Messages By: moodymitzy

All I was trying to tell her was that if she hates it here then she can go back to her home country. Maybe you are not planning world domination but there are a lot of Muslims that are. They have said so.

Muslims are commanded to convert all to Islam and if someone refuses, they have permission (and are doing Allah a service) by killing them. This is where the 70 virgins in Heaven is promised.   Also, Muslims are allowed to "lie" to everyone EXCEPT other Muslims.

Muslims are commanded to convert all to Islam and if someone refuses, they have permission (and are doing Allah a service) by killing them. This is where the 70 virgins in Heaven is promised.   Also, Muslims are allowed to "lie" to everyone EXCEPT other Muslims.

With that being said I cannot believe you. I cannot believe any muslim unless I meet them in person and then maybe I will be able to tell if they are lying to me or not. I cannot tell anything over the internet.

As for #2 that had something to do with someone elses conversation not mine I did not mean to even quote that part.

Do not take it personally when someone on here says otherwise. There are a lot people on these boards that like to jump all over the people who say anything bad about Muslims or the middle east. You know it is funny that if a Christian did some bad things then all of these people who say we should not generalize would be the ones bashing all Christians.

This is to all those who want to comment saying we are generalizing too much.

Yes we all know it is not all of the Arabic countries that treat women badly. Yes we all know that not all muslims hate and want to kill. Yes we all know that not all of them beat their wives.

WE ARE NOT SAYING ALL!!!!!

We are saying that there are a lot of them.

ALso we are NOT saying that is doesn't happen here of in other countries as well. We all know that it happens everywhere. Do not even get me started on some Afirican countries that still believe in circumsizing women. All we can say is that at least America has laws against abuse. Not all Arabic countries do.

-- Any children born to the wife will be considered Muslim. They will usually also be considered citizens of the father's country.

-- The husband's permission is always needed for the children to leave an Islamic country despite the fact that the children will also have, for example, American citizenship. Foreign immigration authorities can be expected to enforce these regulations. The ability of U.S. consular officers to aid an American woman who wishes to leave the country with her children is very limited.

-- The wife may be divorced by her husband at any time with little difficulty and without a court hearing.

-- At a certain point in age, the children will come under the custody of the father or his family.

-- In Islamic countries, the wife will need the permission of her husband to leave the country.

-- The first is guardianship of upbringing, which is overseen by women during the age of dependence. The age at which this period of dependence terminates varies: anywhere from 7 years for a son and 9 for a daughter to 9 and 11, respectively. In the case of divorced parents, it is permissible for a daughter to remain with her mother if the parents agree. But such an agreement cannot be made for a son.

-- The second is the child's spiritual guardianship. The spiritual guardian may be the father or a fullblooded male relative of the father.

-- The third is guardianship over the child's property which usually is carried out by the father.

PERSONS CONTEMPLATING SUCH MARRIAGES SHOULD GIVE SERIOUS CONSIDERATION TO THE POTENTIAL DIFFICULTIES DESCRIBED IN THIS PAMPHLET.

The bible does not hold women higher to men. In the Old Testiment women wereunder men because of what Eve had done. In the New Testiment after Jesus died everyone is to be treated equally.

I am not brain washed. I had quoted few parts of the Quaran to show people that they do think women inferior to men. I have also found out that like the Bible it says for men to respect their wives and for women to respect their husbands.it seems that Quaran contradicts itself.

Daniel Pipes Explains 'Islamism'

Though neutral on Islam, I take a strong stand on Islamism, which I see as very different. Islam is the religion of the Qur'an and the Sunna; Islamism is the political path of Hasan al-Banna, Abu'l-A`la al-Mawdudi, and Ayatollah Khomeini. The former is (in the Muslim view) eternal or (in the non-Muslim view) fourteen centuries old; the latter is a twentieth-century phenomenon. The one is a faith, the other an ideology. Whereas the closest parallels to Islam are Judaism and Christianity, those closest to Islamism are other radical utopian "isms," namely fascism and Marxism-Leninism.

Islamism is a global affliction whose victims count peoples of all religions. Non-Muslims are losing their lives to it in such countries as Nigeria, Sudan, Egypt, and the Philippines. Muslims are the main casualties in Algeria, Turkey, Iran, and Afghanistan. Islamism is perhaps the most vibrant and coherent ideological movement in the world today; it threatens us all. Moderate Muslims and non-Muslims must cooperate to battle this scourge.

(a) American Islam has enormous positive potential. Since encountering modernity two centuries ago, Muslims have had a difficult time figuring out how to adapt their religion to it. Kemal Atatürk of Turkey represents one school of thought - exclude Islam from every aspect of public life. The Taliban in Afghanistan represent the opposite extreme - subject every aspect of life to what are believed to be Islamic injunctions. There are plenty of other viewpoints between these two, such as those represented by the Ba`th Party, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and the Libyan Jamahariya. American Muslims, who live at the very heart of modernity, may be able to make the grand reconciliation of Islam with modernity that has eluded their coreligionists elsewhere. If they do succeed at this, they could have a vast and highly beneficial impact on Muslim life around the world.

(b) The Nation of Islam is disappearing. The Nation of Islam is not just the organization headed currently by Louis Farrakhan but a complex body of institutions that since 1913 have gone by many names (Moorish Science Temple of America, Allah's Temple of Islam, Five Percenters, etc.) and featured a number of outsized personalities (Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X, Muhammad Ali). The historic role of this institution is to create a substantial body of African-American converts to Islam (at present, they number about one million). With the passage of time, the odd, folkloristic, and distinctly non-Islamic qualities of the NoI are fading. I predict that Farrakhan is its last leader with a national presence and that the organization is destined to disappear or to merge with real Islam.

(c) American Islam faces a crisis of extremism. This is the issue that has brought my work to the attention of American Muslims and caused organizations like CAIR to accuse me of being an "Islamophobe" who promotes "anti-Muslim hysteria."

CAIR and the others reacted to my articles that warn Americans (including Muslims) that the main organizations of American Islam are Islamist. I hold that this spells trouble for Muslims and for the general American population. Perhaps the most important area of conflict has to do with secularism: the Islamist agenda is overtly one of applying the Shari`a, even though this is in direct conflict with the Constitution of the United States. Other major problems concern the Islamists' anti-Christian and anti-Jewish sentiments, their support for radical groups abroad, and their readiness to intimidate and to use violence.

Fortunately, Islamists constitute only a minority of Muslims living in the United States. Unfortunately, they dominate the mosques, schools, publications, and national organizations in this country. Worse, whenever a non-Islamist leader speaks up about this undue influence, the Islamists try to delegitimate him or silence him through threats.

The Islamists' approach is deeply antithetical to the American way and so, I predict, that as they and their work became better known, major problems will follow, and these will first of all affect the American Muslim population. My urgent hope is that moderate Muslims get involved in communal affairs and take interest in these matters, and so to redeem the Muslim institutions from the extremists' control.

I keep hearing from Muslims that they are peaceful and only a few extremist believe to hate,lie, and kill.

What I hear from everyone else is that most Muslims are taught to hate and kill.

what I want to know is what percentage of Muslims are extremist? They say that there is only a small percentage but I hear from everywhere else is that it is the way almost all of them think.

I am trying to look up and find the percentage but all I keep finding are articles of different terrorist attacks and threats. If they are a small group then why am I reading about so many of them?

I am seeking truth, because if the majority of Muslims are taught to hate then there is a good reason why people are judging all of them. If it really is a small percentage then I will be the firs to admit that I should not generalize and be prejudice.

On Muslim web sites, for instance there are stark warnings to Muslims to watch out for persecution in free nations. They are instructed step by step how to report any discrimination and then press for immediate, accurate action.

However, when Christians are slain in a Muslim country such as Egypt, it’s over and out for the Christians. Another life lost. So it goes. It’s just another "Christian story."

Muslim "aliens"? True. They are misfits. For instance, on TheReligionOfPeace.com, there is a picture of a tiny Muslim girl locked in chains around her ankles. This little Muslim girl is being tutored at a young age how to obey extremist Muslim males. She has misbehaved, that is, according to her elders; therefore, she is put in chains. They expect her to learn how to conform immediately to every directive as she grows older. If not, she will pay severely.

Females are treated worse than dung in some Islamic territories. For instance, a 4-year-old Muslim girl is offered in marriage to settle a "sex crime," per Mansoor Mirani of Dawn.com, the Internet Edition. "Four-year-old Sapna, daughter of Khadim Hussain, (is presented) in compensation marriage to Abid, 10, son of Ghous Bux" in order to bring peace to a dispute.

Factually women are not considered significant unless, for example, used in extremist Muslim male bartering for a number of "reasons."

There are multitudinous examples of Muslim females being tortured or murdered by extremist Muslim males who conclude the females get out of line. Many times these accusations are only in the extremist males’ imaginations. Definite proof never needs to be provided in order for a Muslim female to endure maiming or killing.

This week Diane Sawyer gives news from her present-tense visit in Iran. On the one hand, she reports Muslim women who appear somewhat liberated. Yet all females, including non-Muslims visiting Iran, must wear the headgear. That includes Diane Sawyer.

On the other hand, she reports that outside the cities women are stoned to death. Of course, it is walking the tight rope for her to give data straightforwardly while inside Iranian borders. If she missteps, she could put her own safety in jeopardy.

Facts are that in Iran and other Muslim nations often females gamble with their futures for stepping over the line as defined according to extremist male boundaries.

Per Roni Singer-Heruti of Haaretz.com, "The discovery of the body of 19-year-old Hamda Abu-Ganem in her home in the Ramle neighborhood of Juarish didn't surprise Ramle Police Superintendent Yigal Ezra. Although many people, including Ezra, tried to help Abu-Ganem run from the fate that awaited her, she remained in her parents' house - and became the seventh woman in her family to be murdered in an ‘honor killing’ in as many years.

"’A few young criminals in Juarish set up a group that decides which of the women has violated the honor of the family,’ said Ezra. ‘For instance, if a woman spoke to someone on a cell phone, or laughed with a man, that is sometimes considered a violation of the family honor, from their perspective. They plan how the murder will take place, who will carry it out and even find an alibi for the murderer. From the moment someone is marked, there is no way out.’"

Move now to Multan, Pakistan’s report: "About 4,000 people, mostly women, have been killed in deeply conservative rural Pakistan in recent years in the name of protecting family honor when there are allegations of an illicit sexual relationship," per AFP as reported by Khaleej Times Online.