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November 18, 2005, 1:59 pm PST

I am finding a little hope each day

I realized today that I have believed for so long that I was garbage after all the years of abuse that there was no way out of it for me. I did go into a hospital and it has helped change my life.  I had to take responsibility for today, because I am tired of giving my life to all of those horrible yesterdays.  Even with another nightmare last night, I managed to talk my way through to seeing what was at the bottom of everything.  MY SELF WORTH.  I know some of you might laugh but I was sure I felt worthy of something.  But when I checked with myself today.  NOT a thing.  So I wrote a message as to why I am worthy today and I felt better.  I have been sober for the past 6and half months.  I don't allow people to treat me like crap anymore.  But mostly I promise to not treat myself like crap anymore.    So I do have healing to do, and I work at it every day.  Lots of positive self talk and actually taking the time to see what I am thinking.  Instead of let my thoughts rule me, I have taken control and turn them into a more positive and loving light now.  I see that none of it is happening anymore and it wasn't me who was sick.  It was my abusers.  Father, brothers, strangers and mother.  I think I am almost at a place of forgiveness and moving forward.  Thank god there are people to like you to talk to and support to be had out there. Thanks for listening.   JD 

 

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November 22, 2005, 12:45 pm PST

I hope you can start loving yourself

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Hi all, I hope you don't mind me joining you. I fell that I'm getting into private matters and I shouldn't. I'm glad to hear (sad also) some of your stories. I to was abused as a child and adult. I was VERY stupid for most of my life. I was around twenty-five or thirty before I knew I could say no to a man. I really hate myself for that; it's really hard to live with. not only was I abused as a child and young adult, I also entered into an abusive marriage at the age of 17; my husband slept me a lot because I didn't know I could say no, and got me pregnant, my mother made me marry because I was pregnant. I would never so no to my mother. When my father died I pretty much had a break down and was sent to see a psyciatrist, he put me on meds and sent me to counseling, that is where I have learned so much. I still hate myself for being so stupid (for so long). I let everyone walk all over me and treat me like dirt. I still have a hard time saying no to people. I also turned into an alcoholic and drug user. I have stopped that all now, but it was a long road. I'm so proud of everyone for surviving it all. You guys had no place to go, at least I had my home that was safe to sleep in at night. everyone who has quit drinking, congratulation, It is a very hard thing to do. Well it is late and I have to get to bed. If you don't mind I'll be back on again. dg

HI,  I can relate to the self-hatred, and then I realized that I was just continuing the abuse because no one else was doing it anymore.  Even in the past few days I found myself unable to join the world in anyway because i felt not good enough.  But really, the only person I am not good enough for is me.  I practise finding self-love everyday. Through positive self-talk, through courage to let go of the past and live in today, through prayer and meditation.  I really am tired of allowing my sick thoughts rule me.  I hope you can come to forgive yourself for only trying to survive.  Really, if you knew any better wouldn't you have done better.  Truely, I believe I am better than I used to be.  I hope that you can see that in yourself too.  Give yourself cudos for stopping the substance abuse, I am very proud of you.  I hope you can come to find that in your heart for yourself.  Thanks so much for letting me share, because everything I say to you, I need to hear to.  With smiles.  Jo 

 

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November 22, 2005, 12:53 pm PST

You can only be responsible for yourself

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This is a long one.  If you’re a survivor that has had difficulties in relationships and think you can help me, please read it.

  

 

  

 

I am a partner of a survivor.  A week ago she tells me she is going to see a consoler because she feels that she needs to give me something back because I’ve been so patient.  At first I thought this was great.  Then I after a few days of thinking about it I thought differently

  

 

  

 

So this past week I was feeling a little down. She confronts me this weekend and asks what’s going on.  I tell her I’m just going through a tough time right now and she is stunned.  She says things are great and she can’t understand why I’m having a problem.  She says she thinks it’s the sex and I’m heading down the road that led us close to divorce not two months ago.  I told her that wasn’t the case and I just needed a little time to recover.  I told her I didn’t want to get help just for me and if she wanted to get help for her, then great, but don’t force yourself into something just for me.  Was this a mistake?

  

 

  

 

She didn’t give me a response.  So I thought about it some more.  I wondered if she was thinking she needed to give me more in a sexual capacity or if she wanted to know who it affected me and our everyday life.  I was hoping the latter.  I know the sexual aspect of our relationship will likely be last.  We had to postpone this talk due to family obligations.

  

 

  

 

So last night I tell her if she’s having a hard time going to see someone, that reading Allies in Healing might be a good segue.  She tells me she can’t deal with her issues and mine then tells me she wishes she could have a normal life and that can’t happen with us but if she could start over and no one knew about her past maybe it could.  I was floored.  I realize that is a nice fantasy, but to think her past would never haunt her is just that, a fantasy.

  

 

  

 

I got up to go to bed and she engaged me again.  Wanting to know why I didn’t want to finish “Grey’s Anatomy.”  I told her I couldn’t sit there and not talk about it.  She had disassociated herself and I needed to remove myself from the situation.

  

 

  

 

Things deteriorated the following morning when she tells me I’m back to asking her for support and that things are getting back to being as bad as they were when she wanted to leave.  I tell her that’s not the case then I send her the following e-mail:

  

 

  

 

“I’m sorry I pushed you.  I’m not trying to fix you.  I’m trying to help you and I am trying to be supportive.  It’s perfectly normal to have the desire to help the people you care about.  You’ve done the same to me in the past.  You’ve pestered me to tell you what’s wrong even when I didn’t want to talk about it.  You may not recognize that I’m trying to help because you feel like I’m pushing you and maybe I am, but I don’t know that until it gets this far.  I need you to tell me, “Joel, I really can’t talk about it right now.”  And leave it at that.  If I need to remove myself from the room because that’s the only way I can control myself, then let me leave.  Why did you find it necessary to engage me once I decided to go read?  I’m not asking you for an answer.  I’m asking if you know.

  

 

  

 

There’s part of you that wants your past to disappear and there’s part of you that has to talk about it.  That’s hard for me to understand sometimes and I’m sure it is much harder for you.  I want you to feel free to talk to me about it, not because I’m morbidly curious, but because it helps to talk to someone else about things that hurt.  It helps to know that someone else knows and it helps to know that someone else cares enough to listen.

  

 

  

 

I’m not asking you to support me.  I’m asking you for a little help by letting me know your boundaries and expectations.  If you’re unable to do that at this time, then say so but please tell me you’ll think about it.  I can understand if you’re frustrated with me but please don’t be angry with me.  If you’re angry, than direct that anger at the people who deserve it. 

  

 

  

 

I know you don’t expect me to be perfect, but it sometimes it feels like you do.  I am here to stand by your side, to give you a shoulder to lean on when you need it, and to hold you up when you need it.  I am human and I am fallible and there will be times when I stumble.  The only thing I need from you when I stumble is for you to tell me you can’t help me when you can’t and for you to understand that it’s not always easy for me.  So I guess I am asking for some occasional sympathy.  Sorry ‘bout that.  Is that unreasonable?  I’m in a tough spot right now with school, finances, a new job, and selling the business.  Come 2006, a huge portion of that pressure will be lifted.  Please keep that in mind.

  

 

  

 

Kana, I care for you more than anything in the world and nothing is going to change that.  What’s happened to you and what you’ve done to cope with it all of these years can’t take that away.  I would love you just the same had it not happened.  You must believe that.  Do you?  There are times that my heart feels like it’s going to burst with love.  Fortunately, those times are more often than not.”

  

 

  

 

Her response:

  

 

“You just couldn't help yourself could you? Had to make a bad situation worse to make yourself feel better. Maybe in your mind your making it better, but your not. To me it's all word vomit.”

  

 

  

 

I wanted to do was make it better.  How did I make it worse?  How in the hell am I suppose to respond to something like that??

  

 

  

cj 

One thing i have learned as a survivor:  I am the only one who can change anything inside of me.  Not one person out there can help me to change what goes on in my thoughts or with my feelings.  No one has the power to hurt me with words, nor do they have the power to make me feel better.  I am the only one who has the power to change myself.  As with your partner. You can try all you want, but believe me.  YOU HAVE NO POWER TO CHANGE HER.  I suggest you take care of yourself the best you can and allow your partner to take ownership for her actions.  I had to go through weeks of processing my life to finally behold this in me.  Please take care of you and allow her to take care of herself. 

  

JD  

 

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May 13, 2006, 11:50 am PDT

Take responsibility

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My ex-husband displayed many of the same characteristics you are describing in your fiance.....please...RUN, DON'T WALK AWAY!!!  GET AS FAR AWAY FROM HIM AS YOU CAN NOW!!!  You may not believe it could be as serious as a life or death situation, but it definitely is!  I could tell you things you would not believe about  how I ended up being abused by my ex.....but it ended up being not only me, but my daughter as well!!!  He caught me trying to leave a couple of different times and once put a knife to her throat and told me he would cut off her head...I believed him!  Another time, he put a gun to my head.  He even decided that he didn't want our 2nd child (who was conceived when he raped me when I came home after the c-section birth of our daughter) and poured boiling water over my stomach when I was 8 months pregnant!  I was beaten if I took too long at the grocery store, talked to anyone he didn't approve of, or if he just felt like it.  He started out a "wonderful guy"  and moved us 1300 miles from my family....then the true evil came out.  Please, don't let this continue to escalate into a very tragic situation!!!!  Get out now, while you and your daughter are still alive and safe!!  He needs help and your relationship WILL NOT GET BETTER!!!!!!   I wish I could come and take you away from there myself!!!!  Please, let Dr. Phil help you get away!  Don't become another domestic violence statistic. 

Chris Eytcheson 

I understand the men and women are sick who do the stalking and abusing.  There is also another point of view.  I've been in fear and abusive rape situations with my ex partner.  However, I was just as sick as he was for staying while we went through years of him doing these things.  I had to take responsibility that I had zero self-esteem.   

  

Really, who lets a man pour boiling water on their pregnant stomach in hopes of killing the kid and stays.  With compassion I say this.  FEAR does rule the hurt and weak.  However, admit how sick you were too for staying. 

  

Jo-Anne 

 

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May 15, 2006, 11:22 am PDT

Take some responsibility please

I have read so many of these replies.  What strikes me so clearly is that a majority of these mainly women (men also)  who have been in these horrific abusive relationships take no responsibility for personal actions.  What I mean is that the abused were and are just as sick as the abuser.  To stay and take this type of sickness, humiliation, pain and hurt again and again says one thing.  "I think absolutely nothing of myself so I will stay and wait for him or her  to change"  

  

I have lived it.  Been beaten, raped, sodomized and humiliated in various ways day after day.  I was just as sick as he was.  And when people tried to tell me that I would shut them out.  STOP BLAMING and admit it,  "The abused are as sick as the abusers, only it comes out in a passive, pathetic, blaming way"  Take responsiblity and maybe then the healing can begin.    

  

Sincerely,  Jo-Anne  

 

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July 18, 2006, 12:59 pm PDT

07/18 Dr. Phil's Mooch Squad

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these moocher shows are getting on my last nerves. I don't post very often, but today I have to speak my opinion. These young men in my opinion are not moochers, but rather confused young men trying to figure out who they are and what they want to do in the future and no one is trying to help them out. I think that as a society, we look down on those who sink instead of swim. Would the Lord Jesus Christ give up on those who are struggling? NO and neither should we.  

  

Yes, there is a point where we have to put our foot down and say enough is enough, but she should start showing a little compassion here and there.  

  

Even these young men's own families are turning on them and that is a shame. 

Oh give me a break.  The parents are admitting they are raising moochers and thieves and spoiled rotten brats.  Yes compassion, for those who actually have to make a change. 
 

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July 18, 2006, 1:03 pm PDT

I agree 100%

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Today's show is another example of parents' blaming their children for problems that THEY certainly created.  The parents on today's show are clearly enablers.  Not only did they apparently inspire that little moocher fiber in the child's being to grow, but they continue to feed it into adulthood.  Time for these parents to tell their children, "I'm sorry for what I have been contributing to, but now it is time to be the man you're supposed to be already."  

These kids are the product of what they are taught.  It boggles my mind when people turn on the kids and adults when they have been shown no better.  From the two sets of parents I saw on the show, they full out admitted that they created the mess.  When those child adults realize that no more free money, they will hopefully learn to look after themselves.   

  

PARENTS - - GIVING YOUR KIDS EVERYTHING IS A FORM OF ABUSE!!!!!!!!!!!  HOW WILL THEY EVER LEARN TO LOOK AFTER THEMSELVES IF YOU DO EVERYTHING FOR THEM. 

 

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October 7, 2006, 11:34 am PDT

Get real and take a stand

 

This is ridiculous.  If Carly is drunk and someone is there watching her get in a vehicle, take the bleeping keys away from her.  She obviously has a problem if she "can't have fun without alcohol."  If and when she ever deals with that problem is up to her.  For the sake of the rest of us on the road who do drive sober.............take the keys away.

 

Yeah, we all say its sounds harsh until she is dead, or God forbid she puts someone through the pain and torture of killing their loved one.  Some tough love is due here.  Take her vehicle for a period until she does drive only when sober, call the cops when she is driving drunk, or take the keys away until she is sober............make a stand and save a life.

 

I've taken keys away and called cabs.  I've called the cops on people I could not reason with.  I've taken my neices car away when she would not listen.  And I too had to seek help for addictions.  Stop the sensitive BS and take a stand with this obvious hurting and irrisponsible person/child and step in and put down some boundries.  Be a parent and do your job.  Someone do something other than stand by and watch this horribly inexcusable behavior go on and on until a horrific tragedy strikes. 

 

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January 3, 2007, 4:21 pm PST

Blah, blah, blah

Quote From: inkwellhp

I can't believe the Dr. Phil is promoting the use of internet dating.  I can certainly get my head around him posting advice up on match.com, but for him to actually endorse the use of online dating on his show??  Well, I have tried a couple of different sites and got creeped out, no result or just tired of spending the money on nothing.   It is one big steaming cyber pile out there.

 

My limited experience has convinced me that internet dating dangerous and not to many are representing themselves honestly.  Also... a RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) officer told me to stay clear of it.  I am going with what he says!

 

 

 

So you don't agree with On line dating...........then don't do it.  Maybe the cyber pile thats out there is coming from you first - ever think of that. 

 

Its dangerous anywhere.........attract what you deserve and it will come.  Attract the cyber pile and then you know what your sending out in the first place.

 

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June 27, 2007, 3:52 pm PDT

WHY SO SELFISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Both mother's on this show are selfish beyond words.  The alcoholic one is just pathetic.  She needs someone to raise her so she can grow up and become a mother. 

 

As for the other one who plays favorites - I am so mad I am shaking at the thought of you having three children and paying attention to only one.  As Dr. Phil says, he just feels sad.  I feel so angry that a grown woman would actually be so dysfuntional that she would play favorites.  You are such a damaged mother that I feel so bad for your kids.  You are hurting them beyond repair!  So the father of Cullen doesn't love you!  He probably figured out what a dyfunctional, decrepit human being you are!!!!!!

 

If you don't want your other children, give them away!  Stop your sick game playing with young lives THAT YOU BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD!!!!!!  I feel sick and sad and angry that there are people like you raising children to be sad, angry, neglected people.  Shame on YOU. 

 

My only hope is that the mother reads this.  And using your middle child to replace the father's love is just sickning!!!!!!!!!!!!  Get a life and give your kids a chance at something kind, loving and real.  Give your kids away so they have a chance to grow up to be functional human beings.  GET A LIFE!!!!!  Stop being so toxic and do something loving and get help!

 

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