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November 18, 2005, 7:33 pm PST

I Want to Adopt

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I have a hard time understanding people that throw being adopted in someone's face.  I can't stand when people say, "I am adopted."  I wish they would say, "I was adopted."  Adoption is the way a child comes into a family.  To me it makes no difference if a baby was placed in a family by natural birth or adoption, it is just the way they found their family.  Adoption can be a beautiful thing.  I know many a biological children that have rebelled against their parents and gone off the depend, but for some reason when a child rebels that was adopted, everyone says, "Well, you know, he was adopted."  Give me a break!  It has nothing to do with it.   I know many friends and children that had been adopted that do not have the desire to meet their birthparents because they feel they already have parents.  Did you know that only 10% of children that had been adopted want to meet their birthparents?  We only see the stories on TV because they are different than the norm.  Anyway, my point is that we have two girls, one by natural birth and the other  through adoption.  I know that people that have not gone through it themselves have a hard time understanding, but there is absolutely  no difference in our minds between the two.  They just came into our family two different ways.  There spirits were meant to be in our home.  We are so blessed to have them apart of our lives.  I could never pick one over the other and it drives me crazy when there is a difference in other people's minds between the two.  The adoption process, in my experience, has been nothing but a wonderful miracle.    

 You sound like a great person, who wants the best for her kids.  As such, I hope you will read and seriously consider what I am about to say.

I "am" adopted.  I "was" adopted, and I still am.  Being adopted is a part of me, just as it is a part of every adoptee.  No amount of love can ever change that.

There is a HUGE difference between an adopted child and a biological child, and successful adoptive parents are the ones who realize, acknowledge, and accept this difference.  There is also a difference between LOVING your children the same, and TREATING them the same.

Your adopted daughter suffered a loss.  She may not remember it, but it still exists.  I was almost 3 months old when I was adopted, so I have no memory.  But, I was a very sensitive child (I still am very sensitive), and despite the incredible bond I had with my mom, I was often very nervous and insecure.  My mom is somewhat of an expert on adoption (due to her seeking out as much information on adoption and adoption loss as she could find), and she always understood this loss.  As a result, she was able to help me to deal with my loss, and helped me to become a healthy child and adult.

It's true that any child can rebel, but adoptive parents often unknowingly push their child away because the child feels like an outsider, like they don't belong, or like they can't talk to their parents about their true feelings.  Adoptees are told to be grateful and forget their natural families, so when they feel differently, it's very difficult for them to express these feelings.  They often end up acting out instead, or they become withdrawn and depressed.  Some are able to put up a front and can seem quite content, but deep inside is a turmoil that can explode years down the road.

I must know over a hundred adoptees, in real life and on the internet, and only a small handful of them don't want to find their natural families.  I would say less than 5%.  Whether or not they would tell their adoptive parents this is a whole other issue.  There is so much guilt involved in searching.  I know many adoptees who have waited until their adoptive parents have passed away before searching, even though they have wanted to search since they were children.  It's so sad!

My mom always understood my desire to meet my natural family, and encouraged me to search.  She has been very involved in my reunion, and is considered a part of my natural family, just as my natural family is a part of hers.  This has allowed me to express my feelings, and remain close with her as I discover my natural family as well.

I would say this to anyone wanting to adopt 1) adoption is not a cure for infertility; it's a way to provide a child with a home when they don't have one to go to   2) it's natural for an adoptee to want to be reunited with their natural family, and this should be encouraged and supported   3) an adopted child is NOT the same as a biological child; they can be LOVED the same, but should not be TREATED the same, because they have suffered a loss and have unique issues.

I hope you will consider this, for the sake of your daughter and your relationship with her.
 
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November 18, 2005, 7:40 pm PST

Spanking: Useful or Cruel?

 As a child, I found spanking to be humiliating, frightening, and disrespectful, but it was done incorrectly in my house.

I would ONLY spank my son if it was a safety issue, and it would be ONE spank on the bottom.  I would then explain to him what he had done that was so dangerous, and that I spanked him because I wanted to make sure that he would remember not to do it again.

I think spanking for any other reason is wrong.
 
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November 25, 2005, 5:38 pm PST

Spanking: Useful or Cruel?

 I guess since I was never spanked in the correct context, and it was so horrible for me, I can't imagine how it might feel if it WAS done correctly.  That's why I'd have a very hard time spanking my son.  I can't imagine him feeling anything other than humiliation, fear, and disrespect from it, because that's all I felt.  It certainly does make more sense than having your child spend an hour going in and out of time-out.  I'd like to be comfortable using a spank in the correct setting, but I don't know if I'll ever be able to.
 
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November 25, 2005, 5:48 pm PST

Birth Stories

 I had a very long birth experience, but it was well worth it!

My son was due on July 9th.  When he hadn't come on the 15th, and I was not even starting to dilate, my OB told me to check into the hospital on July 19th.  I did so around 4 PM, and by 9 PM, I had Cervidel inserted to try to help me dilate.  My contractions got strong enough that I could no longer sleep through them, and they were coming about every 5 minutes.  By 9 PM on the 20th, I had only dilated to about 2 cm, so at 1:30 AM on the 21st, I was taken to L&D, where they inserted a Foley catheter, to force my cervix open.  About an hour and a half later, I had dilated to 3 cm, and was told that the next day, when a labour room was available, I would be induced.

At 2:30 PM on the 21st, my water was broken, and my contractions got even more intense, and were coming about every 4 minutes.  At 7:30 PM, I was put on oxytocin, as well as IV fluids and antibiotics, because I had a fever and my blood pressure was up.

At 2:30 AM, I had an epidural.  When they checked me around 5:30 AM, I was still only about 4 cm dilated, and there was talk of a c-section, because my son's heart rate kept dropping.  But, when another OB came down about 45 minutes later and checked me, I was 8-9 cm!

Finally, at 6:15 AM on July 22, I began to push.  For the first hour, nothing happened, and again, they started talking about a c-section.  On the next push, his head finally started to move down.  They decided to use a vacuum to help him come out, since he was very stressed (there had been a LOT of meconium in the fluid).  At 7:46 AM, he was born, weighing 8lbs. 11oz. and measuring 22" long.  His head was huge, at 14.5 " around.  I think it's close to a miracle that I had absolutely no tears nor episotomy!!

Today, my son is 4 months and 3 days old, and is the light of my life.  I know they say you forget the pain of childbirth, but I definitely haven't.  But, I don't mind, because I'd do it all over again.
 
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November 26, 2005, 5:32 pm PST

Julie, jlp, marthalea

 I hope you are successful in your searches.

If you go to a search engine and type in "adoption registry", or "adoption search", you should be able to find some free sites that you can search on.  The more information you have, the easier your search will be.

My natural mother decided to search for me on the spur of the moment, and found me on the first site she looked on!  She tried another one, just to be sure, and found me there, too!  I think I registered on 5 sites, completely for free.

Good luck to all three of you, and best wishes.
 
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November 28, 2005, 6:26 am PST

My Adoption Story

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I mean that it is good to let him know that he was adopted but why not wait until he is 18 to see her?
 Why wait?  I think it really depends on the situation, but often contact with natural parents can really help an adopted child to resolve their adoption issues.

I would have loved to meet my natural parents earlier.  My mom tried to keep in contact with my natural father, but the adoption agency wouldn't facilitate it.
 
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November 28, 2005, 6:29 am PST

Foster Parenting

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Does any one know where I can get help for a child adopted out of the foster system who has been diagnosed with Reactive Attachment Disorder
 Can you speak to the child's pediatrician?  Perhaps they can recommend a therapist...
 
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November 30, 2005, 7:50 am PST

I'm Pregnant!

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Im Just turned 17 and am 3 Almost 3 Months Preg With My 21 year olds b/f's Baby..My family Knows and My b/f Is now liveing with me and My father..Im thinking about Giveing My child Up for adoptaion Even tho I don't want to and I know It would Hurt me..But My b/f dosent make enough money To suport me and a Baby and Most of my family is mad and Wont Help Us out and My b/f has no Family..My b/f Dosent want Me to Give it Up and he is really happy about the baby and is sticking around and i dont want to either Exept for the fact i want My child To have a Good life and a Better life I had and I want it to have all the things It Needs and wants...Im affraid when it grows up and relizes Whats going On with are money problem and are issuies with Maybe not Being able to afford It that It will hate us...Can anyone Give Me any advie On what I should do..My father aint helping us and Moved My b/f in with us to get on a feet he said But he is Now takeing almost My b/fs Whole check and we dont have money to get him a car or Us A place to Live since are place is way to small and overly crowded and filled with stuff so we cant even make room for the child...
 This must be so scary for you!  Fortunately, there are resources available to help you.  I'm assuming you are in the USA.  Try www.keepyourbaby.com for help.  Also, if you go to MSN and look in the "groups" section, you will find several adoption groups, many of which have member who will be more than happy to help you out.

Remember, you have the RIGHT to get government services to help you keep your baby.  If you have the maturity and the will to take care of your baby, it can definitely be done.  It won't be easy, at least not for a few years, but there is help out there if you are willing to look for it.

Look in your phone book to see if there are any crisis pregnancy services in your area.  Even if they can't help you, they should be able to direct you to somewhere that can.

Don't let anybody tell you that you can't do this, if you truly believe that you can.  Be honest with yourself.  If you think that you have the capacity to love and care for this child, and be responsible for providing all of his/her needs, then go for it.  If you feel that you will not be able to provide a loving, safe home, then look at adoption.  It can be great when the circumstances require it.

Best of luck to you, your boyfriend, and your unborn child.
 
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November 30, 2005, 7:57 am PST

General Advice

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Hello, I am a first timer at this messageboard thing and I don't quite know how it works but I am desperate. I have 3 very beautiful kids, 14, 7, & 2, and I love them with all my heart. They are my world. I am married but that did not come till about 5 yrs. ago. My problem is that when my oldest daughter was born I was married to her father, after yrs. of abuse, we left when she was 4. She was my side kick, were I was, she was. I was in a relationship that did not work when she was 7 and found I was pregnant. I had the baby by myself because the father was not a good father of his own so he never new and it was just the 3 of us. My daughter recented her new brother because he interfered with her and mom. I still showed her the attention I could but it was diferent because he need more. She did play with him and as he became mobil, she would do things with him but you could tell she wasn't as loving as you would expect. Just before he turned 2, and her 9, I met my now husband and we hit it off. Almost a year later we all moved in to his apt. My daughter tested him and he handled it. He is a great father and the kids really love him. 2 yrs. ago my husband and I decided to have a baby of our own. We told the kids what was going on and they thought it was a great idea, they even play fought about what the baby should be. My daughter wanted a baby sister and talked my son into wanting one too. Now that the baby is 2, I have seen alot between my daughter and son, she has nothing to do with him and is mean and hateful when she has to be or do for him, he is now 7 and she is 14. She is not nice to him at all and he feels her hatered for him, I know that she would never see him hurt and would come to his rescue but she is so mean that you would not know that. Last night I saw a show that was talking about the choking game, I thought it best to talk with my son about putting things around his neck without great detail of the game. I told him that if he did this then he could die, his reply is what scared the hell out of me. He said, " That would be OK." and when I questiond why that would be ok, in horror! He informed me that death would be ok because then he would not have deal with his sister being so mean any more! Has any one delt with sibling rivalrys to this magnatude before, and made it through? If so, I NEED YOUR HELP!! Now I am afraid of my son and suiside, the better way in his mind. Should I really think about counciling? My son is a very happy boy, he plays with his baby sister and has a great time. He is very loving, I get hugs all day long and kisses. I am lost and scared, any advice would help.
 I doubt your son is seriously thinking about suicide, but obviously he is unhappy about his relationship with his sister.  I would suggest sitting down with both of them, and attempting to do some mediation at home.  If it doesn't work, then seeing a counsellor is not a bad idea.  If I were you, I would also have a one-on-one conversation about his comment about dying, and tell him that you were very worried about what he said, because he sounded very sad, and you would be very sad if he died.  Most likely, he will admit that he doesn't really want to die.

Good luck!
 
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November 30, 2005, 8:03 am PST

Single Parenting

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Hi - I'm a single parent with 5 kids. Okay blame me, but the advice was if he's a drinker get out. I did. I'm in desperate need for a vehicle. In short - My x took the van & the money that was to pay bills. Bills in my name. He's Joe dad to the kids. My credit is ruined now. I'm going to school, working part-time. I've tried every avenue I can think of. Any advice?
 Wow, I don't envy you at all!  Being a single mom of 1 is hard enough!

This may be a long shot, but maybe you could talk to someone in financial aid at your school?  They may have access to programs that could offer you more financial assistance.  There's got to be something someone can do to help you!

Also, maybe someone who works with the families of alcoholics might have some advice, as you are certainly not the first mother who's had to take her kids out of the house because of alcoholism.
 

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