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April 3, 2006, 9:16 pm PDT

Sorry to hear

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Hello.  I am a 47 year old female who just took her husband back after a 4 year separation.   Wow it is an emotional roller coaster.   It is something we both want and wanted.  However,  before you do this,  make sure the questions you ask about "while we were apart" are answered truthfully.    Honestly,  the answers,  if presented in a lie,  are far more damaging than anything else the two of you have been through.   Since my husband has returned I have learned things about him that actually turn my stomach.   He is a totally different person than the man I thought I knew.   In all honesty he is someone I would not have anything to do with at all.   He is manipulative and is a blatant liar.  I know I have gotten myself into a situation that perhaps I did on my own.  But... I never bargained for anything I have learned.  Strip Clubs, hookers, and total scanks, women he slept with out of the blue, women he took home from stip clubs,  are just the icing on the cake.  Lies about behaviors that he knew if I would have known upfront,   would have never agreed to move in together.  Lowlife friends and a lifestyle that would make his own mother cry.   Lowlifes that he lied about me to in an effort to make himself look better. Marriage proposals while he is still married to me was the first thing to cross my path.   The list goes on and on.    I know most people would feel I am crazy for trying.  But I remember how it was without him.  I love him with all my heart.  I fear that who I love is no longer with me.  I keep looking for him and he has not appeared.   I long for the relationship we had before.  I fear that it is never going to happen.  I can not recover from what has happened.  Maybe if the people he were around were even 1/10 of what I knew him to be, it would not be so difficult.   Maybe if he would have ended the affair he was having before comming home to be with me , I would be better.  Maybe this, Maybe that.  Who knows.   It is hard to maintain your self esteem and your trust.  It  IS an uphill battle all the way.   We have  been at this for over 1 year now.  We still argue about his lies after he came home.  We fight about his denials of how he felt and that he liked what he was doing. He claims one thing verbaly,  and his behavior states something different.   Also ,  he alone,  is responsible for his own actions.  Each time it breaks a little more of me and us away.   I am not without fault here. I also had an affair.   But it never felt right to me. I ended it very abruptly.   I wanted him But he was gone with out a trace.  I lived in hell for four years over my mistake.  Now I am to blame for his falling apart and falling into a world of  liars, hookers and crack whores, and lowlife women.   I am not sure how much longer I can hold up.  So People be smart.  Before you decide, think it through and do a little investigating on your own.  Save yourself and give it time.  
About your situation. It sounds like your husband is a sex addict. It doesn't sound like he has taken any responsibility for his actions and that he is covering up his behaviour. I sounds like you are blaming yourself for his behaviour about having an affair yourself. Something must have happened for you to split up in the first place and the fact that it took 4 years to get back together again. I think the hardest thing is when a person bases the relationship on the good beginning of a relationship thinking somehow it will be like that again and maybe it was an illusion. I go to a support group called COSA.(co dependent of a sex addict) I wish you well in trying to figure things out and hope things get better for you. It really sounds like you have to start taking care of yourself. Really take care of yourself.
 
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September 15, 2006, 3:14 pm PDT

Christina get out

I am sorry that you have gotten involved with this man. He has a serious problem. It sounds like he is a sex addict to me. When he filled out a profile and was deceptive about that and having changed his passwords on his email without letting you know. It doesn't make sense that he was living part time with his wife if it wasn't a real marriage. The fact that he had someone else (girlfriend) in the mix. Do yourself a favor and get out and get some counseling. I would recommend going to a COSA (codependant of a sex addict) meeting. This man can not change without serious therapy. You are a young and beautiful woman and you can do better for yourself. I would be concerned about sexually transmitted diseases with this man.
 
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October 2, 2006, 1:56 pm PDT

Jessica seems to be detached

I was amazed to watch the dialogue between Jessica and Justin and how this teenager was pouring out his pain that she had created and how she just looked detached like it didn't even move her.. She had the nerve to sit there and say when you do or says these and you don't respect me I get so angry.. I can't believe she thinks she deserves respect.. She is soooo disrespectful herself and she is supposed to be modeling that behaviour.. Well you can see what kind of behaviour she has. I felt so bad for the boy and the other sons as well. They are going to need a lot of counseling to recover from all of this. She is so controlling and manipulative it is amazing. Todd needs to move on and take care of himself and his children. I really hope that Dr Phil offers aftercare to help this family. Jessica isn't committed to making this marriage work at all.
 
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October 2, 2006, 1:56 pm PDT

Jessica seems to be detached

I was amazed to watch the dialogue between Jessica and Justin and how this teenager was pouring out his pain that she had created and how she just looked detached like it didn't even move her.. She had the nerve to sit there and say when you do or says these and you don't respect me I get so angry.. I can't believe she thinks she deserves respect.. She is soooo disrespectful herself and she is supposed to be modeling that behaviour.. Well you can see what kind of behaviour she has. I felt so bad for the boy and the other sons as well. They are going to need a lot of counseling to recover from all of this. She is so controlling and manipulative it is amazing. Todd needs to move on and take care of himself and his children. I really hope that Dr Phil offers aftercare to help this family. Jessica isn't committed to making this marriage work at all.
 
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January 19, 2007, 9:26 am PST

Enza is out of control

I am in complete disbelief by this womans behaviour. (although I probably shouldn't be really) She is like an attacking pit bull. With the way she is screaming and swearing how can anyone hear her? People shut down and tune out when people are out of control like that. The relationship between Enza and Kim is so toxic. Enza needs a tremendous amount of therapy. I am hoping that Kim and her daughter can get the help they need. They are modeling behaviour for this young girl. I was really disgusted with the look on Enzas face when she was trying to instigate something when Alex was going to get her test. Like yea yea your mother has slept around she needs to go too. In the car she had that smug smirk on her face too. Anyhow it is going to take alot of work on her part and I have no idea if this women has any awareness of her issues so she may not even be capable of being open to it. I think this whole thing is tragic and I am praying that they can change this path they have been on. I will be watching to see what happens.
 
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January 19, 2007, 11:13 am PST

Run Nikki

You are such a beautiful young woman. You deserve so much more than you even realize. I think getting therapy for yourself to see why you would be in an in again off again relationship to someone who could not whole heartedly commit themselve to your relationship. I can not tell from the show today what kind of personality Shane has, but you seem to be very outgoing, warm and personable. He was very aloof and not warm at all. I know that when a person is in the middle of all this that it is hard to step back and get perspective. I wish you luck going forward.
 
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January 19, 2007, 12:30 pm PST

Thank you

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Having worked in behavioral health for almost 30 yrs. I came away with a variety of concerns for both you and your daughters.

Initially, I thought that you were there because you were looking for Dr. Phils help. This is not your first or even second involvement with a man behind bars but your third! Even more disturbing when Dr. Phil questioned you about all of those other guys out there you indicated that you just werent attracted to the non-criminal types. Almost as if danger HAS to be an element for you to pursue a relationship. Even more baffling you expressed an attraction/ fascination with his tattoos. The MOST superficial thing about the man. Lastly, you spoke of his being behind bars as better than having a man at home engaged in violence as if there were no other options!

What about intimacy-Im not simply referring to physical intimacy, either. You are pursuing men and relationships that CAN NOT provide you with a companion. Youre involved with a man charged with murder, as I understand. I feel that there is a REAL fundamental reason that you dump guys after they are out. I may be completely wrong, however, having ALL those fantasies about these dangerous and forbidden men keeps you involved. I believe that when there are no bars and they are in your home reality hits and the danger changes from the thrill of having a dangerous man LOCKED away, to the recognition that the danger is real and now living with you and your children. Dr. Phil made some excellent points about children. You are their same sex role model. The most important influence your daughters will EVER have. They are learning about men through your choices!

You are consistently involving yourself with men you can NOT have a REAL day to day relationship with.

I was wondering what threatens you about having a truly intimate companion in your life? Someone who is there for you when you have to say, rush a child to the hospital at 3AM. What could be the worst thing that could happen if you had a man who held your hand and was physical and emotional THERE any time of the day or night and could support YOU emotionally through lifes most dreadful experiences?

Ive asked a lot of questions. Just wondering about these things. I wish you well.

I just wanted to thank you for posting this. I think the questions you asked what you shared is amazing,
 
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February 14, 2007, 12:45 pm PST

i agree

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i think he thought he was cured was because it is such a grand experience to not feel like exhibiting the behavior, especially after 25 years. when you are excited about something, you tend to celebrate the moment.  he, obviously, at that moment felt that he had indeed been cured.

 

this supercedes any other reason like that he is indeed not cured, but that he has to manage it the rest of his life.  reality will eventually catch up, but for now i am glad to see that he his excited about his achievement.

 

it is just a celebration of a milestone that made him feel good.  he may have jumped the gun, but in no way am i going to take that away from him.  i will only enourage him to continue.

 

if indeed he is only lying to himself, i don't think that he meant to.

 

if he meant to lie, i still see the need to encourage him because he obviously needs the support. 

 

it's just a matter of giving a person a chance based on the fact that he never chose the behavior and there is always a small chance of rehabilitation.  maybe the way exhibitionists are rehabilitated is just plain wrong and that is why there is such a high rate of failure.

 

hope this made sense!

 

have an incredible day,

kathy

I agree with what you said here and I am hoping that his recovery continues and he can have the peace in his life that I think we all deserve.
 
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February 14, 2007, 6:22 pm PST

finding help

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I know what you are going through...I will pray for you...get some support for yourself, pornography addictions are serious....most likely you will continue to find things out about his addiction and it severity...keep your guard up...especially if you have kids....if you need someone to talk to or even vent to when things come out you can always message me....cuz girl ive been through it....my husband just got worse and worse even with treatment and sa....i had to leave due to safety issues with myself and my kids...I hope your husband can make it...It is hard to be in your place taken along for someone elses bad choices, sometimes it feels like all you can do is react when the "stuff"  comes out.  Im sorry it hurts....
I also wanted to suggest that you find COSA meetings for yourself. That is codependant to a sex addict. I have been going for 2 years now and it has really saved my life although I couldn't see that when I first started. For me this has been a blessing in disquise and I am grateful for finding my own recovery.
 
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May 4, 2007, 1:54 pm PDT

You go for your dream Sunni

I think you are beautiful and you should pursue your dream. From your appearance on the show you seem to have a beautiful spirit within as well. I have sadness that Christian is abusing you mentally. I wish I could have presented myself with as much confidence and beauty as you do. I have been doing weight watchers for a year now and have lost 97 pounds. I started out at 298. I am married and my husband met me overweight and he never ever said anything about my weight. What absolutely amazes me is the complete acceptance of me. What's funny is people say to me gosh he must be so happy that I have lost this weight. I say he loves me no matter what(that is the coolest thing). I could never have lost weight if I had done it for him or if he had been dogging me about my weight. The weight lose is about me, for me and that is why I have been able to do it. If I had done this for someoone else I wouldn't have been successful and also be able to continue on my weight loss journey. Anyhow Sunni I wish you lots of happiness and success!
 

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