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July 2, 2006, 8:13 am PDT

Don't even think about it....

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Looking to others here... for your wisdom.. I am 39 years old and a mother of 5. This year marks our 19th anniversary however we have not lived together for the last 4 years.  I asked my husband to leave 4 years ago after learing that my husband had tried several times to be intimate wth my mother while I was in the hospital with our daughter.  I was going to file for divorce but due to some serious health issues him and I have encountered, this was not done.  Our marriage has been anything but blissful,  problems arose quickly (within the first 6 months) and have continued throughout.  He has abused me physically, sexually, and emotionally.. He has been involved with other women and has tried to be intimate with anyone female who has been close to me, from friends, relatives, babysitters etc.. He lacked responsibility and in turn that put many of the family and household burdens onto me.  There was so much dishonesty, unfaithfulness, trickery, unhandedness etc.... I figured once a spade always a spade.. Recently he has decided and claims that he has thought long and hard and came to the conclusion I and the family is what he is wanting.. The other women and his 'old' way of life are history and wants to start to rebuild our relationship.. I tell him I need to see a year of continued change before I am even willing to agree to work on our relationship.. for the past 8 months he has been telling me he is totally committed to me and will do what it takes to be the kind of husband I want and deserve.... however just 6 weeks ago I learned that he was contacted by a gal from a adult singles site asking if he was still looking.. he replied by saying.. yes still looking and listed his phone number.. I asked him about this and he claims it was 'impulse' however... he replied to her twice.. must have been a strong impulse..

      So of course he is claiming now it will never happen again.. but the way I see it.. if he was committed to working on it for the past 8 months it should never of happened 6 weeks ago.. 

  I feel the right thing to do is move on.. divorce and find myself and be happy.. but what if.. what if he can change what if we can be happy what if we can have the relationship we both are so looking for? 

     I have brought up divorcing and working on our selves.. then in a years time looking at how things are and seeing about getting involved with one another again.. he tells me if I file he considers it permanent.. Am I crazy to think this man can change?  18 years of bad history ought to be enough.. I am just wanting to be happy.. 

 I have been diagnosed with some serious medical conditions and my quality of time left is limited.. I just want what I do have left to be the best.... do I love him? I love him but am not in love with him, I have lost respect for sure.. could I love him again? I don't know.. Thanks..  

If it didn't work out the first time, it probably won't work out the second time and probably for the same reasons.  He has already proven himself to be a liar and a cheater. Also, you said he was abusive and lacking in family responsibilities.  If you are not in love with him and do not respect him it is not likely that you will come to love him again.  But then, why even go there?  I know you have 5 children to think of but they will be better off with you not being with a man who has been such low life. Think of the example he is setting for your children.  Will they grow up to treat their spouses the way he has treated you?  Or will they be the doormat to be trampled on as you have been?  Spend your quality time with your children and if someone, other than your ex, comes along maybe you can find happiness with him.  But, you are better off alone than in an abusive relationship. 
 
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August 14, 2007, 2:55 pm PDT

Daughter won't let me see my grandchildren

My daughter was telling me that her husband was not working much and sometimes they did not have enough money for groceries. Sometimes she would ask me for money for gas and I would meet her at the pump and fill it up. She was planning to leave and get a divorce after getting back the income tax refund. I was supportive of her plans until.....her brother kept telling me "It is not John, it is Mary" (not the real names) Finally I got him to tell me what he meant. "Mary" was having an affair with an old high school flame. Now, back 20 years ago my daughter dated him a couple of times until I found out that he was 23 instead of 18, she was 16 at the time. Also he had a rap sheet "as long as your arm".  Her dad and I did not allow her to date him anymore. One night, back then, I found him in her room. She ran away with him and was missing for a week. Okay, now back to this year. I never said a word to Mary about knowing that she was having an affair but she suspected that my son had told me. She came to hate him for having told me even tho I had never said anything about it. I sat on that info for 4 months. I no longer was encouraging about leaving her husband. I said maybe she could try to work it out with him. And it would hurt the kids if they split up.The lover whom I will call James, was in prison. He had been in a work release situation and she would sneak off to the place he was working to see him. She provided him with a cell phone which her husband was unknowingly paying for and the prisoner was not supposed to have. I found out that her plan was to be divorced by the time James was released and she would go to pick him up the day of release and then go to Florida and get married.

Well, for some reason she did not leave the husband but after James got out of prison, she was going "to WalMart" or somewhere every evening after the husband went to work on second shift. She would be gone for 4- 6 hours. I got to investigating and found her car at "James" mother's house. In the meantime, her 16 year old son was getting tired of her going off every night and leaving them on their own. He suspected that she had a boyfriend. Also the 11 year old daughter and her 10 year old girlfriend were figuring it out. She was getting very bold. Oh yes I forgot to mention that the daughter had found some letters from the boyfriend to Mary. She brought them to the living room where she asked "Mom, who is James?" The husband was there and heard it.  Mary said she only wrote to him because she felt sorry for him. The husband was very suspiciuous. I mean the writing was on the wall!! I was so afraid she would take my grandchildren and be with the boyfriend. Finally, I told the husband "If Mary leaves, don't let her take the kids." I only wanted to protect the children. My son was molested as a child and I did not want anything to happen to the grandchildren like that. The girl is 11 and just ripe for some lowlife to take advantage of.  Also, there is a 6 year old grandson who knows none of this. He would come and spend most Friday nights with me.

It turned out that she was lying to me about not having enough money for food. As for not having enough for gas.... well it takes a lot of money to run up and down the road to see a man. Also, the husband told me she was bouncing a lot of checks and when his pay was direct deposited, most of it was taken up immediately. She does not work. They lost their house last year and moved back into the small two bedroom trailer that they had when first married. I think she should have gotten off her butt and gone to work.

Well, now she will not let me see my grandchildren. She has told her husband that I told lies on her. He should see through it tho because I did not know about the letters til he told me about that. At first he thanked me for telling him. But now he will not talk to me. He had promised that he would not let her take the kids away from me. But when she says "jump" he says "how high". So I can not see my grandchildren. But maybe I kept them from being taken to someone who would harm them. I do love my daughter but I do not like what she has done. Any advice? Please pray for me and my situation.  Pat

 
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April 26, 2008, 3:44 pm PDT

A Barack and McCain...

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   I live in an unimportant state:  Idaho.  It is a LOT more Republican than Georgia.  Sometimes, a hundred  people attend our Democratic caucus.  Did you happen to see what happened out here this year?   Five thousand people had to be turned away because there was no room.  86% of them voted for Barack Obama!   

     Throughout the country, we have not seen this kind of enthusiasm for any candidate since Robert Kennedy. 

     Barack reminds me of all the things I loved about Bobby:  opposition to the War, health care, honesty and justice in politics.  "Because The Dream NEVER Dies!" 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Obama talks about change, but what exactly does he plan to change? And how? My guess is that the majority of the crowd who turned out for the caucus in your state were Black people who had never turned out before for any political candidate. Obama is getting the Black vote and the vote of White men who do not want a woman in the White House. Seems to me that there is far more predjudice toward women than toward Blacks.

 

 

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