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December 22, 2005, 5:49 pm PST

Can someone recommend a book for me?

Hello, this is my first message here, although I have been a Dr. Phil fan for many months.  I'm trying to find a book about supporting a depressed/occasionally suicidal adult friend.  See, I've searched on the Internet and at my local library, and all the books I could find were aimed at teenagers helping other teenagers.  While some of the information given in those books is helpful, a lot of it is not.  For example, telling me that my friend's depression is getting worse if his grades start going down is pretty worthless, considering he hasn't been to school in years.  It just seems to me that society is focused on teen suicides, and it doesn't pay enough attention to adults who are suicidal.  Maybe because it's especially tragic when a person dies at such a young age, but whatever the reason, I'm a bit stuck trying to find a book that can give me good advice.  Can somebody offer me a suggestion?  Thank you so much, and I look forward to chatting with a lot of you.
 
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December 24, 2005, 12:10 pm PST

Hmmm...more repeats

I hope they have some new episodes soon.  I guess Dr. Phil must be on vacation or something. 
 
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January 3, 2006, 5:10 pm PST

Catching up

profreien- The sites you found for me are very helpful, thank you very much! 

  

newleaf85- I read your story and I'm really glad that you are doing well now, and that you are trying to live more positively.  I wish you the best of luck!  

 

  

 
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January 7, 2006, 7:10 pm PST

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Reallylost- Thank you for posting those poems.  The one Please see me through my tears is especially true, since a lot of people ask "How are you?" as a conversation starter and don't really expect to listen to someone pouring their heart out.   

  

On a more serious note, I'm really sorry to hear about your husband.  If you feel up to reading a book about it, I would recommend No Time to Say Goodbye: Surviving the Suicide of a Loved One by Carla Fine.  I read it a few months ago (for research mainly, I can't say that I've been through the horrible ordeal that you have). but it has some good information and a lot of stories from other people who have been through the same thing.  It also has an index with support groups for survivors of suicide.  The book was made in the early 90's, so the phone numbers probably aren't right, but the places should still exist.   

  

Hope this helps! 

 
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January 8, 2006, 1:56 pm PST

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I have been trying to find a book on grieving the suicide of a spouse.  

I see many of kids, but nothing on spouses.  

  

thank you very much.  

Well, Dr. Phil did a show this past summer, and one of the guests had a husband who committed suicide and Dr. Phil had some good advice for her.  If you didn't see that episode, here is a hyperlink.  If the hyperlink doesn't work, you can go to Show Archives and it's under July 2005. 

  

http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/495 

 
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January 9, 2006, 10:17 am PST

About today's show

In the first segment with Tiffany, Scott, and Kimmy, I was kind of disappointed that he didn't talk about Kimmy's accusations that Tiffany was negligant.  Some of the things Kimmy said disturbed me, like how one of the boys had 10 cavities and the other had 8.  From the time we were really little, my mom always taught my sister and I to brush regularly.  So far, I haven't gotten any cavities (knock on wood), and my sister has had only 1.  I don't think Tiffany is a negligant mother, but I think there's definately some things she can improve on, and I'm miffed that Dr. Phil didn't mention it.  Maybe Dr. Phil thought Kimmy made it up.  Maybe Kimmy did make it up.  Who knows??  But Dr. Phil could have at least addressed it.
 
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January 16, 2006, 8:06 pm PST

reallylost, are you around?

I think about you every time I come to the message boards, and I'm a little worried that you haven't posted in almost a week.  I hope you're doing OK.  Stay in touch, there's people here who care about you. :) 

 
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January 23, 2006, 10:01 am PST

bobby and mike

If Mike has an issue with his weight now because his wife keeps giving him the food she can't finish, here's an easy solution: make less food!   
 
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January 29, 2006, 2:04 pm PST

Uhhh...

Polyfidelity??!  I'm pretty sure that's called infidelity.  Charles has got to be kidding.  I hope Dr. Phil tears him a new one.
 
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February 1, 2006, 11:49 am PST

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I feel I need to put my thoughts out on this subject, as so many people are quick to call Polyamory just another form of cheating. This is the furthest thing from the truth.  Polyamory is best described as a belief system. I believe that it is possible to have ethical, open, nonmonogamous relationships with more than one person.

 I also feel  that most people who have been in a relationship where their partner felt the need to see someone else would agree that it was done in secret. In true polyamorous relationships, there are immense amounts of communication, discussion and caring for all people involved.

 It is often said that there are as many ways to do poly as there are people. I know groups who practice polyfidelity where both the man and the woman have other partners; I am friends with a triad of a man and two women who are raising 2 children. One of my partners has a sister that is in a male/female/female triad. They have been together for 10 years and currently raising 3 1/2 yr old twins. I myself have been poly for as long as I can remember. I have been practicing poly for the last 6 years and am involved with 3 men, one of which I live with and will handfast with this Spring. We attend family dinners every week with other members of our tribe, and will be taking a trip this weekend with one of my lovers and two more of his loves. I can think of no better way to improve the world than to be open to love and affection in all its forms.

 I would never tell someone that monogamy is wrong. Why do people feel that they can tell me MY relationship structure is wrong, just because it doesn't work for them? Poly is NOT for everyone, and neither is monogamy. Poly is also NOT about sex, which is what people tend to get hung up on. Our country has some very warped ideals about sexuality and being sexual. Because of this, everything seems to be brought down to how often you sleep with someone. Polyamorus relationships are so much more, dealing with deep, loving, caring emotions. 

 In reading the description of the show, I can see how this man's wife would feel betrayed and not trust him. If it was me, I would feel the same way. If he truly wants to explore poly and find out whether it is right for him and his wife, he needs to start at the begining, not in the middle with trust and security issues. This is a classic example of how NOT to do poly. Things done in secret are wrong, no matter what the "excuse".
Well, call me old-fashioned, but that's just too weird for me.  And in response to your comment that poly is not about sex, if it were only about caring and friendship, there would be no controversy about it.
 

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