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November 10, 2005, 7:57 pm PST

Just another cheated on Wife

Well, I too have recently found out my husband of nearly 20 years was cheating on me.  I thinkg I must have deliberately blinded myself to his infidelity.  Our marriage has always been a bit fiery.  We haven't had the best of intimate lives in over 6 years.  We have 2 children (boy 19, girl 12), and an daughter-in-law to be (who also happend to be carrying my 1st grandchild).  I found out on September 23rd the truth of his infidelity, through his email account.  I had been very curious for about a week before.  His emails were very devastating.  He had even written a "contract" for them to meet every other Monday morning where they would spend time together enjoying mutual friendship, passion, pleasure and more.  His last email to her said "lets get married".  Yes, he wasn't actually proposing, but the message was clear.  It turns out that the "affair" has been going on for about a year, with a woman that he has known for about 2.  He sold her a car for her daughter, and from then on it began.  At first he said it was friendship, then he started having oral sex with her.  He swears it never went farther, even his emails state that.  Then he says it went back to being just friends and him helping her with her studies.  By the way, she is married with 2 teenagers as well, her husband is military.   I so wanted to kick him out on the day I confronted him.  He cried and said he wanted to save our marriage.  He had been with her that very evening, supposedly breaking it off with her.  He says it is over, he promised to never contact her again.  But just today I found her number on his cell phone.  I also found a voicemail from her stating that she had missed his call and asking him to call her back, then closed the message by saying "I Love You".  I am sure many of you on this board can imagine my thoughts and feelings at discovering this.  The schmuck hd let our son's fiance borrow his cellphone for job hunting purposes, and didn't even thing to clear out his evidence.  Man, I really don't know what to do.  We have been going to counselling, with a pastor that I trust implicitly, for over a month now.  As a matter of fact, we were supposed to go to a session tonight.  Unfortunately our pastor couldn't make it, so we went to the mall with the kids instead.  The other day he asked me how committed I was to making this work (I had been having a real bad week where everything he did was making me mad), I told him if I wasn't he wouldn't still be in the house.  Our 20th anniversary was last Wednesday.  I didn't acknowledge it at all, he was very upset about that.  I just didn't know how to, or whether I even wanted to, acknowledge it.  I realized 2 days ago that was the reason for my bad week.  But, now I find myself ready to ask him the same question, seeing as how he is still in contact with this woman.   

Thanks for letting me vent.  Any advise is welcome 

 
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November 10, 2005, 8:07 pm PST

Honesty is only in the eyes of the beholder

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Reading the posts have made me really think.  Just last weekend I got so mad at my husband because he plays golf  ALOT and I feel ignored.  I am expecting our first child and I know that our alone time is on the downward spiral. 

My husband is as honest as can be, if he is going to be late coming home from work he calls, when he goes out with friends he is always where he says he is going to be,  he has a long commute everyday, so he always emails me from work so I know he got there safely. 

I guess I shouldn't complain too much about being a "golf widow" when I see what some of you ladies have to live with. 

That is what I used to think.  My husband always called me when he was going to be "late".  Turns out he was with her instead.  Boy was I stupid.  Not saying you are and he is, but just to let you know.  Several of my husbands' "golf" dates were with her as well.  Not only that, but he always told me that the boss was paying, so I wouldn' bother to look for expenses.  He had his own checking account and credit card.
 
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November 13, 2005, 7:09 pm PST

Continued Contact

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Boy does it sound like we're married to the same kind of person (for the most part).  I've had several years to deal with this, but it still keeps coming up and slapping me in the face.  Each time I think she's gone away and I can move on, I find that she's still in the picture.  I think I read in a previous quote from you that your husband doesn't like for you to "harp" on it.  Well, ditto - in those exact words.  He doesn't want to talk about it, nor does he want to hear about it.  He says whenever I bring it up, it "pushes him away from me".  I tell him he's already pushed me.  I just don't understand why he insists on continuing to talk to her.  Even if nothing is going on, he should have NOTHING to do with her.  His traveling lately has been the best for me right now.  It gives me that space away from him to figure myself out.   He loves our children, but he doesn't help much with any of the day to day stuff.  EVERYTHING is my responsibility.  He brings home the money - everything else is my job.  That's why I think I'm beginning to lose it.  If that's the way this marriage is going to continue, then I'll have to do it from my own home without him.  Anyway, thanks for listening.  If you want to talk more off the board, let me know and I'll make my email available for you to get.  Take care.  We will get through this.  Women are much stronger and can make things work much better than most men.   (Except Dr. Phil, of course!  :-)  )
Hello and let me say, I am going through the exact same thing as well.  I just found out about my husband's affair September 23rd.  It hasn't been 2 months and he already expects me to not discuss the "issue" any more.  However, just like yours, mine has still been in contact with his "woman".  It doesn't matter to me that he says it was for business purposes only.  My husband sells cars for a living.  He sold a car to this woman for one of her teenagers.  From then on he started talking to her via his cell, then via Yahoo Messenger.  Then they started meeting personally.  They would have dinner together in his car, or other places.  They also had oral relations in their vehicles.  This lasted for about a year and a half.  Supposedly he had ended the relationship the day I found out.  But, just 4 days ago she called him and he didn't tell me about it.  I found out quite by accident, because he was stupid enough to let my daughter-in-law to be borrow his personal cell phone.  There was a voice mail from her in which she told him she was sorry she missed his call and for him to call her back, and closed the message with "Love You".  Devastation is close to what I felt upon listening to that message.  Of course I confonted him about it that very evening and we argued, but we stuck it out until we could talk calmly and discuss it rationally.  I want to believe that he is not still contacting her and that this was just some fluke.  What hurts even more is knowing the promise he made me not to contact her again, he still called her back.   I told him that I was going to contact her and tell her that if she called him again I would contact her husband and tell him about the whole affair.  He later begged me not to, because she has threatened him before that if he ever told her husband, she would have no problem having her family members take care of him.  Could just be bunch of bunk, to protect his little lover (not so litte-matter of fact more overweight than I am), but I can't take that risk with my kids lives.  I did take his cell phone and if that TWIT calls that cell again, I will call her.  I know where she works, I just don't know her last name or where she lives.  I do know that he has her husband's cell phone number somewhere.  As vindictive as he says that she is, I believe I can match her.  I just don't want my children to pay for my vindictiveness.  How else can I let her know that she needs to stay away from my husband?  By the way, the same night I heard that voice mail on his cell is the same night this show was aired on my cable channel.  That was completely ironic, wasn't it?
 
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November 13, 2005, 7:28 pm PST

Good Advise Seconded

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 I've been reading the postings and it seems there are so many common threads here. I myself am in the same situation as most of you. I've been cheated on (after 20 years and two kids) and i need to move on one way or another. It's fresh so the emotions change over the course of each day.

First off, let me remind you that conflict in yourself is natural. Do I take him/her back? If I do can I trust him/her again? I think the best way to do this is not to commit to anything in the beginning. You need time to reflect and see what's best. I have told my husband that although we are still married on paper, I am no longer married to him in spirit. It is now a daily contract. If I feel that I can commit to the marriage then I tell him, today we are married. If not, or I know I'm feeling hurt or resentful, then today we are divorced. I am free to do what I want with my life and exercise my options. If I find over a period of time that I have more divorced days than married, or vice versa  I will know what is right for me.

Secondly, the cheaters don't want to come back to a life of being reminded that they are wrong every time there is an arguement thereafter. Especially those who do try to make amends are are willing to change for you. There is no use is squeezing their bxlls and ruining their existence or our own. I don't want to live that kind of life, THAT BEING SAID I will not live a life of being blamed. If i were sexier or more fun loving or didn't have bladder problems, then wouldn't have cheated on me. Those are all part of the lies that the cheaters impart on you because it helps them justify their behavior. Men justify by blaming it on male hormones or you. Usually, both. The fact that Halle Berry's husband cheated on her shows that beauty has nothing to do with a cheating mate. This is THEIR PROBLEM.  They knowi t's wrong and destructive.

Understand that a man (or woman) who married you loves you for your qualities and your abilities to love and be understanding. Harmful people seek out innocents by nature. So be true to yourself, if you still want to give it a shot, do it, but protect yourself!

If you want to try to work it out:
  • Seek counseling for both of you. Together and separately. If you can't afford it find ways to cut back, this is very important to make the significant changes you need to move forward.
  • Let go of constant blaming/distrust issues. If you can't, then let him/her go. You deserve a life as well. One without all this constant heartache.
  • Don't let him/her back in until you see the changes and the commitment are there and you are satisfied with them.
  • Make yourself a plan -write it down. What I am willing to accept from this person and what I am not willing to accept from this person and stick to it.  For instance, I am not willing to accept any more cheating. One more and I'm gone... or I will do this as long as I feel that I can trust you. When I start feeling I don't trust you anymore, I'm gone. This is last chance. Let him/her know it.
  • Be nice to yourself. If this happened to your daughter or sister how would you react? Would you tell them to get out? Stay? Make yourself a role model to the other women who love you.
  • Be strong life can be great if you give help youself first.

You have written exactly what my Pastor, and even my Family Doctor has told/suggested to me.  I find that you saying this reinforces it.  My husband and I are seeking counseling from  a Pastor friend of the family.  We have a very long way to go, mostly because I think my husband is still in denial about the true extent and nature of his affair.  He is always making statements to try to minimize his sexual relationship with her.  What he still doesn't seem to get it that is isn't the sex that is tearing me up so much.  It is the intimate relationship with her.  The feelings of Love that he professed for her, the statements that he would rather be with her than with me.  That he would spend time and money with and on her that he should have spent with and on me and the kids.  I have had him get tested for diseases and those have come back clean.  But, that doesn't mean I am ready to trust him with my heart or body just yet.  I know that I will eventually have to forgive him, but I have not reached that in my recovery.  Will I ever be able to, that is the true question?  There are days when I can see that future, but there are just as many days when I can't.  Letting this wall down again will truly be the most risky move.  But I at least have some concrete ideas of how to go about recovering and rebuilding.  Thanks! 
 

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