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December 19, 2005, 5:38 am PST

I get it!

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YOU SAID IT, "HAPPY YOUNG PEOPLE." 

  

YOU ARE MARRIED!!!   GET REAL!!! 

  

YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE!!! 

   

TRY BEING 51, NEVER MARRIED, NO CHILDREN,  

GRADUATE DEGREE, NEVER DATED, NOT BLONDE, 

ETC, ETC, ETC. 

  

LIFE CAN BE HELL!!! 

  

BLUEANGEL777 

  

  

BLUEANGEL777 I read your post and I saw my potential future in it. I'm 31 instead of 51. My real name is Karen, and I think I saw somewhere that that is your name. I also use a series of number 7's in my username on certain websites.  

  

Some people obviously didn't get the dire tone of your post, but I did.  One person who reponded to your equally angry reply to the woman who suggested meeting men at your childs daycare didn't get your post. When you replied "NO KIDS!!!" he simply said it was like when someone suggests you get a dog to attract potential mates. He never realized the desperation in the post from a woman who is way past the point where she can have a family of her own.  Likewise when someone else replied to this post of yours they thought you were a MAN! Since when has having a graduate degree EVER been a hinderance to a mans ability to get married? But if you were a young woman getting yours back in the 1970's or early 80's a lot of men wouldn't have a stable enough ego to take you on. What man would even be this angry about never being married at 51 when they are the ones that control the course of a relationships and  especially marriage proposals. ONLY a woman would, 

  

I want to say THANK YOU for posting this message. I know it must have been dificult. I know several women around your age that have been without a partner for a long time or have never been married.   The ones I know always show themselves to be in good spirits.  If that is not how they really are and they are angry about it I wouldn't have enough evidence to draw that conclusion.  But your post opened my eyesand it should open other young womens eyes. We women in our 30's especially have a few "battle scars".   Most of our friends have been married for several years, and are having kids. We have been through enough bad relationships to be worn out and cynical. We have started having to answer the "why aren't you married" questions and some of our closest friends and family look down upon us.  Some of us have given up. We wear right hand rings and go to the movies alone. But I won't give up, and you have helped inspire me. Forgive me but I don't want to be that bitter 51 year old who maybe could have done something when she was 31 and didn't because ! 

  

P.S. Maybe you should consider adopting or fostering a child. 

 
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December 20, 2005, 4:56 am PST

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

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On Part 1 of Love Smart the gal with the dark hair that had her finger in the food?!  Remember?  Well, I want to know more about the date she had.  He was very intriguing to me.  Who or how do you suggest I go about this whole process?  Love to just email with him.....  Not in ANY hurry - just learning how to go about being a better me and live the best life I can! 

  

  

I THINK I'M GOING TO BE SICK! 

  

Handsome or not, this guy sat through the date, picked apart every stinking little thing his date did wrong, smirked very smugly throughout the date, and then SMIRKED again as he very confidently said he wouldn't go out with her again! The last statement being made after the woman admited her mistakes and attributed it to nervousness, prior bad relationships, and human nature!  Even if evaluating her dating style was his job, he didn't have to look like he enjoyed it so much.And he probably acted like this because he thinks he can because he is  the man and has control of the dating and doesn't have to do anything to impress. 

  

That date and the date where the beauty queen, after being treated to an awful date, still wanted to give her guy a second chance was the only moment of clarity in those whole two episodes. In other words the women are on pins and needles trying to impress ( no wonder they would be self consious) while the guy can do anything because he calls the shots and will be given a second date. 

  

You want that guy so bad? You can have him!  Just make sure to book your guest spot for the next Dr. Phil relationship problem show. SOME WOMEN NEVER LEARN! 

 
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December 20, 2005, 6:19 am PST

I understand

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I keep reading about people not being able to make it work, being cheated on, being dumped...But I bet every single one of you has at least one person in your life who wants to be in a relationship with you. 

  

I guess I'm single and alone just because I don't want any of the guys I've gon out with recently. I mean, I get asked out all the time. There are like six guys calling me on a regular basis, and here I am, alone. Sleeping alone, staying up WAY too late and reading about how much it sucks to be alone. Pathetic, huh? 

  

I read comments from people saying things like "I'm by no means a super-model" or regretting having given their "all" to a relationship because maybe it had something to do with being cheated on. They wonder "what's wrong with me????". And what did I do wrong??? 

  

Well, I have to give a newsflash. I know everyone is going to hate me for what I'm about to say, but I'm just trying to illustrate my point. 

  

All those problems like not feeling loved, not feeling secure, being with men who are only interested in sex, cheaters, liars, people who are just not that into you, etc., etc., etc.,  

Yeah, we all know those. Well, they have to do with the one being the creep and not the one getting their feelings hurt. Here is how I know this. 

  

I am 25 years old. 

I basically am a "supermodel". I mean, my mom was a bikini model and although I've chosen to work on what's inside and get a real career, I do have my mom's supermodel looks. 

All that means is I get hit on all the time. Men who do't even know me will saying anything to try to hook up with me. I get hit on by people who have nothing in common with me and aren't even interested in anything I do or have to say but the lie in hopes of getting a chance to sleep with me. 

I get hit on at work constantly, other people are always talking about me behind my back. I can't go out to a club without a date because I get mobbed by a bunch of drunk guys. There are many people in the world who will assume that a sexy girl is also dumb. People who have never even met me will talk to me like a child. 

  

All I'm saying is, being young and being gorgeous is not going to make your love life any better or any less painful. All it means is you have more creeps to sift through, and more guys have more motivation to lie to try to get in your pants. 

  

I recently had my heart broken. I fell completely in love with this guy who ended up confessing to me that he had a girlfriend, and that he is sorry and he knew it was wrong to lie o me but he "just couldn't NOT be with a woman like me if he had the chance". Of course I dumped him. But what really hurt was he took me all over town, he introduced me to EVERYONE, he made a huge deal of being all romantic and affectionate and holding me and protecting me from other guys and everything. Now if this wasn't just about how I look and how much he wanted to sleep with me, then he wouldn't have showed me off and made so much effort. The part that really hurts is that I thought he was doing that because he really liked me and wanted a relationship with me. But no, he liked that he had this gorgeous girlfriend on the side.  

  

If it's true love you're looking for, looks have NOTHING to do with it. It just gives people something to use you for. And it gets you alot more than your fair share of stalkers. 

  

P.S. I know I mentioned that I get hit on at work all the time and that people gossip about me. So you might wonder what I wear to work. Here it is: Dark navy blue button down with badge and Paramedic county patches, company issue trousers and combat boots. It's not like I flirt or have a sexy job or wear sexy clothes. That's all I'm saying.  

  

I know how bitter I sound. But I want to find true love. How do you know if a guy really even sees you or cares about you or respects you if tons of guys are acting like they do just to see if they can get you into bed? 

  

Thanks for bearing with me. I probably sound like a complete brat. I guess I'm just so tired of being alone, and yet never being left alone. 

  

ANyone have an opinion on his? SImilar experience? 

I understand your point completly. Its not like I look anything like a supermodel, but I know what you are talking about. Pretty women don't nessisarily get better guys, they just get the interests of lots of guys. Its up to them to sift through all those guys and find the one that really loves them for who they are. I heard this quote in a movie based on someones real life once, she said her mother said "It takes a smart woman to fall in love with a good man". That is so true.
 
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January 5, 2006, 8:39 pm PST

You are right

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Being single BLOWS.  It means you are lonely, your sex life is erratic and there is no constant.  Marriage is completely the opposite-if you do it the old-fashioned way.
I have read your posts all over these message boards and I hope I can find love and get married before I become THAT cynical.  But as far as this statement you made goes, I would have to say you are right.  I just don't think you should have posted it in this forum. This forum is for those who are trying to make themselves believe that they are happy being single. So you should respect their space.
 
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January 5, 2006, 8:45 pm PST

??????

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Hello! My name is Judy. I am 31 yrs old. I am still single. I am from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. I am fairly new to calgary. I have lived here about 6 months and I dont have any single friends to go out and do stuff with. I have tried speed dating and online dating and I have had no luck finding my true love. I was wondering if there is any single woman  that would be interested getting together for movies and other stuff. I hope to hear from you soon. My email is: jlomayer@shaw.ca 

Judy 

Are you a lesbian or are you just looking for other single straight women to be pals with. Im 31 and in California and single and frustrated but I'm looking for a MAN.   Maybe we can communicate.
 
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January 11, 2006, 5:58 am PST

Do you think you have something to loose?

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I am an intelligent 31 y/o single mother of 2, I work full-time, go to college full-time and am soley responsible for my 2 sons (6,11).  My problem is with my ex. About a year ago we started seeing each other again after a 2 year separation. But early into our new venture he tells me that he is "confused about what he wants in his life". Mind you this never stopped him from telling me that he loved me or that he only wanted to be with me, but just couldn't give me a relationship or commitment.  So I MADE excuses for him and decided to give us time, afterall we couldn't just fall back into a serious relationship... Then after all of this I discovered that he was seeing me and several other women whom all thought that he was only with them and he was telling them that he loved them too. I was devestated.  And then he see sawed back and forth between me and another woman, finally choosing her. Again I was hurt and agnry and vowed to never speak to him again, but when that relationship failed (1 month later) he wanted to come back into my life, but not as a boyfriend, but just dating me...AGAIN I made excuses,  we can just take our time, all he needs is time, he really loves me and he'll realize it sooner than later. But like the setting of the sun, after some detective work, I found out that he was "dating" a whole new batch of women. I have to tell you without sounding like a complete idiot I saw the signs, and I was expecting it, but without proof I didn't want to belive it.  Again I listented to his exucess that he was still confused and that old habits are hard to break. That he knows that he wants to be a family again, but he is having a hard time changing his ways. Now he is proffessing that he is a changed man and I just don't believe it...I find holes in his lies every which way I turn, but he flipps it on me and makes me feel like I am overreacting. 

  

Any way my question is this, why is it so hard for me to give him the boot? Why after everything can't I let him go? I know in my heart he is not changed and at this very moment he lied to me about going out with his friends to a bar and I ran into these friends at the movies and now he conviently won't answer his phone. But I digress, after all the lies and deception what is my problem? I make excuses for him and try to play him up for my family. I make excuses like "I know that he really isn't this man" and "I know he loves me and one day he will wake up and realize it".  

  

Mostly I am frusterated with myself. WHen I finally get the courage to tell him to take a hike, my fear of being alone creeps in and I am stuck. Will anyone ever want me? Where will I ever meet anyone. I am so jealous of him and her (whoever she is) that he has someone while I am sitting alone at home with his children... 

  

How do I do this? How do I stop excuseing this behavior from myslef and him and get on with my life and throw away the fear? 

  

You are afraid of being alone?  

  

YOU ARE ALONE.  So are all his other women at some point. HE is the one who is never alone. 

  

Will you find someone? 

  

Not as long as you are distracted by your kids father.  Trying to make him into a prince takes up so much of your energy that you don't have time to find a real nice guy. 

  

Will anyone ever want you? 

  

"Anyone" has already had you. How about giving SOMEBODY (special) the pleasure of getting to know you. 

  

Jealous that he has someone? 

  

Apparently he is having EVERYONE in sight. To be jealous of him having someone means that you would have to be jealous of him having SOMETHING. There is nothing there, no substance, no nothing. 

  

Jealous of his other woman? 

  

Give others something to be jealous of. How about being one of the few lucky women in your neighborhood with your own man. And a husband at that. 

  

None of this can come true if you hang on to your kids father. 

 
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January 15, 2006, 2:30 am PST

Oh yeah I feel ya!

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Ok, TOBS..............I haven't heard much on here in a while and I'm home on a Sat night! (sigh) I had somewhere to go but just didn't feel like going anywhere tonight. ......so I stayed in. 

I just have a question for my TOBS!  

Let me set this up! 

I voluteered this year to learn Christmas music, attend rehearsals, and sing in 11 services (4 on Christmas Eve) because I love to sing, wanted to be of service at Christmas time and give back to God for the talent he gave me!  I'll be reeping what I sew right? Rewards are coming???  

Sure! 

I come home to my apt exhausted after 11 services and crash in my bed about 10pm.  About 2:30 a.m.................................I hear female sex noises loud and clear and they wake me up out of a dead sleep!@!%$#   

I remember thinking...................."Come ON!!! Just get IT over with!!! For the love of God finish! I can't even remember how to spell sex............and she's hitting high Gs up above me. I sing in 11 services.............. and this is what I get???? 

Remember I'm being sarcastic w/all that I say................trying to make a joke out of it! 

But really, does this happen to any other TOBS out there??? Do you have to listen to others getting busy while you lay awake wishing you could fit tube socks in your ears? They wake me up regularly at random hours! They woke me up this morning. I even know he goes to the bathroom right afterwards............... I know that's when peace is restored!  

Any suggestions? 

  

I have never had the misfortune ( I guess, lol) of being able to hear neighbors have sex but I understand your point ,irony, sarcasm, and all. I'm assuming that you do want to have a partner and a great relationship someday right? 

  

Well I know how it can be. You try to have a fulfilling life even if you are single. You do things like sing in choirs. If you are religious you try to do what you are supposed to do according to your religion and also try to have faith that you will have someone special some day. You rely on your religion for strength in the tough times.  Then WHAM! Something happens to cause you to come crashing down!  You pass a bridal shop.  You meet a cool guy then find out he's married. ANOTHER one of your friends gets married.  You have a bad first date.  And hey, sometimes you even overhear a woman enjoying great sex while you are in your bed by yourself! 

  

It can be hard to keep your head up. I know it is for me sometimes.  I was just thinking to myself "How do nuns do it?!" But then I remembered, they don't EXPECT to have a love life as long as they keep their careers. Silly me! 

  

But I think the best thing you can do if you don't want to be single is be honest with yourself. If you go over to the "love being single" board I think you would find a lot of very suspiciously "happy" posts.  There is nothing wrong with needing someone, or admiting to as much. You don't have to show  to the world that you are desperate. But  at least be honest with yourself. That's the only way you can fight for what you want. 

 
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January 22, 2006, 5:38 pm PST

Keep telling YOURSELF that...

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Michelle needs to grow up and get on with life.  Dr. Phil may not know any wives who would put up with this situation, but I do.   M E !!!   Dr. Phil is dead wrong.  My husband has a number of female friends.  He has taken them riding on his motorcycle, left the house on the weekend to go help them with car trouble, asked me to make them a cake or pie for their birthday or when they were upset, met them when he was staying in Daytona for bike events, etc.  I have met some of them, but am only friends with one.  They have come to our home when I was at work.  It doesn't bother me at all.  I have men who I work with that my husband has never met.  They call me after work and on weekends to talk about work, etc..  He would never answer my cell phone and I don't answer his.  I trust him to tell me if there is something going on that I need to know about.  He trusts me to tell him.  He tells me if they come by the house, so I don't hear about it from the neighbors, or if I do, I already know.  It is all about trust.  Either you love your spouse and trust them or you don't.  It all sounds like a lot of insecurity to me.

For ALL the people on this board who have called Michelle insecure, I think the insecure one is you. You are just mad at Michelle for bringing the SAME problem YOU HAVE to your attention and that of Dr. Phil's audience, otherwise you wouldn't be posting here with your stories of your spouses friends. Are you trying to convince yourself that everything is ok? 

  

Sure there is nothing wrong with having friends of the opposite sex. I'll even go as far as to say that friendships with ex's are ok. But there is something not right about not letting spouses or even other family members meet these people at least once unless they live out of town.    

  

I even know some of the friends of my relatives. I went to my aunts friends daughters wedding. IF IT SOUNDS COMPLICATED IT IS!  I didn't even know this girl ,but her mother had been at birthday parties and other family functions as a guest of my aunt. 

  

Once when I was in college I ran into a friends cousin on campus and we stoped and spoke for a minute. HOW DID I KNOW HER?  I met her at my friends birthday party.   

  

So there is definately something wrong when your spouse is purposely not allowing for any scenario in which you and their friends are in the same room at the same time. IT DOESN"T MAKE SENSE.   With birthdays, holidays, and other special occasions that someone would want to spend with ALL of the important people in their lives together. Unless someone lives very far away. 

  

It is even more bizzare that none of these so called friends were at the wedding!  HECK, HALF THE TIME A PERSONS FRIENDS ARE STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO THEM IN A HORRIBLE TUX OR BRIDESMAIDS DRESS WHEN THEY GET MARRIED much less not even being present at all!  But people do ditch weddings when they are jealous or object to the wedding. 

  

Either way none of it makes sense. This dosen't mean Matthew , or you guys spouses are bad.  But trust and security are not the issues. Common sense and normal behavior is, and "secret friends" are not normal. 

 
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January 22, 2006, 6:56 pm PST

You CAN'T be serious?

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Matthew and Michelle won't last.  I just hope MIchelle isn't one of those women who feels she has to get pregnant in order to hold on to a man.  I could tell how uncomfortable Matthew felt about being on the who; he's probably going to resent Michelle even more and turn to his lady friends.  Matthew said that he can't talk about some things with MIchelle.  I can relate to that. Black men have a tendency to date white women as an "In Your Face" to white men more than anything else.  I have six brothers and I listen to their conversations with their friends in order to get better insight into men, and they all agree that black men need to know that black women will be waiting in the wings when and if things don't work out with their encounters with white society.  That's why black men get so upset when they see black women involved with white men.   

  

Michelle should focus on finding a career and friends of her own.  Even if Matthew's lady friends do meet her, she'll probably still find reasons not to like them.  Matthew was honest with his wife;  he told her that he had female friends, so she really walked into the situation.  Trying to control her husband now will ultimately unlesh surpressed feelings regarding his experiences living in a very  white authoritative country.         

"Black men have a tendency to date white women as an "In Your Face" to white men more than anything else" 

  

Sorry if this is going off subject but I just had to respond to this. 

  

I'm a black woman too and I just see us sticking our heads in the sand way to much about black men dating white women, and it only hurts us in the end. 

  

If this is an "In Your Face" campaign it must not be working very well. I can only speak for my experiences, yours may be different. But it's gotten to the point now where what I hear from most white people (male and female) who would consider themselves not racist is that they fully EXPECT a good black man to have a wife of another race.  Only racist whites are upset about it.   Furthermore, white men have had no problems picking up the slack by having  relationships with Asians, Latinas, and so forth.   

  

Also your post is full of the typical myths about such relationships: 

  

The relationship won't work. The woman has to do things to hold on to the man. The man will resent the woman. The reason he can't talk to her is because they aren't of the same race. The relationship is an "In your face to whites". The man uses the relationship to "enter" white society. The woman isn't strong or doesn't have a life of her own. The woman knew or should have known what she was getting into. There are suppressed feelings from the man towards the wife, but they really have to do with White society as a whole and not just her. 

 
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January 26, 2006, 6:34 pm PST

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"Furthermore, white men have had no problems picking up the slack by having  relationships with Asians, Latinas, and so forth" 

  

Thank you... I live in texas...and I've noticed a lot of white men dating black women lately. So if it's happening in a conservative state like this, it's allllll gooodd! It's all a matter of education, you figure out what biologically makes us white or black or olive or yellow, and you read what your bible says about race (the whole verse and not part of it), you start realizing that all the other "stuff" is things that we as society have added. 

I'm glad that you liked my message, but I have a little difference of opinion from yours.  

  

In my opinion, though you do see some white men dating black women, the quality of a lot of those relationships aren't that substantial.  I see a lot of those relationships as the white men dating and "playing around" with black women and then MARRYING someone white or some other race. If thats all thats happening  then it is not much different than whats been going on for hundreds of years. Only difference is that the man can publicly call the woman his girlfriend.  

  

But on the other hand the black men are marrying the white women. Studies have shown that interacial relationships are pretty even between men and women of all races except Asians and Blacks. In the case of Asians, the women do it more than the men.  In the case of Blacks, the men do it more than the women.  This leaves Asian men and Black women as that least like to get married in this country. 

 

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