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November 22, 2005, 8:31 pm PST

THE FIRST FAMILY ON TODAYS SHOW

     I watched todays show!  The 2nd family look like they will make it and will be happy! 

 

The first family ..has problems.  I'm taking a guess here.. hear me out! 

 

the husband treated his daughter like a wife for 2years.  there needs to be some space.  I could see this daughter having a sexual relationship with her dad.  I'm not saying anything like that would happen or the dad being a perve but, the daughter and the dad have taken the daughter's role so far that its natural to think about the next step.  I also think that this dad likes  having to women fight over him.  How he sat there and smirked and says I spoil the daughter. i feel as if he doesn't want to change it.  Also, I think its going to be hard to change the daughter.  If the daughter does get less attention with dad ..she might act out 2 try and get that attention back.   

 

this is a messy problem.  I hope they have an update show on the first couple.   

 
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November 27, 2005, 9:03 pm PST

thank you

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 I couldn't of said it better myself.  You hit the nail on the head in All the areas. What is is with girls and their dad's?  What is it with dad's and their daughters.  It would creep me out when my husband would let his daughter put and leave her hand in his front pocket of his jeans.  Of course I was the one with my mind in the gutter.  He definitely does have a ego problem.  How sick is that to ruin your daughter and marriage because it.  He is not teaching her about male female married adult relationships.  I hope they have a updated too.   

   I know the dad probably wanted to have another person around to tallk to and act like a wife.  I can see that...Did anyone see the oprah show on the same day?  the girls mom had cancer and made her 100 tapes.  In there she said to her daughter that she wanted her dad to remarry. 

The dad did find someone else and  asked talked to the daughter about the woman.  The daughter said that she needed more time to get to know the new g-f.   And she did.  I think she said about 6mo later she told her dad she was ready to invite the lady into there life. 

 

I think also...the girl had sleep-overs to get to know the future wife.  And just hang-out.    

that seems so great 

 
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November 27, 2005, 9:55 pm PST

blame self

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it seems somw of you have very sick imaginations, or maybe you just fill in the blanks when you see fit.  get a grip.......and pull your heads out of the gutter.

I hope dr phil can help you.  Cuz in your messages you are still defending yourself and blaming others. 

your daughter will not change quickly and maybe only 10% because she was acting like your wife for 2 yrs.  The flag went up for me when I heard " i could make my dad his favorite food..he would have to teach me..but, then we wouldnt need her."  that is not exact but, it was something like that .  you can love your kids but, dont LOVE your kids.   

 

Most people dont have that talk untill they are in a very deep relationship. Which your daughter is acting like she is at that step with you. question-->DID you let you daughter and wife have one on one time together.  sleep-overs,shopping, talking?  I also think you were being selfish.  Your daughter wants her mother back..that tells me you never cared if your daughter was ready for another person to come into your household. You just needed a female person around and when you got that your daughter went on the back-burner..but, she will push until you cave and put her in front.  

 

I hope you see what has happend and I'm glad your trying to get help.   

 
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December 4, 2005, 9:15 pm PST

:)

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i would love to talk to you,, just for support.. it is the most ripping situation ...  like living with his girlfriend and him expecting you to smile and like it.   and then crawl into bed with him and be intimate.   it really , really hurts.   i , again, am so surprised that other woman really have had the same reactions as me.  it just alters the very core of what 'marriage' is. 

very draining and wearing. 

  

thanks.. I am to.   

 
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May 3, 2007, 9:43 pm PDT

they are both to blame!!

Here is the thing.  I feel yes.. dad is wrong. 

 

I do think the mom does the samething to the kids.  Yes, she is not innocent.  When he said about pulling the daughters hair.  I believe him.  I could tell that she to me looked "caught".  I think blaming the dad 100% is wrong. And can't believe that dr. phil bullied the DAD ( but plus, I do know there is editing .. so, there could have been more but, we dont know)

 

I think they are BOTH at fault.  I also feel that the mom picks abusive men.  So, she needs help in that. Because its a pattern with her. 

 

Furthermore, the mom should be punishing the kids.  The step-parent should slowely step-up .. not all at once "this is your new dad (or mom) and you have to listen to them"  When you have kids this old .... it doesn't work and there is hositlity  from the kids to the parents.

 

In closing, I think the step kids need to have therapy. Because, the boy said I'm going to kill you.  Which that tells me there is a lot more behind that then just bulling.  He probably has anger issues with mom and dad and maybe the new kids and just in general.

 

This whole family needs help.. but, I do feel that dr. phil didnt get on the mom enough.  I wish he would have got on the swearing. And how the mom deals with the kids. Also, we got to remember what this guy doesn't know how to parent.. and is thinking this is how my generation was dealt with.. So, he is doing the same thing.

 

I pray the family can make it... or a good change be made!

 

 
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May 3, 2007, 9:46 pm PDT

omg.. you are right :)

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The "Bully Dads" was the the missed mark...if it was bully dads...the dad should have been the biological Parent...not a step father.  The dynamics of a blended family were the issues here, not a bullying Dad.   I am Mother of my two Adopted Step Sons and still have been told by counselors that I am NOT their parent.  I am in no way defending the way the step dad reacted to the 12 y/o.  Although I can empathize with his frustration and know where it is coming from.  DR PHIL!, if you read these message boards please listen.  I saw a man who was asking for help....not one who was trying to jusify himself by putting a "but" after an admission to guilt.  Some people, and it's apparent that he is one, do not know an effective way of communication.   The "but"'s after his admission to guilt was him asking..."how do I react to this?"  He was crying out for help!  I saw a whole hour of beating this man down.  I am in the same situation, without the abuse, but with the same frustration, and I got absolutely no help from that show.   I wouldn't stay and try to be a positive role model in that boys life if you had talked to me like that!  You never addressed the issues and dynamics of step and blended families.   I was really disapointed in you.

 

We live in an age of "Step" and "Blended" families....a lot of people do not agree that parents of children should remarry let alone get a divorce in the first place.   I also agree with that to an extent that all options, negotiations, therapy whatever it takes to save that first marriage should be done.  BUT, we must face reality.  The divorce rate is high and children are the real victims of it.  AND, most likely, one of those divorced parents will remarry and most likely remarry someone with children.  The Dynamics are astounding!  Can you and will you PLEASE ever address the step family issues that have become part of American culture!

 

I beleive that man has tried his hardest to love and give his step children the love and affection they deserve but the biological parent sabotoged it and his wife may be the REAL abuser!  I've lived it!

 

Catmcd

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May 3, 2007, 9:49 pm PDT

yeepers

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This mother is just as responsible as the step-father. She needs to be held as accountable as him. I am disappointed that Dr Phil did not tell her that she would also be charged as an abusive parent. She appears to be enjoying the victim role.

yes.. I agree.. why did dr. phil keep on attacking this guy.

 

She is staying cuz of a roof over their head.  again.. she  goes for abusive times... and it seems that she is an abuser also. 

 
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May 3, 2007, 10:09 pm PDT

to both couples

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Jessica's parents could have been me and my husband 16 years ago.  Our beautiful daughter was dating a druggie who was verbally abusive to her, didn't like to work, lost his drivers license and hated us.  She was determined to marry him and it didn't matter what we pointed out to her, she always came up with an excuse for him.  I warned her that there is a very thin line between verbal and physical abuse, but she didn't believe me.  She paid for the marriage license and pretty much supported him.  After nearly two years he came home one early morning after being out drinking all night and beat her up.  She called police and he was put in jail.  Then she called us and we moved her back home that day.  Much later she told me that she knew she had made a mistake the day she got married.  I asked her why she didn't annul the marriage and come home and her reply was that she didn't want to admit she was wrong.  So I hope Jessica and Matt took Dr. Phil's advice to not see, or talk to each other for three months.  Perhaps she will realize that her parents are right.  Otherwise she will suffer just like my daughter did.  I thank God every day that there were no children born to this marriage.

I agree with dr. phil that the first couple need no contact for 90 days.. ( like in house rehab).  I also feel that this girl is going against her parents to spite them.  I think this happends to a lot of people.  they do drugs together .. and its like their way of connecting. Which I think dr. phil saw.

The girl has issueswith her parents.  I didn't like the laughing and not taking 60 days sober as a good thing. Sober is hard and  maybe its 60 days but, its better thans nothing.

 

The second couple.  the family might not Agree with this wedding. But, let him seen how it is and from there ... let him fall in learn.  best thing. 

I didn't like this woman.. I have a feeling she will be on maury.. and the show called "I slept with 4 of your brothers and you might not be the father"

 

her flirting with brothers in the family.. creep-e.

 
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May 3, 2007, 10:20 pm PDT

my feelings on this show

what a show

 

grace has a great mom and dad.

 

here is the thing.. that grandma is from another generation where "this is not talked about".  I understand that and she seemed to know the role as I promised this has happend before. the abuser is usually a victim at one point in their life.  So, the grandfather was messed with.. then he does it to someone.. ( which it was poor grace)  and then keeps on going. Its a cycle.

 

The grandmother .. I felt has "played this role before"  If she wants to see grace.. then just have a girls day. grace, mom, and grandma.   women bonding.. and no pleading in it from grandma about how " grandpa" is "healed".

 

if you love grace.. you will do anything for her ..

 
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May 3, 2007, 10:34 pm PDT

dr. phil is right again

the oldest sister and the mom gang up on everyone.  they do have stong personalities but, one person is not the problem. colon cleaning does take recovery time and prep time.  Im  glad  tcarrie has her dad.  maybe she should only write that she wants her dad to split with mom in a journal or talk to a pro about it. And not getting the dad involved in it. 

 

This seems just like my moms family.  they dont talk , if they do its all the past, and just a mess.

I hope this family can get through this

 

they are all at fault. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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