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March 2, 2006, 8:07 am PST

03/02 Our Biggest Battle

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My fiance does the same thing, except that we live together. After going round and round over it for 3 years, he's still doing it. However, he's trying to tear himself away and spend more time with me.  In the end, I decided that if I could'nt get the mountain to come to me as often as I felt I needed it to, then I was going to have to go to the mountain. He came home one day to find an overstuffed chair in his " office ", and I have absolutely no qualms about grabbing a book or my drink or whatever and parking myself in that chair behind him when he's been missing in computerland for a few hours too long. And when I've gotten my fill of togetherness, or I get bored, I leave the room. That problem is solved.
 I guess my situation is different because I love video games too.  My boyfreind  has currently started playing World of Warcraft, an online game where you can play with other people all over the world.  I'll usually lay on the bed and watch him play.  Sometimes he'll have his character do things (like dance, or tell a joke) just so I can see what happens. Most of the time he isn't so absorbed in the game where we can't talk.  So it's fun.  Also a lot of the video games now a days, especailly the RPG styles ones, have really great graphics and video sequences like movies and are raelly fun to WATCH someone play.

But I think your idea is great.  I mean there isn't anything that says you can't do something esle in the same room with him that YOU want to do.  For me  I like to color, so sometimes I'll just sit and color while he plays his game.  Usually when I'm playing he'll get on the computer and dink around, but it's in the same room so no biggie.  I only really get annoyed if he starts listening to music or something w/o headphones one while I'm playing.
 
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March 2, 2006, 8:34 am PST

03/02 Our Biggest Battle

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You can not condem someone without knowing all the facts.  This is Darcy!  It was a no-brainer to take my kids to Florida (way across the country).  I had consulted with therapists, doctors, friends, etc.  They all felt that it was a good decision on my part.  I knew my husband for a year and a half before we moved to FL.  I wanted to get my son out of California because he was a recovering meth addict.  He was in rehab for 3 months.  When he came out, he was still hanging around the same friends and started meth again.  I moved him to BFE to get him away from that crowd along with wanting to be with my husband and make a new life there.  My son has thrived here and is no longer doing drugs.  He has a full-time job and is doing well.  My daugher was not doing well in school in California because she was very "popular" and always worried about what people said.  She came to Florida, made a lot of new friends, loves it here and neither of them want to move back to California.  I have always left that option open to them.  They could easily go live with their father.  They chose to stay!  To say "I threw them to the wolves" is entirely a misconception.  Our biggest battle is with the chores and the rules and is in fact true to the story you will see today.  Let me take a look into your life!!
It was probably a good idea for you to move your son away from the people he was hanging around in California.  I'd imagine any rehad counselor would have told you that was a BRILLIANT idea.   Obviously that isn't the problem here.  I don't really get the sense that your children are "rebelling" or anything like that because you all moved, or you got married.  I think they just have a hard time adjusting to the way your husband interacts with them, and rightly so.

 I could honestly see your husband taking this approach with your children IF they were REALLY bad children (that seems to be in fashion now adays with shows like Nanny 911 and Brat Camp), but they aren't.   Also military style discipline just doesn't work if the person doing the disciplining ever wants a hope of having a good and caring relationship with the people it's being used on.  So it's defiantely not good in a family setting.

Being a mother you probably already know that kids respond much better to things when they are ASKED rather than TOLD to do something.  I don't work with teenagers but I know this works with young children, if you make it seem like what they are doing is a favor to you they are MUCH more inclined to do it.   I think your husband is so used to getting results through military style leadership that he isn't really prepared with the tools on how to deal with leadership in a family.  He didn't seem like a bad guy, and you didn't seem like a bad mother, and your kids certainly didn't seem like bad kids.  I do agree with Dr. Phil that you do need to be the primary disciplinarian, but you need to find out what works with your children and stick to it and your husband just needs to learn to deal with it.  They are NOT his kids, and he needs to respect that.

For the record I'm 24 and my mom just got remarried 2 years ago, and I have for the most part a great relationship with my step-dad.  He's totally different than my dad (even though I love him too).  Of course he was just sort of all the sudden thrust into my life, so it was sort of strange for me.  He lived in TX and my mom lived in Ohio, so  they spend part of the year here and part of the year there.   When he's here sometimes they get on my nerves, but it's okay because that happens.  But he is genuinely intersted in what I'm doing with my life and I feel like he cares.

What I'm getting at is I think your husband could have a great relationship with your kids if he approached them differently.  I think he needs to take a more active role in investing quality time with them and being supportive of their efforts.  Considering his background it is going to be something new for him so he might need some loving encouragement from you, and patience from your children.  He needs to accept and learn how to interact with them as people that he genuinely has a vested interest in getting to know.

I hope this helps. Best Wishes to you and your family. :)
 
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March 2, 2006, 8:36 am PST

03/02 Our Biggest Battle

Quote From: louie311

I don't want to pick on men, but this is in response to the "boy" who also happens to be a dad and husband, who spends hours and hours on the computer.........You CHOSE to Marry, You CHOSE to Become a Father therefore, you have signed yourself up for a lifelong partnership....What ENTITLES you to not assist with the kids, what ENTITLES you to sleep in, what ENTITLES you to call your wife stupid when in all actuality if you thought she was stupid you wouldn't leave your children in her care day and night, unless you too, are an idiot?  The bottom line is that you need to grow up honey and kiss the ground your patient and tolerant wife has for you because I would've knocked your big butt into the land of "Doom" a long long time ago.... 
 teehee...the "land of Doom" I am soooo going to have to use that one for SOMETHING.
 
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March 2, 2006, 8:43 am PST

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It sounds to me like you know in your heart what is right.  Please remember its your life too, and you dont have to accept the feeling of being left out. Thats not a good relationship.  Sounds to me, like he has ALOT of growing up to do, especially if thats how he spends the majority of his free time. Don't you want more for yourself and your children(someday)? He is showing you what makes him happy. It's up to you, to see it. Good Luck and Dont Settle!  Its ok to be alone too!
 You know that is pretty low of you to say. People that choose to play video games in their free time are NOT immature. Being a gamer myself I find that a little offensive.    There is nothing WRONG with playing video games in your free time.   We don't all ignore the people we care about, in fact a lot of times we go out of our way to INCLUDE them.  You obviously know very little about the gamer subculture as a whole.
 
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March 3, 2006, 6:56 am PST

03/02 Our Biggest Battle

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Please everyone remember it is different when you have children and you need to think about the future now.  Is it going to be okay with you all when you have children and you feel all alone in taking care of them?   

  

I would love to go in and just sit while my husband plays into the wee hours but reality is, I have to get up around 6 in the morning with two little ones and if I don't want to be severely grouchy I need a good amount of sleep so just sitting while he plays isn't an option if I want to take good care of my children and my home.   

 Actually in my case I already know I'm pretty much going to be dealing with kids pretty much by myself if I marry my current boyfriend.  However, that is TOTALLY fine with me because that means I don't have to share any of the decisions on how they are rasied, what activities, they do, etc....Of course considering some of the biological problems I have I may not be having children anyway.

I understand that your children's needs come first, but if you REALLy are that desperate to spend time with your husband and he isn't willing to give up video games, hat is something worth considering.
 
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March 3, 2006, 7:05 am PST

Gamer Culture

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 Yes, I agree.

The media dislikes games because it feels threatened by the compitition, and because it's slow to get into a new artform. It took a long time before people took Movies seriously, or rock music, or even some sports. At first people thought they were "childrens activities", but now everyone does them of all ages.

The average "gamer" is 31 years old. Yet, there is a vocal portion of the mainstream world left which still thinks games are immature toys, and use them as a scapegoat. There are comments like "winning the game" and "getting a high score" that makes me realise most people who bash games probably havent seen a game since PONG. It isnt a valid opinion.

The the husband wasnt addicted to 'gaming', he'd be watching TV or something. It isnt the game that's addicting, it's his wife that's loosing appeal, and he spends his time playing games both for the enlightenment, and to escape from her. Dont blame the games.
 Yeah, no kidding society doesn't really accept gaming as a whole.  I'm 24 and I play RPGs of all forms and I've had some prettty ridiculous genralizations made about me.  The funniest one was that I "worship the devil' because I play D&D and other tabletop roleplaying games.   People game for a TON of different reasons, my biggest reason is that it's an outlet for my creativity (especailly freeform style online roleplaying) that I can share with people who enjoy my company and are like-minded indiviuals and appreciate my personal style.

I think some people have a type of personality where they become easily ensnared and addicted to things.   I've met some people that have gone REALLY of the deep end with gaming and it is NOT pretty.

I think you're right about the media though.  I think alot of times it portrays a negitive image of gaming for it's own personal agenda.
 
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March 4, 2006, 5:26 pm PST

03/02 Our Biggest Battle

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It's not the gaming, it's allowing the gaming to take over your life, & control your life.  If it's hurting the people that you supposedly care about, then you should do something about it.  I play my own games on the internet, but I only allow myself to play until a certain time, then I quit, as I have to work each day.  Addicts will game to the exclusion of anything else.  I think the games are cool, just don't let them ruin your life.
I was basically  saying I get annoyed with the way mainstream society treats gamers in general.
 
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March 4, 2006, 5:33 pm PST

03/02 Our Biggest Battle

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Hi.  I'm not one to go off the deep end about gaming - I do it myself and, when kept in perspective, I think it can be fun and even helpful in certain areas. 

  

However, I'm not sure I understand your attitude about having kids.  Remember, kids will model their concepts about male/female relationships by what they see growing up.  If you give them a father who routinely checks out of the family, you're giving them some really strange dynamics to pattern themselves after. 

  

They won't use adult thinking to rationalize this behavior -- it will be all they know.   

 Well my thinking on it is I am far more qualified to raise children than my boyfriend is.   I enjoy children more, and I frankly would be a much better disciplinarian.   In my experience, having had some really BIZARRE family dynamics myself,  most children tend to adjust just fine when given the proper guidance and support by ONE adult in their life.  I don't feel like my children NEED 2 parents.  If I marry a guy that doesn't want to be involved in raising my children then that is fine, my children will get plenty of love and affection from me, and eventually they will be old enough to understand  their father's lack of ability to manage children.
 
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March 6, 2006, 11:22 am PST

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But I wasn't questioning your ability to parent.  Also, one of the most well adjusted kids and self confident kids I know is being raised by a single mom.  So it isn't a question of kids "needing" 2 parents.   

  

Maybe a better way to word it is that I think you're oversimplifying the situation.  You seem to think you'll be able to control when and how he does express interest in his kids, and that is almost never the case, especially when Dad is living in the same house.  At any point, your "right" to make decisions on behalf of the kids can be challenged by Dad...it isn't the same as being a single mom.  And you won't be able to resolve the conflict by telling him you're the primary caregiver, so his opinions don't matter as much.  He will not see it this way. 

  

my children will get plenty of love and affection from me, and eventually they will be old enough to understand  their father's lack of ability to manage children. 

 

This kind of gets back to my original  post.  Sure, they'll "understand" it conceptually, but during those younger years when they integrate the behaviors they see around them, this adult understanding doesn't mean that they will be able to examine their mindsets and pluck out all that is unhealthy -- when it's your own psyche, this is impossible to do. 

  

I don't mean to sound picky or overly-analytical!  I just react strongly when there are known serious issues in a relationship and people plow ahead and have kids, assuming somehow that everything will work out fine.   It rarely does, because there are too many "x" factors out there that have the potential to derail all your good intentions.   

  

This might be idealistic, but the single biggest choice a mother makes on behalf of her kids -- by far -- is who their father is.  And if you have significant questions about your boyfriend's parenting abilities, it strikes me as unfair to your future kids to not produce for them the best father you can find.   

  

  

 In my specific case my boyfriend already KNOWS that if I'm actually able to have kids, or decide I want to adopt kids he knows I'm the one that makes the decisions about things.  My boyfriend has pretty much come to the understanding that I'm the boss.  Our relationship is a benevolent dictatorship so to speak.  I make all the important decisions.  While I consider his feelings, and more often than not let him have his way about things, he knows that when it comes down to it I have the final say on pretty much everything in the relationship.  Which is why he is one of the few people I get along with nearly all the time.  So I'm pretty sure when it comes to kids I'll be getting my way about everything with him.

He is a very good person, he just has problems interacting with kids since he's a very logical person and children are NOT logical.  So he really just doesn't get how they think.  Where as I am very good at interacting with children.  So It's one of those things where we'll just have to see how it goes.
 
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March 6, 2006, 2:38 pm PST

Common misconceptions about the bi-polar condition

 I think one of the largest misconceptions that society has about this disease is that it has various levels and two major types, and one that goes hand in hand with the dignosis of schizoprenia.  The first type of bipolar is "bi polar without psychotic episodes" (Type1).  The second is "bi-polar with psychotic episodes"  (Type 2).  The third is "bipolar with psychotic episodes and symptoms of schizoprenia".  In the media we often see Type 2 and schizoprenia being portrayed, rather than Type1. 

Most of of the people diagnosed as Bi-Polar are not dangerous to others, they are more dangerous to themselves.   While some have reoccuring thoughts of killing people or hurting people, most do not act on them.  In fact most people experiencing these thoughts tend to be very upset by them.  Usually the highly dangerous people with mental illlness are the ones with anti-social personality disorder or attatchment disorders. or severe dementia.

The paranoid behavior of some bipolar patients is most likely an idicator of paranoid schizoprenia, and should be looked into accordingly.

Most people with Type 1 can live relatively normal lives, some even without medication.  Type 2 is more difficult to control, but with the proper treatment and medication and supervision of the condition, those afflicted with it can lead productive lives.  It is most difficult for schizophrenics with bi-polar disorder to function because the medications only even out the mood, and decrease psychotic episodes(which occur during the  ACTIVE PHASE), they do not deal with syptoms of the PASSIVE PHASE.

For their own safety some people should be institutionalized, but the need for this is very rare. 
 

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