faith or anything? If you believe in prayer I would encourage you to not only pray but seek counseling if you haven't already. Keep a journal and find a friend who you can trust to discuss things with. I am available if you wish. Sometimes it is better to have someone in person however. Remember....you are right to be angry, you are wrong to be ashamed. It is his shame and someday he will answer for it. And you are right to be disgusted but not with yourself. With the sicko that did this to you. I would caution you not to become bitter however. The only one that would hurt is you. Seek help and a road to healing. It is there. It does exist for us. I am on it. I have found it. I will pray for you. If no one else cares. I do. Don't forget that!
 
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March 15, 2006, 4:55 pm PST

Yep...I know

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The guy I'm dating is a great guy, and I don't know how to help him with all of this.  Sometimes when we start to get close physically, I start to have a flashback... It makes him feel really guilty.  How do I help him to see that it's not anything he's doing?

I know just where you are coming from. I too had a major flashback with my boyfriend then who is now my husband. Being honest with him is the most important thing you can do for your relationship. Otherwise he will misread your actions. Think about him as a person...Is he the kind of guy who will freak out and get angry at you if you tell him you have suffered with this for so long? From your description I would say no.Explaining yourself and expressing yourself is important. Let him ask questions but let him know that the best thing he can do is let you talk it out...and encourage you in your healing. Guys have this need to fix things for us. Let him know that isn't what you want. He will have to be patient with you. Maybe now isn't the time to get intimate. Emotional intimacy can be just as fulfilling and for him he will need some snuggling. Don't feel guilty about your feelings. Once when my husband and I were making love I had to keep my eyes open and keep saying "I'm ok. I am safe with you.  You love me and I love you." Boy did that help! Sounds crazy but whatever you have to do you know....He needs to understand that sex and intimacy is a trigger for you. It would be like eating fish and hating it. It would be hard to continue to try different kinds of fishes right? I am praying for you. Good luck and God bless. Also I recommend couple counseling if he is willing and you are serious enough about each other. 

 
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March 16, 2006, 3:30 pm PST

Ok...Stop!

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He is a great guy.  He's so patient.  Sometimes, I feel like I'm so all over the place, and I hate that.  I can be enjoying intimacy one moment and having a major flashback the next moment.  There honestly doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.  I've told him about my past.  I've probably shared more with him about my past than I have anyone else (except the counsellor).  He says that he loves me, and scary enough for me as it is, I believe it.  He says when I'm read he wants to ask me to marry him, but he understands that I'm not ready yet.... I don't think I could have asked for a better man in my life... But, I feel like I'm dragging him through the dirt....
You are NOT dragging him through the dirt. It is his choice to love you remember? I am sure if you tell him all you have told me he will tell you the same thing. I know how scarey it is. I can't do anything to help you with that. This is your battle. Only you can win it. Maybe that sounds harsh but its true. It would not matter who you were with, it would be the same. Right? So you have 2 choices. You can go through it totally alone or you can allow this man to be there with you. Helping you in the only way he knows how. He sees so much in you that you don't see. You know what my husband said about me? He called me inspirational! Can you believe it?! And I will be willing to bet this guy feels the same about you. Just remember that all of those feelings, all the fear and anger is not directed at him. He needs to understand you are in a survival mode right now. You are like a cancer patient fighting for your life. "Chemo"therapy sucks because sometimes you feel worse while you are going through it, but it is the therapy that is helping heal you. I am still praying for you and him.  God has a plan for your life. I believe part of the plan for my life is that I am able to help others like me. Maybe that is what He wants for you too...Only He knows. One of the major questions I had to ask was why? Why would He allow such a horrible thing to happen to me? I have my answer. Have you found yours?
 
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March 16, 2006, 4:09 pm PST

You are angry because you should be!

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I believe in a particular faith.  I'm Protestant.  It helps me more than anything in all honesty.  I have gone to counselling in the past... Quite a few people have told me it's probably time to go back.  Lately, I've just been writing a lot of poetry to get it out... that helps a lot too.  I still feel very ashamed and dirty though.  I honestly can't seem to shake it..., except by scrubbing my skin -- not cleaning, scrubbing.  I won't let myself do that anymore, because I think it really turned into a form of self-destruction, and I'm trying to rebuild not tear down.  I guess I'm really rambling right about now.  I don't think I'm bitter, by I am very angry at my uncle, at my family for taking his side, at myself for not stopping him.... Come to think of it, I'm really dealing with a lot of anger issues... Sometimes, I feel like I'm boiling inside.  It's new.  I never used to feel angry.  Why now?
You have every right to be angry. God sure as hell is! Sorry I hope my cursing doesn't offend you but sometimes it gets the point across. I am glad you have your faith. Protestant or otherwise. I was also raised Protestant. Yes, it might be time to go back to therapy. Only you can really decide that. I did therapy in small shots too. It was too hard to do it all at once. I also write poetry and it does help. I know about the shame and feeling dirty. The shame is not yours...the dirtiness is not yours. You had your innocence and childhood ripped away in a moment. Sucks! Still makes me angry to think of it but I have been able to first accept that anger and claim a right to it, and then move on from there. I am sorry to say that it never truly goes away. I always hated to think I was branded. Like I wore it on my forehead. Excuse me abused child coming through! Truly it is not like that for others. What they see is "Wow! Look at what she has been through and look how far she has come!" I  am glad you have stopped hurting yourself. But if you think of doing it again remember this verse and say it to yourself. In John 15:3 Jesus says "You are already clean because of the the word I have spoken to you." You are clean on the inside. When you wash yourself gently you are clean on the outside. You are clean.  Remember that feelings can be deceptive sometimes. What we feel isn't always what is real. If feels real. But if can be distorted. Your anger is boiling! You need to pour it out on a pillow, on paper, somewhere safe. Somewhere where you can express it in anyway you feel you need to. But then you need to release it. Holding on to it can destroy you. At some point when you are ready you can take a deep breath and move on. That may be awhile but it will come. One day you will see that you are not that little girl anymore and that you know how to protect her all by yourself. A part of her will always be with you. You need her in a way. You don't have any other childhood to pull from. But you can start to recreate a childhood if you like. I love to play. It is ok to have fun and feel safe doing it. You will be ok. Keep on keeping on and don't give up ever. Don't let them win!
 
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March 16, 2006, 4:16 pm PST

Hey! How ya doing?

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I had a very difficult period and did feel like giving up, but didn't.  Things are much brighter now.  I hope to keep moving forward and searching for better things for myself.  I also want so much to help anyone I can along the way.  No one should have to deal with this stuff.  Thanks for your encouragement. 
Hey! How is it going? I am doing well at the moment. I have been writing alot and reading, and singing. I love music and a world of emotions can be expressed through it. Are you doing ok? You should know you are such an inspiration to me. I read your posts to others and they help me too. Keep on keeping on! God bless! I am praying for you!
 
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March 16, 2006, 4:25 pm PST

How are you?

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I have the same trust issues. They nearly ruined my marriage but fortuanately for me my hubby is determined to stick with come what may till death do us part. Recently, he recommited his love to me. Persoanlly, I do not think this is crazy. I feel that it is our own natural tendancy to want to avoid pain, it is natural to want to protect yourself. Sometimes I get angry becaue I want to go back in time and defend the helpless little girl that I was and to put people in thier place, to fight to my own death if neccessary.  It is that feeling that I will not allow myself to ever be a victum again. It gets worse when at times I do still feel like a victum, even helpless like the little girl I was. I still cannont understand why this happened and honestly I am not sure I want to . I cannot relate to anyone who could do such a thing to a person then blame the victum. Worse how family can cover it up pretend it didn't happen and blame the victum.  I still have issues due to constant attacks from family members. The anger just rises up in me sometimes. But being able to recognize my issues allows me to plan , to think things through, to prepare myself to react in a way that will not leave me the victum or lash out to someone who does or does not dersrve it.  At least maby react in a non distructive way. One trigger is being attacked for my parenting skills by someone who is clueless. I have worked extensively with that. I know I am a darn good mother.  Maby things don't  always work out as I plan but I tell myself that that is ok because I am alive, growing and learning.  Since you reconginze the issue the good news is that you can work on it. You are not alone I constantly need reassurance and it wears me out as well as those around me. I am working on building self confidence and overcoming insecurity. You know it is not easy. Journaling has helped me. At frist writing things down was hard. I did not want anyone to find it and read it. Thankfully, there are online diaries like the ones here. They can be made private or public. You can delete or keep it to read and reflect on later. I have one word of caution. If you use Dr P's diary be sure and copy to paste after you edit and before you post your entlry because I have had problems with everything I type being deleted somehow. This way I can simply paste if I have a problem then post it.
Hey! How are you doing? I have been out of the loop for awhile. I am doing well. I want to let you know I am inspired by you. You have come so far it seems to me. Keep it up! Thanks for all your help! I am praying for you as always!
 
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March 16, 2006, 5:05 pm PST

P.S.

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I believe in a particular faith.  I'm Protestant.  It helps me more than anything in all honesty.  I have gone to counselling in the past... Quite a few people have told me it's probably time to go back.  Lately, I've just been writing a lot of poetry to get it out... that helps a lot too.  I still feel very ashamed and dirty though.  I honestly can't seem to shake it..., except by scrubbing my skin -- not cleaning, scrubbing.  I won't let myself do that anymore, because I think it really turned into a form of self-destruction, and I'm trying to rebuild not tear down.  I guess I'm really rambling right about now.  I don't think I'm bitter, by I am very angry at my uncle, at my family for taking his side, at myself for not stopping him.... Come to think of it, I'm really dealing with a lot of anger issues... Sometimes, I feel like I'm boiling inside.  It's new.  I never used to feel angry.  Why now?

You wouldn't be able to stop him if you were not supported. Remember that kids aren't dumb. I never told my parents because I knew they wouldn't help me. You were A CHILD! Children are supposed to be protected not expected to defend themselves against an adult. I don't care if you were 6 or 16...you were a child.....your parents failed you. That was so hard for me to accept but my parents failed me. They didn't know what to do so they did nothing. I am convinced that they knew. There were too many signs to make them think otherwise. They decided to turn away and let it go. They were wrong. They failed me and they will answer for it someday. I don't say that out of hate or malice...it is simply the truth. We will all answer for our actions one day good or bad. But I know that because I am His, they will be all wiped away. And I know that  I will do everything possible to protect my daughter but if she has to go through this one day, I will do things very differently. VERY differently! My baby is almost 4. She is my heart. She knows because I tell her that all people are not very nice. That there are BAD PEOPLE and that sometimes they can be like monsters. But she also knows that her Daddy and I are her protectors and that no matter what, even if she must tell on one of us that we would both protect her from whatever. That we have her back. We do not tell her what she can't handle. Only what she can understand and that she must never go to or near someone even someone she knows without our permission. And we do not let ourselves be fooled by anyone. I had a incident a couple of summers ago where we took her swimming at the pool in our apartment complex we were living in at the time. I noticed a man watching her. I always make it a habit of making eye contact with anyone who watches her. It is my way of saying I see you and now you see me seeing you. I do not back down and if they question me I tell them I am watching out for my child. No one has ever questioned me however. But this guy never saw me. He only stared at her. She was 2, and admittedly adorable but HEY! What is so mezmerizing about a 2 year old girt mister?!!!! So I told my husband what I was witnessing and he began to watch him. She was playing with a beach ball. She was throwing it to her Daddy in the pool and he tried to get her to throw it to him. He said "She is beautiful! Wait until she is 16!" I said thank you and continued to watch hoping I wasn't witnessing what I was. Then when he said it again I said "But she's not!" and gave him the Mommy look. He backed off. Got out of the pool and reclined in a pool chair as he continued to watch her. So I told my husband let's go. We  left. Careful to make sure he wasn't following. I got on line to look at the Sex Offender Registry, and THERE HE WAS! Sure enough! We called the front office and to see if he lived in the complex. #1 If a  known sex offender moves into your area or your complex, they are required by law to let you know.  #2 The complex said they do not accept known sex offenders in the complex. So he was there without anyone's knowledge. Complex pools are not for the public at large and we all had to have passes so, the office started checking. What they should have been doing already! And we made copies of his face and record and posted them everywhere, and handed them out to everyone we could with the permission of the complex. We never saw him or heard anything about him again, until we moved and out of curiosity I wanted to see what had happened to him. He must have been caught because he is now in a prison rehabilitaiton facility. So see.....it was my job to protect my daughter...and my husbands job. I feel because I what I have been through I was able to recognize the signs in that man that were twisted. I've met him before. 3 times. You are NOT responsible. Your responsiblities lie in healing and helping others and you are doing that. Stop beating yourself up! Forgive yourself. For what? For whatever you imagine you did. The lies you have been told and are believing! YOU ARE NOT TO BLAME! IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT! I will pray that God will show you that He doesn't hold you responsible and you shouldn't hold yourself responsible either. Allow blame to fall on the shoulders of those that it belongs to. If you have to sit down and write out how each person was to blame starting with your offender and continuing to your mom and other family members. You will see that the blame doesn't even fall  in your court. 

 
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March 16, 2006, 5:28 pm PST

It's not usually very pretty...

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I have just sent an email to my brother, in reply to his nasty one, outlining the BIG secret, Just my first memory, I don't know how graphic I can get, and the last memory. ' 

  

He is the golden child of the family, I the black sheep. I hate that he always provokes me and lets the rest of my family think it is all my fault with this conflict. So I did it. I now am really thinking I shouldn't have, it will just cause major fallout.  

  

What have I done?  

Has anyone broken silence to their abuser and what happened next? 

Get ready for the firestorm 'cause you just opened a BIG can of worms! It is so funny that you use the word golden child. I was the golden child until I opened my big mouth! I don't regret it. The Bible says "The truth shall set you free."  (John 8:33)and it shall. Who knows? Maybe your brother is dealing with his own demons. I never got the chance to confront any of my abusers. They were old and died before I was old enough, and  the one that was younger lives so far away I probably will never see him again until Jesus comes. I will pray that God will show you how to heal from this. That your brother will see his sin and repent and that you will find peace. God bless!   
 

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