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November 14, 2005, 5:05 pm PST

11/17 The Search for Natalee

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Dr. Phil, 

  

I am giving you this information in hopes it may help you in the investigation for Natalee Holloway and Amy Bradley.  Or any other female taken and placed in the sex slave market/trafficking. 

  

A young man I have spoken to, from Aruba, told me that it is very easy to get into Venezuela from Aruba by boat without anyone knowing.  Also, that all you have to do is pay someone off to get into Venezuela without question.  Can get ID and Passports in the same manner.  He has friends that help him get into Venezuela all the time.  They go their to party, fish or what ever. He said that Natalee is no longer on the island of Aruba and claims she would be in Venezuela and probably sold there.  It sounded like to me he was saying she went there on her own and got into trouble.  But then again, reading between the lines, she may of been taken there and sold.  He get's a little upset when we talk about Natalee Holloway as the tension in Aruba with American's right now is thick. 

  

Also, someone else I talk with, from Aruba, stated that if Natalee Holloway was taken to South America, the only place they can truly take her and hide her without ever being found would be Paraguay.  I asked how was that, and the comment in reply was that, "it is where all organized criminals and Nazi's go to hide and are never found".  Then that person left shortly after stateing this to me in a private message.  I talk with this person often and find the person legit.  This person lives and works on Aruba with law officials it seems from the way this person talks. 

  

I tell you this because it may be another venue to look for Natalee Holloway.  I have a gut feeling Natalee was taken out of Aruba and in South America very deep in the forest where most people don't dare to go. 

this REALLY MAKES FOR A NICE STORY, EVEN A MAKE FOR TV MOVIE. 

  

IN REGARDS TO YOUNG WOMEN BEING FORCED INTO THE SEX TRADE AND SOLD AS SLAVES HERE IN ARUBA IS COMPLETELY LUDICROUS.  There are so many beautiful Latin American ladies and young girls that would do anything to get off the streets from mostly Colombia and get the Visa necessary to work as a legal prostitute here on the island for 3 months.  In the ABC islands and the rest of the Dutch Kingdom and Holland, and quite a few states in the US this is legal.  Here on the island the rules are a little more strict than mainland Holland, but you need to pass all the necessary exams and if selected for a Visa and this 3 months permit you are only permitted to work in a specific Red District Bar which all of them are at one end of the island by the ex Exxon Refinery, now a Valera one, .  These ladies are checked every week by the doctors and need to leave the island in 3 mo. when their permits expire. 

  

Now to say that Nathalee was abducted in Aruba and be sold into sex trade is not true.   It is my personal believe that the Dutch boy and the tree Surinamese brothers are responsible for her being missing.  But in any case the sex trade is very much regulated and very  sought after by LA girls mostly Colombians and Venezuelans,    .  Now if you open any yellow pages in the US you will see many massage parlors with drug addicts prostituting and spreading VD's UN regulated. 

  

That is why I say the comment by Mr. Sherlock 007 here will make for a good story, which he will find right in his back yard. 

  

Dr. Phil please be objective in your pursuit of  Nathalee and or ratings.  I hope, and everyone in Aruba wants this case to be solved.  You do not need to destroy a whole island nation doing that. 

It is not fair for anyone involved or not. 

 
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November 16, 2005, 7:33 am PST

11/17 The Search for Natalee

Quote From: juliet2861

Natalee Holloway is not the only one that dissapeard on this island, Amy Bradly did too.  I've been to Aruba and really have nothing against it.  People may be upset because it's run differen't then the U.S.  and may blame Aruba.  There are a few things that should have probably been done differently and that's probably one thing that angers people.  If it was one of the safest places on earth people wouldn't be dissapearing off the island.  When you travel to Aruba that's definetly not what they tell ya.  You can easily be takin off that island for whatever reason expecially at that age.  It's not only Aruba, you could dissapear in Jamaica or any island i'm sure for that matter.  If someone wanted you that bad nothing supprises me anymore.  I just think someone started looking into the wrong things when they started. 

PEOPLE ARE DISSAPEARING ËVERYDAY"IN THE UNITED STATES AND LITTLE KIDS ARE BEING RAPED AND MURDERED EVERY DAY, SHOULD WE BOYCOTT THE U.S. TOO? 

 

PLEASE DON'T BE SUCH HYPOCRITES!!!!! 

 
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November 18, 2005, 2:00 pm PST

11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

Quote From: hope1434

 Hi everyone
Hi Dr. Phil

After reading everyones comment I only felt saddness. Saddness that people are pointing fingers at each other. or deciding that every Aruban person is bad. Honestly I feel we always have to remind ourself that is not true. not all aruban people are bad. And I feel boycott is not the answer .

I do not appreciate and do not approve the human traffic inour society. and I agree we need to fight it. But do not forget certain countries have it . They are suviving with it because they have no better knowledge and I believe it is easy money for them.  I do believe all of them involved should be punished but  that is each countries responsiblity.

However every minutes around the world children are going missing. I even heard that one time 2 children went missing in Japan while visiting the Disney world. LAter they found out that their were killed and their organs were donated.  I am not surprised.  I believe there is many things that the media is not covering . Each coountry reports what they want  the people to know.

I grew up in three differnt countries and I learned to appreciate each of their culture. and believes.
I just feel that we should not judge every arubian people because the governtment is not helping.
We should  always remember there are good and bad people...

I will keep praying for each family to find their daughter and I do hope those who did take them that they will release their daughter because I believe a mother does not  need to go through the pain of loosing a child.

Any mother loosing a child is something painful and I will keep praying.

To everyone in this thread please lets try to find a resolution.. maybe we should ask President Bush to  get  involved. If not  ask Jeb Bush maybe he can help the parents.
Yes! Let's make Aruba another Iraq. WHY DON'T YOU ASK WHO THE REAL EVIL DOERS ARE?
 
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November 18, 2005, 2:18 pm PST

11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

Quote From: juliet2861

Natalee Holloway is not the only one that dissapeard on this island, Amy Bradly did too.  I've been to Aruba and really have nothing against it.  People may be upset because it's run differen't then the U.S.  and may blame Aruba.  There are a few things that should have probably been done differently and that's probably one thing that angers people.  If it was one of the safest places on earth people wouldn't be dissapearing off the island.  When you travel to Aruba that's definetly not what they tell ya.  You can easily be takin off that island for whatever reason expecially at that age.  It's not only Aruba, you could dissapear in Jamaica or any island i'm sure for that matter.  If someone wanted you that bad nothing supprises me anymore.  I just think someone started looking into the wrong things when they started. 

Amy was lost at Sea, she was in her balcony after a  hard nite drinking with her brother. I heard that the people in the cabins next to them heard arguments.  The main suspect is a crew member.  Carlos & Charlies did not exidt 7 years ago.  Not that it matter because she was lost at sea. maybe they should focus thier investigation on her brother too. 

  

In any case we all hope this mistery is resolved, both the Holloway and Bradley case.  

  

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November 18, 2005, 2:18 pm PST

11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

Quote From: juliet2861

Natalee Holloway is not the only one that dissapeard on this island, Amy Bradly did too.  I've been to Aruba and really have nothing against it.  People may be upset because it's run differen't then the U.S.  and may blame Aruba.  There are a few things that should have probably been done differently and that's probably one thing that angers people.  If it was one of the safest places on earth people wouldn't be dissapearing off the island.  When you travel to Aruba that's definetly not what they tell ya.  You can easily be takin off that island for whatever reason expecially at that age.  It's not only Aruba, you could dissapear in Jamaica or any island i'm sure for that matter.  If someone wanted you that bad nothing supprises me anymore.  I just think someone started looking into the wrong things when they started. 

Amy was lost at Sea, she was in her balcony after a  hard nite drinking with her brother. I heard that the people in the cabins next to them heard arguments.  The main suspect is a crew member.  Carlos & Charlies did not exidt 7 years ago.  Not that it matter because she was lost at sea. maybe they should focus thier investigation on her brother too. 

  

In any case we all hope this mistery is resolved, both the Holloway and Bradley case.  

  

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November 19, 2005, 8:58 am PST

11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

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I hope for the family of both, that Dr. Phil's investigation will help both young women to be found.

I hope you know that what comes around goes around.  

We have to pay now because you Americans suffer from MAJOR dellusions of granduer!!!  

The truth is we are just as guilty as you are for choosing the same government twice! And just the same as here(your government)President Bush could not change the outcome in Michael Jackson's trial nor could the government involved change the verdict in OJ Simpson's case. Alabama has about 300 hundred missimg unresolved cases! 

One thing I know  for sure is don't wish upon others what you don't want to be done to you, so now I realize that you guys are just plain evil AND jeaulous because you will NEVER have what we have here in ARUBA! 

PEACE OF MIND! 

 

 
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November 19, 2005, 11:19 am PST

11/17 The Search for Natalee and Amy

Quote From: savilcogna

i TRULY believe there is a connection between those two missing girls.  i saw ty ritter again on msnbc rita cosby and i'm glad this investigation is taking place.  these girls MUST be found.  and i actually learned more from watching rita cosby show.  i didn't realize the cruise was just pulling into port when amy vanished.  i thought they were out to sea.  i've been following both cases since the beginning and pray for both girls and their families regularly.  

 

i missed the dr. phil show this past week.  did anyone possibly tape it, and if so, could i purchase the tape from you?  there are no repeats where i live.  thank you so much.  if so, please email me at leilak561@yahoo.com.   

LET's GENERALIZE LIKE YOU AMERICANS SAY THAT ALL ARUBANS, MEN, WOMEN and CHILDREN ARE TO BLAME WITH NATALEE'S DISSAPPEARANCE.  

SO THEN WE CAN GENERALIZE ALSO THAT ALL AMERICANS ARE DISCRIMINATING PEOPLE! 

 

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