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November 9, 2005, 2:17 pm PST

11/09 Next Generation of Moochers

Just my 2 cents - I am a 21 year old male that lives at home with my parents yet, my girlfriend also resides with us too.. we have a large 5 bedroom house, so we all have plenty of room.  My girlfriend and I both have jobs where we make more than our parents, but my parents also have jobs where they make plenty of money.  We do not pay rent, but it has been offered to my parents.  I do not feel that we are mooching in any way, we do not receive any money from my parents, nor eat thier food.  Our reasoning for not moving out is : why pay rent for an apt when we have to move out.  We are currently paying off 3 brand new vehicles, then we will start saving for a house.  My parents and I both do not agree with "renting"  If I'm going to be paying to live somewhere, it's going to be a house that I own.. if any of this makes sence...
 
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November 9, 2005, 4:03 pm PST

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 Once again - the 21 year old here.. Just to clarify, I am just living at home until I get my bills paid off, then plan on moving out to a new house.  Its much easier to live at home while making $900/mo of vehicle and insurance payments, plus 80 for health insurance, and about $150 a month for gas...  its just a lot easier to be living at home for free until I can get the cars paid off, and buy a new house...living at home lets me put a couple hundred in savings a month, plus extra for movies, food and entertainment and such..
 
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November 9, 2005, 4:21 pm PST

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After reading more postings, if my parents would kick me out right now, I'm not sure what I would do.  I do spend money stupidly, but have never had to have my parents pay a bill of mine (since i was 16) I make about 40K a year, which is why I will pay my vehicles off this winter, and hopefully move out in summer... But if they were to kick me out now, I don't think I could foot my car payment and a $2000 house payment... I think its smart for me to stay at home until my toys are paid off...
 
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November 9, 2005, 4:47 pm PST

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Quote From: sassy317

Don't you think that your parents deserve a break as well? They have and are still paying your way. They pay for the roof over your head...heat..water..and so on. Us parents didn't take you kids/adult children to raise forever. Sorry just how I feel.
 I agree to a point.. Yes they pay for the house, and heat.. and I don't use water at home, I haven't showered away from work for the last year, since I work 6-7 days a week.... But the way I see it also, is that wether I was there or not, they would have to pay the house payment and heat payment... and when I am home I'm sleeping most of the time, so it's not like im a neusance around the house.
 
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November 10, 2005, 5:24 am PST

11/09 Next Generation of Moochers

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so basically you are at home living off your parents so you can have your toys and entertainment, You are 21, GROW UP! the least you can do is pay for the roof over your head like mature adults do. If you can afford cars and entertainment then you can afford to pay some rent! It's one thing to be working to get on your feet but your using your parents to have the luxuries. Do you help around the house and cook your own food and do your own laundry and wash your own dishes, and clean your own room. I sure the heck hope so. I sure hope you don't expect your parents to take care of you. I am assuming that you work since you have luxuries to pay for, ever consider getting two jobs and/ or getting rid of a vehicle and living within your means, yep, you are a moocher.
 Im a moocher.. go figure.. 1st thing, yes, I do buy my own food, and dishes get done whenever the dish washer is full.. yes I have a job, why would I get a 2nd job when I work 1 full time job 6-7 days a week...  And look at it this way once.. I have friends that live on thier own.. they dont have a dime to thier name becuase it's thrown away at rent (something they will never own) kind of like leasing a car - pointless.  As I said before, I plan on moving out in spring, by then having enough to buy a new house. , Sure, I put over 1K away a month into my savings, but thats for a down payment on a house - again, why waste 700 of that on rent.  "Getting rid of a vehicle"  I have a car and a bike.. aka my toys.  someone said to get a used car - nobody in my family has ever had a used car, so I'm not about to be the first one.. And no, I dont think I'm entitled to a nice house as someone else said, the 2K payment is what my significant other and I could afford after a down payment on a house... not what I'm "entitled" to, but I'm not going to start off with a cheap, old house that Im going to have to fix up.. And I have offered rent, and  my parents refused.. They dont even want me to leave in spring when I go for a house..
 
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November 10, 2005, 12:14 pm PST

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This sounds like your the 2nd generation of spoiled!  NO ONE EVER had a used car!  You and your significant other can afford $2K a month house payment?  Let me tell you from 55 yrs of experience from the real world!  Most of the boomers (your parents age) were glad to have a nice USED car to drive until we got a little established in the world.  New cars then were $2K, houses 2 story were around $65K , groceries $35 a week!  Our parents were not enablers like the parents of today.  We had to get it like they did, work hard for it.   

  

But ok, so you can afford $2K a month for a home.  Have you thought WHAT IF one of you get disabled?  Do you know how that affects your monthly income?  WHAT if you have a child that needs constant care cause of an illness?  What if the cost of living skyrockets?  You do seem to have a saving mind, which is good.  Why not use it to your advantage.  Get a good used car that MIGHT cost you $220 a month, and put that EXTRA $200 that it would cost you for a new car in the bank for UNEXPECTED expenses?  And you should be directed, IF YOU HAVE A GOOD REALTOR (I am a retired realtor) that you might be able to afford $2k a month....but why not something that is $1K a month or less ($1k a month even frightens me) and there for have money back for the UNEXPECTED that comes with home ownership, new roof needed, furnance going out. 

  

Young people today want it all NOW!  The average Baby Boomer had to work 20 yrs to get IT ALL.  I am 55 yrs old and just now have my home and 2 new cars paid for!  Took me 25 yrs.  I am comfortable, can help my family when they need it , and didn't overextend myself to do it!  Put your expectations lower and you won't face the realization of respossessions.  FOOTNOTE:  Financial strain always puts stain on relationships!  And if you don't heed some of the advise given you, then bless you with what you will be dealing with with your children!      

 I don't think my parents are the boomer generation only being 39 and 41.. maybe I'm wrong? Not sure how far back that generation goes.  But the 2K house payment was a top payment figure.. the average new house in this area goes for about 250K,. a little more if on the river banks..I dont really think about getting disabled too much, I suppose it should be something I figure into my life ahead of me.  I do have some of the best insurance around, but I know even that runs out after a while..  As I said before, I have friends that are on thier own, with brand new cars, not having any extra money for saving or spending.  I am grateful that my parents have allowed me to stay at home until I get my vehicles paid off, again by spring, and then be able to move out... but I wouldn't call myself a "moocher"
 
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November 11, 2005, 7:42 am PST

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 voyager101 : I know how my parents started out, and they don't want me to have to start out like they did..and if you think I have no clue about life, think again.. I've been thru more crap than most adults have..I know about life.  Yeah, I guess I'm a moocher, because my parents are letting me get a better head start than a lot of other people by letting me stay at thier house, and save up.  I'd rather be a moocher and be able to pay my way comfortably when I move out , than be kicked out at 18, not have crap, and have to live paycheck to paycheck. SO.. what does this make my girlfriend.. is she a mooch too because she's been living with me and my parents since she was 16... and doesnt pay rent.?
 
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November 11, 2005, 1:26 pm PST

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 philfan66 - your right, if they would kick me out, I would find a place to live and I would have to foot it without putting a down payment on a house....

voyager101 - "I hope you never lose your job or become injured or anything that would cause you to have to live oh so uncomfortably paycheck to paycheck, or lose your house, etc.  You won't have the experience to handle it."  <-- your right too, but I'm thinking not a whole lot of people are really prepared for something that dramatic to happen...(lose job, house, etc..) even if they were on thier own when they were very young. 
 
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November 12, 2005, 2:18 pm PST

wow..

 +1 to Tammyo1973's response.....
 
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November 16, 2005, 4:30 pm PST

11/09 Next Generation of Moochers

Quote From: tammyo1973

Just wondering what the +1 means? 

  

I read some of your earlier posts and I think you are smart in the way you are handling yourself. 

  

Are you and your girlfriend at this time putting some of your money away for the house? I know you said your paying your cars off, but are you putting extra (possibly the money you would give your folks for rent ) away as savings for a downpayment? 

  

I lived with my brother and boyfriend until we got things settled but moved into an apartment for one year before buying a house. It sucked to be honest with you but at the time it was a school issue for my daughter so thats why we moved. Our first house we lived in for 3-5 years and then sold it and bought a newer home. My reccomendation, based on what our home inspector said was to buy a 2-3 year old house, that way the landscaping at all that stuff is done, but the house has settled and if anything needs to be done that is covered under builders warranty it is still good. Just something to think of. Our house is perfect. We have a 2000 suare foot home, 3 car garage for my hubbys toys. and four bedrooms finished backyard with cement patio, and finished basement. Had we done allt his ourselves with a brand new house, we wouldn't have gottne the third garage or the patio or the landscaping etc. 

  

  

I wish you luck 

Tam 

+1 means that I agree with what your response was... and yes we are both putting away for a downpayment on a house.. hopefully to have 25-30K by spring..  To get into details I guess.. I pay all my bills, then we each put about 1000 - 1500 a month into the savings for a down pmt.  We've been doing that for a while.  And thats what I mean when I said buy a new house.. one thats 1-2 or 3 years old.. but thats good advice about the settling in and stuff with the warranty - thanks.
 

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